| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? 10:18 - Jan 20 with 1571 views | taximan |
it is obvious that selling clubs are holding itfc to ransom this month when it comes to signing a murphy type replacement.
which is fair enough
but, why wasn't a replacement already signed before news of murphys departure broke ?
was there just not time ? |  | | |  |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:21 - Jan 20 with 1555 views | artsbossbeard |
I heard from a decent source that it was around a week but fees weren't agreed at this stage and Murphy was to be told that day of their interest. |  |
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| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:24 - Jan 20 with 1535 views | taximan |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:21 - Jan 20 by artsbossbeard |
I heard from a decent source that it was around a week but fees weren't agreed at this stage and Murphy was to be told that day of their interest. |
so theoretically enough time to source a replacement and get things moving in that respect ? | | | |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:25 - Jan 20 with 1531 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
My take on it was that we were a bit naive in taking verbal agreements and positive conversations as enough of a confirmation that we would be able to get someone. i.e. Washington from QPR who were willing to sell him once they had a replacement...
Obviously that didn't happen and it could have been QPR peddling rubbish, but it was foolish and naive to expect everything to come up roses when there is a chance that we would be left in the brown |  | | |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:27 - Jan 20 with 1518 views | artsbossbeard |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:24 - Jan 20 by taximan |
so theoretically enough time to source a replacement and get things moving in that respect ? |
Yep, if the other club(s) play ball, of course. | |
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| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:29 - Jan 20 with 1503 views | vapour_trail |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:24 - Jan 20 by taximan |
so theoretically enough time to source a replacement and get things moving in that respect ? |
You should already know who you'd target should your key players leave the club and be ready to move for them to mitigate your own loss. It was appalling mis management. |  |
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| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:31 - Jan 20 with 1482 views | taximan |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:29 - Jan 20 by vapour_trail |
You should already know who you'd target should your key players leave the club and be ready to move for them to mitigate your own loss. It was appalling mis management. |
absolutely
who takes responsibility for this c0ck up, evans or mm or a bit of both ? | | | |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:33 - Jan 20 with 1467 views | vapour_trail |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:31 - Jan 20 by taximan |
absolutely
who takes responsibility for this c0ck up, evans or mm or a bit of both ? |
I don't know how these things work at the club, it differs doesn't it club to club. | |
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| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:38 - Jan 20 with 1428 views | taximan |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:33 - Jan 20 by vapour_trail |
I don't know how these things work at the club, it differs doesn't it club to club. |
if evans is responsible i can kind of understand it through his lack of experience in transfer dealings, but surelyy mm would have told him to sort out a replacement before giving the go ahead for the murphy sale.
this one bit of business has caused a lot of hassle | | | |
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| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:41 - Jan 20 with 1396 views | braveblue |
It would have meant Evans spending some money. No chance. | | | |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 12:08 - Jan 20 with 1278 views | Bent_double |
This transfer window system needs to change, at the moment, selling clubs can hold desperate buyers to ransom right uptil about 10pm on deadline day, just waiting until they get the best possible price.
I mean, do Rotherham actually want to sell Ward? They must be rubbing their hands together at the though of 3 or 4 clubs continually outbidding one another, over and above what he is really worth. Of course they will say they want £5m for him, but what if the only firm bids are in the £1-2m range, they're just stringing clubs along and could well end up saying "he's not for sale" on the 31st.
How about a date within the transfer window - say a week before it closed - when a selling club must declare which players they are willing to sell, and with a minimum price?
That way, any interested clubs know where they stand and can enter into a bidding war with other clubs or just drop out and pursue other players?
That would also give the selling club a week to get a replacement in, to they don't find themselves in this position of suddenly being without an important player on deadline day with no replacement lined up.
Just an idea... |  |
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| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 12:18 - Jan 20 with 1244 views | Guthrum |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 10:29 - Jan 20 by vapour_trail |
You should already know who you'd target should your key players leave the club and be ready to move for them to mitigate your own loss. It was appalling mis management. |
Tho if the targets' clubs then turn around and refuse to sell (at least for what you can afford), you're still stuffed. |  |
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| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 12:21 - Jan 20 with 1230 views | Guthrum |
Don't think they're so much deliberately 'holding ITFC to ransom', as recognising that the market is silly all round and are, naturally, milking it for what they can get. | |
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| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 12:53 - Jan 20 with 1171 views | Benters |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 12:21 - Jan 20 by Guthrum |
Don't think they're so much deliberately 'holding ITFC to ransom', as recognising that the market is silly all round and are, naturally, milking it for what they can get. |
But they all do it yeah ? |  |
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| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 12:58 - Jan 20 with 1144 views | vapour_trail |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 12:18 - Jan 20 by Guthrum |
Tho if the targets' clubs then turn around and refuse to sell (at least for what you can afford), you're still stuffed. |
There should be a plan a, b and c.
Perhaps there was, but I'm not convinced. | |
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| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 13:32 - Jan 20 with 1107 views | Guthrum |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 12:53 - Jan 20 by Benters |
But they all do it yeah ? |
That's what I meant. It's not specific victimisation of ITFC, so much as the environment we're in. We do it to others, too (look at how much we got for Murphy and Mings).
I sometimes wonder if that's one of the reasons most transfer fees are officially "undisclosed" nowadays, because clubs are embarrassed at how much they're having to pay out.
The transfer market nowadays is effing expensive. And, unfortunately, we don't seem to be able to keep up. | |
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| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 13:51 - Jan 20 with 1067 views | Guthrum |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 12:08 - Jan 20 by Bent_double |
This transfer window system needs to change, at the moment, selling clubs can hold desperate buyers to ransom right uptil about 10pm on deadline day, just waiting until they get the best possible price.
I mean, do Rotherham actually want to sell Ward? They must be rubbing their hands together at the though of 3 or 4 clubs continually outbidding one another, over and above what he is really worth. Of course they will say they want £5m for him, but what if the only firm bids are in the £1-2m range, they're just stringing clubs along and could well end up saying "he's not for sale" on the 31st.
How about a date within the transfer window - say a week before it closed - when a selling club must declare which players they are willing to sell, and with a minimum price?
That way, any interested clubs know where they stand and can enter into a bidding war with other clubs or just drop out and pursue other players?
That would also give the selling club a week to get a replacement in, to they don't find themselves in this position of suddenly being without an important player on deadline day with no replacement lined up.
Just an idea... |
The removal of the "Emergency" Loan Window has only served to increase the effect. | |
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| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 13:56 - Jan 20 with 1053 views | Guthrum |
| how much notice did the club get from newcastle re the murphy sale ? on 12:58 - Jan 20 by vapour_trail |
There should be a plan a, b and c.
Perhaps there was, but I'm not convinced. |
I tend to think the Williams loan was plan C or D. Which, of course, itself soon broke down. | |
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