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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it 14:15 - Jan 5 with 1278 viewschicoazul

....is not given control over borders

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/04/theresa-may-set-brexit-vision-warn-uk

Now we see. This is how it starts. It was always just about a renegotiation.

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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 14:37 - Jan 5 with 1213 viewsvapour_trail

More to the point, are you still up for offering her your single currency?

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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 14:41 - Jan 5 with 1202 viewsNo9

The corporations & party donors will tell what it will be.
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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 14:42 - Jan 5 with 1194 viewsJ2BLUE

You seem convinced something is up but don't seem sure what. Are you still sure they will announce a second referendum in January for April? Can you explain your other point about how there will soon be no such thing as debt?

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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 14:59 - Jan 5 with 1163 viewschicoazul

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 14:37 - Jan 5 by vapour_trail

More to the point, are you still up for offering her your single currency?


I'dlike to integrate my financial delivery system with her platform if you kno'wadda'mean.

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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:13 - Jan 5 with 1135 viewsNo9

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 14:59 - Jan 5 by chicoazul

I'dlike to integrate my financial delivery system with her platform if you kno'wadda'mean.


No, please expand your explanation
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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 12:15 - Jan 6 with 999 viewsJ2BLUE

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 14:42 - Jan 5 by J2BLUE

You seem convinced something is up but don't seem sure what. Are you still sure they will announce a second referendum in January for April? Can you explain your other point about how there will soon be no such thing as debt?


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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 12:26 - Jan 6 with 973 viewschicoazul

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 12:15 - Jan 6 by J2BLUE

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Oh sorry luv I missed this.
I just dont believe we will leave the EU. We have a government in both houses, corporations, institutions like the Civil Service NHS and BBC and a significant amount of the media who all want us to stay in. I am prepared to modify this opinion that we may 'leave' in sofar as we wont be a full member but a de facto one and will still pay some form of membership for single market access which will be in return for some form of border control. At our borders though, not theirs.
My point about debt is a facile one. How can it be debt if everyone owes money to everyone else?

EDIT; I think we will have a second referendum, yes. Just a hunch. They did it to Ireland.
[Post edited 6 Jan 2017 12:29]

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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 14:37 - Jan 6 with 897 viewsNo9

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 12:26 - Jan 6 by chicoazul

Oh sorry luv I missed this.
I just dont believe we will leave the EU. We have a government in both houses, corporations, institutions like the Civil Service NHS and BBC and a significant amount of the media who all want us to stay in. I am prepared to modify this opinion that we may 'leave' in sofar as we wont be a full member but a de facto one and will still pay some form of membership for single market access which will be in return for some form of border control. At our borders though, not theirs.
My point about debt is a facile one. How can it be debt if everyone owes money to everyone else?

EDIT; I think we will have a second referendum, yes. Just a hunch. They did it to Ireland.
[Post edited 6 Jan 2017 12:29]


I'm not sure I would agree with you about the BBC or any other media, the others some yes som probable.

One of the more interesting points was made by a Law Prof from one of the Uni's who specialises in UK /EU law. His stated view was that it will take many years to unravel the laws that have been put on statute since we've been in the EU. As the EU laws are in civil law and UK laws are common law he does not believe it will be an easy & far from a quick job. - quoting 15 years minimum??
So in some ways you have a point on whethe we will leave or not. Maybe when some review the potential CS cost they will shedder
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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:01 - Jan 6 with 868 viewsoldbluestu

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 14:37 - Jan 6 by No9

I'm not sure I would agree with you about the BBC or any other media, the others some yes som probable.

One of the more interesting points was made by a Law Prof from one of the Uni's who specialises in UK /EU law. His stated view was that it will take many years to unravel the laws that have been put on statute since we've been in the EU. As the EU laws are in civil law and UK laws are common law he does not believe it will be an easy & far from a quick job. - quoting 15 years minimum??
So in some ways you have a point on whethe we will leave or not. Maybe when some review the potential CS cost they will shedder


Trouble is points like 'institutions like the Civil Service NHS and BBC and a significant amount of the media who all want us to stay in' and 'a Law Prof from one of the Uni's who specialises in UK /EU law.' has nothing to do with the people who voted to leave
If we don't leave it will create a huge problem with those who voted for leave and who knows what it will result in, maybe civil war, highly unlikely.
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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:04 - Jan 6 with 863 viewsNo9

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:01 - Jan 6 by oldbluestu

Trouble is points like 'institutions like the Civil Service NHS and BBC and a significant amount of the media who all want us to stay in' and 'a Law Prof from one of the Uni's who specialises in UK /EU law.' has nothing to do with the people who voted to leave
If we don't leave it will create a huge problem with those who voted for leave and who knows what it will result in, maybe civil war, highly unlikely.


You are not watching are you?

Mrs May has no interest in what the people think she is too busy doing deals with those who will put donations in the try party coffers.

I do agree it will create mayhem in the tory party which is already very divided - civl war? maybe not civil unrest = probably
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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:18 - Jan 6 with 845 viewsWeWereZombies

Not so much a renegotiation as the softest of Brexits (leaf fall Brexit?). Here's another reason:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38528058

Cameron avoided being the Prime Minister who lost Scotland on his watch, May will not want that distinction and neither will any successor - even if it was Paul Nuttall.

The civil unrest point is an interesting one, May probably doesn't need too much of an excuse to lock up 'troublemakers' and with the loudest voices in jail how much of the Leave vote will quietly back away?

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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:21 - Jan 6 with 831 viewsGlasgowBlue

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:18 - Jan 6 by WeWereZombies

Not so much a renegotiation as the softest of Brexits (leaf fall Brexit?). Here's another reason:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38528058

Cameron avoided being the Prime Minister who lost Scotland on his watch, May will not want that distinction and neither will any successor - even if it was Paul Nuttall.

The civil unrest point is an interesting one, May probably doesn't need too much of an excuse to lock up 'troublemakers' and with the loudest voices in jail how much of the Leave vote will quietly back away?


Sturgeon isn't holding a very good hand of cards. That's why she's already backtracking.

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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:22 - Jan 6 with 830 viewsDoobDude

Oh deep joy, another thread about Brexit ...


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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:29 - Jan 6 with 815 viewsWeWereZombies

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:21 - Jan 6 by GlasgowBlue

Sturgeon isn't holding a very good hand of cards. That's why she's already backtracking.


Or waiting for the right moment to make the best of what she has, like it or not a fair degree of what happens in the future of our small, not so small, nation rests on her leadership in the next couple of years. It is healthy that Ruth Davidson is pushing her every inch of the way, even Kezia Dugdale is talking something like sense at the moment.

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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:32 - Jan 6 with 800 viewsGlasgowBlue

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:29 - Jan 6 by WeWereZombies

Or waiting for the right moment to make the best of what she has, like it or not a fair degree of what happens in the future of our small, not so small, nation rests on her leadership in the next couple of years. It is healthy that Ruth Davidson is pushing her every inch of the way, even Kezia Dugdale is talking something like sense at the moment.


There is little appetite for for independence, The Scots have seen that Armageddon didn't occur post 23 June and the Spanish have basically scuppered any of her plans to join the single market.

She is in a very week position imo.

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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:44 - Jan 6 with 773 viewsStokieBlue

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 12:26 - Jan 6 by chicoazul

Oh sorry luv I missed this.
I just dont believe we will leave the EU. We have a government in both houses, corporations, institutions like the Civil Service NHS and BBC and a significant amount of the media who all want us to stay in. I am prepared to modify this opinion that we may 'leave' in sofar as we wont be a full member but a de facto one and will still pay some form of membership for single market access which will be in return for some form of border control. At our borders though, not theirs.
My point about debt is a facile one. How can it be debt if everyone owes money to everyone else?

EDIT; I think we will have a second referendum, yes. Just a hunch. They did it to Ireland.
[Post edited 6 Jan 2017 12:29]


We will have another one after that if it's remain and the brexiters aren't happy?

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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:48 - Jan 6 with 759 viewshype313

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:44 - Jan 6 by StokieBlue

We will have another one after that if it's remain and the brexiters aren't happy?

SB


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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:50 - Jan 6 with 751 viewseireblue

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:22 - Jan 6 by DoobDude

Oh deep joy, another thread about Brexit ...



Hmmm.....now how to put this.........
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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 16:02 - Jan 6 with 727 viewsStokieBlue

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 15:32 - Jan 6 by GlasgowBlue

There is little appetite for for independence, The Scots have seen that Armageddon didn't occur post 23 June and the Spanish have basically scuppered any of her plans to join the single market.

She is in a very week position imo.


That can't be true, Darth said their were no reasons or obstructions to Scotland joining the EU. They wouldn't need to take the EUR and they would easily qualify for immediate admission.

They would be lucky to have Scotland was the most voiced opinion.

SB

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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 16:04 - Jan 6 with 719 viewsGlasgowBlue

Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 16:02 - Jan 6 by StokieBlue

That can't be true, Darth said their were no reasons or obstructions to Scotland joining the EU. They wouldn't need to take the EUR and they would easily qualify for immediate admission.

They would be lucky to have Scotland was the most voiced opinion.

SB


He's not known as Daft Kunt for nothing :-)

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Theresa May to set out 'Brexit vision' and warn UK will quit single market if it on 16:18 - Jan 6 with 686 viewsimsureazzure

Jamie Oliver is closing 6 restaurants and using Brexit as the reason, so the weak pound has not helped tourism then?

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