| Question re Trump 10:23 - Jan 24 with 1843 views | Keno |
can he only serve one more term as potus or having been reelected can he serve 2? |  |
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| Question re Trump on 10:26 - Jan 24 with 1826 views | matteoblue |
On the current constitution, one |  |
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| Question re Trump on 10:31 - Jan 24 with 1784 views | Keno |
| Question re Trump on 10:26 - Jan 24 by matteoblue |
On the current constitution, one |
thats something at least | |
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| Question re Trump on 10:50 - Jan 24 with 1733 views | Mookamoo |
One more term
until he decides to change the constitution in 2027 to allow for another term based on emergency powers granted to him by the senate due to the war*
*with China over Taiwan or with New York over calling him nasty names |  | | |
| Question re Trump on 11:18 - Jan 24 with 1676 views | BlueNomad |
Once he has had his way there will only be elections with MAGA candidates. |  | | |
| Question re Trump on 11:26 - Jan 24 with 1656 views | nodge_blue |
Did you hear his speech this morning. If he wins he will half fuel costs cos it's drill baby drill. And one of his henchmen (former candidate rival) saying they will stop money to Ukraine cos it's going to Ukraine kleptocrats.
What a set of policies. |  |
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| Question re Trump on 12:08 - Jan 24 with 1575 views | Guthrum |
Dorf's reading of the 22nd Amendment is very odd. It specifically states that a person cannot be elected President more than twice. Which Trump will have been if he wins in November. So he can't run in 2028.
The circumstances relating to people who have served a partial term would only apply if somebody else was elected in 2024 with Trump as VP, he then taking over part-way through the four-year term of office. Which is not going to be the case and, anyway, is barely within the letter, let alone the spirit, of the law.
A change of the constitution is Trump's only avenue to a third term. Which he could try, but would have to absolutely dominate Congress to get it through - subject to a raft of legal challenges, too. |  |
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| Question re Trump on 12:22 - Jan 24 with 1520 views | Pendejo |
| Question re Trump on 10:50 - Jan 24 by Mookamoo |
One more term
until he decides to change the constitution in 2027 to allow for another term based on emergency powers granted to him by the senate due to the war*
*with China over Taiwan or with New York over calling him nasty names |
And he'll change it so he can nominate his successor North Korea stylee |  |
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| Question re Trump on 13:03 - Jan 24 with 1431 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Question re Trump on 11:26 - Jan 24 by nodge_blue |
Did you hear his speech this morning. If he wins he will half fuel costs cos it's drill baby drill. And one of his henchmen (former candidate rival) saying they will stop money to Ukraine cos it's going to Ukraine kleptocrats.
What a set of policies. |
And they will further erode equal rights to marriage (both on race and gender grounds) and where possible further strengthen abortion legislation.
And he boasts quite openly this is a good thing. |  | | |
| Question re Trump on 13:07 - Jan 24 with 1412 views | blueasfook |
| Question re Trump on 12:22 - Jan 24 by Pendejo |
And he'll change it so he can nominate his successor North Korea stylee |
Couldn't see him getting away with that. He'd need to get the amendment through the senate. Democrats certainly wouldn't vote for it and I would hope enough republicans would be against it too. |  |
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| Question re Trump on 13:19 - Jan 24 with 1357 views | Guthrum |
| Question re Trump on 13:03 - Jan 24 by ElderGrizzly |
And they will further erode equal rights to marriage (both on race and gender grounds) and where possible further strengthen abortion legislation.
And he boasts quite openly this is a good thing. |
If you're one of several groups of people:
Those who make money from fossil fuels
Those who admire people who make lots of money (e.g. from fossil fuels) - an important facet of US culture
Those who saw their jobs disappear and communities devastated by the move away from fossil fuels
Those who for religio-cultural reasons think only straight sexuality is right and believe women are inferior to men
Those who have been taught that abortion is the number one sin
you will think what he's saying is good. Added together, that's quite a large collection of people. Enough perhaps to swing states behind Trump and, under the blunt American system, win him the election.
Especially when coupled with economic disatisfaction, scaremongering over immigration and the portrayal of Biden as weak. | |
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| Question re Trump on 13:23 - Jan 24 with 1326 views | Blueschev |
| Question re Trump on 12:08 - Jan 24 by Guthrum |
Dorf's reading of the 22nd Amendment is very odd. It specifically states that a person cannot be elected President more than twice. Which Trump will have been if he wins in November. So he can't run in 2028.
The circumstances relating to people who have served a partial term would only apply if somebody else was elected in 2024 with Trump as VP, he then taking over part-way through the four-year term of office. Which is not going to be the case and, anyway, is barely within the letter, let alone the spirit, of the law.
A change of the constitution is Trump's only avenue to a third term. Which he could try, but would have to absolutely dominate Congress to get it through - subject to a raft of legal challenges, too. |
I didn't think it was actually written in the constitution as such? Hence FDR serving 3 terms, or part of a third term at least. Or was that something to do with the war? |  | | |
| Question re Trump on 13:35 - Jan 24 with 1288 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Question re Trump on 12:08 - Jan 24 by Guthrum |
Dorf's reading of the 22nd Amendment is very odd. It specifically states that a person cannot be elected President more than twice. Which Trump will have been if he wins in November. So he can't run in 2028.
The circumstances relating to people who have served a partial term would only apply if somebody else was elected in 2024 with Trump as VP, he then taking over part-way through the four-year term of office. Which is not going to be the case and, anyway, is barely within the letter, let alone the spirit, of the law.
A change of the constitution is Trump's only avenue to a third term. Which he could try, but would have to absolutely dominate Congress to get it through - subject to a raft of legal challenges, too. |
The US system is full of checks & balances making significant changes to the Constitution unlikely. You need support of two thirds to change the constitution and unlikely either party will achieve such a majority without the support of the other. |  |
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| Question re Trump on 13:40 - Jan 24 with 1271 views | BlueNomad |
EuropaBlue will be along soon to tell us why we are all wrong and that Trump will be a great success. | | | |
| Question re Trump on 13:43 - Jan 24 with 1241 views | Zapers |
| Question re Trump on 13:40 - Jan 24 by BlueNomad |
EuropaBlue will be along soon to tell us why we are all wrong and that Trump will be a great success. |
I'm sure we will all find out soon, when he becomes the next president of the United States. |  | | |
| Question re Trump on 13:46 - Jan 24 with 1236 views | Guthrum |
| Question re Trump on 13:23 - Jan 24 by Blueschev |
I didn't think it was actually written in the constitution as such? Hence FDR serving 3 terms, or part of a third term at least. Or was that something to do with the war? |
Was brought in as the 22nd Amendment after - and in response to - FDR's three-and-a-bit terms (winning elections in 1932, 1936,1940 and 1944). | |
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| Question re Trump on 14:17 - Jan 24 with 1184 views | Blueschev |
| Question re Trump on 13:46 - Jan 24 by Guthrum |
Was brought in as the 22nd Amendment after - and in response to - FDR's three-and-a-bit terms (winning elections in 1932, 1936,1940 and 1944). |
Ahh that's it, thanks. I don't really get the whole two term thing personally, don't strike me as particularly democratic. | | | |
| Question re Trump on 14:24 - Jan 24 with 1164 views | Mookamoo |
| Question re Trump on 14:17 - Jan 24 by Blueschev |
Ahh that's it, thanks. I don't really get the whole two term thing personally, don't strike me as particularly democratic. |
That will be Trump's argument and he'll get a lot of support to change things if he pushed for it.
He'll argue that longer terms give more stability and allows the US to look beyond every 4 years keeping up with China.
or 3 and 3/4 years in the US as they have to shut the government down in November while everyone shifts desks. | | | |
| Question re Trump on 14:28 - Jan 24 with 1154 views | blueasfook |
| Question re Trump on 13:43 - Jan 24 by Zapers |
I'm sure we will all find out soon, when he becomes the next president of the United States. |
Unless there's a strong democrat voter turn out, may well happen. He's definitely going to be the republican candidate. | |
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| Question re Trump on 14:36 - Jan 24 with 1126 views | Blueschev |
| Question re Trump on 14:24 - Jan 24 by Mookamoo |
That will be Trump's argument and he'll get a lot of support to change things if he pushed for it.
He'll argue that longer terms give more stability and allows the US to look beyond every 4 years keeping up with China.
or 3 and 3/4 years in the US as they have to shut the government down in November while everyone shifts desks. |
This would be one of the very rare occasions where he has a point. | | | |
| Question re Trump on 15:36 - Jan 24 with 1027 views | DJR |
| Question re Trump on 12:08 - Jan 24 by Guthrum |
Dorf's reading of the 22nd Amendment is very odd. It specifically states that a person cannot be elected President more than twice. Which Trump will have been if he wins in November. So he can't run in 2028.
The circumstances relating to people who have served a partial term would only apply if somebody else was elected in 2024 with Trump as VP, he then taking over part-way through the four-year term of office. Which is not going to be the case and, anyway, is barely within the letter, let alone the spirit, of the law.
A change of the constitution is Trump's only avenue to a third term. Which he could try, but would have to absolutely dominate Congress to get it through - subject to a raft of legal challenges, too. |
I agree that Dorf's reading doesn't make any sense at all.
However, as the 22nd Amendment appears to make a distinction between being elected to office of President, and assuming office during another's presidency, I suppose one interpretation of the provision is that Trump could become President a third time, if he were to win in 2024, be Vice-President in 2028 and take over the presidency soon after. Indeed, the provision could be said to have no limit on the number of times a Vice President could assume the office of President, as opposed to being elected President.
I am not convinced this was the intention, presumably because it was never contemplated, but the drafting could I suppose be tighter. [Post edited 24 Jan 16:20]
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| Question re Trump on 15:59 - Jan 24 with 964 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Question re Trump on 14:24 - Jan 24 by Mookamoo |
That will be Trump's argument and he'll get a lot of support to change things if he pushed for it.
He'll argue that longer terms give more stability and allows the US to look beyond every 4 years keeping up with China.
or 3 and 3/4 years in the US as they have to shut the government down in November while everyone shifts desks. |
Assuming he doesn't keel over and die within the next 4 years. Same for a 2nd term Biden of course too.
More focus should be on who Trump has as VP, because they may very well be President sooner than they think. At one point earlier this month there was talk of him appointing his Daughter-in-Law as VP. | | | |
| Question re Trump on 16:04 - Jan 24 with 952 views | Mookamoo |
| Question re Trump on 15:59 - Jan 24 by ElderGrizzly |
Assuming he doesn't keel over and die within the next 4 years. Same for a 2nd term Biden of course too.
More focus should be on who Trump has as VP, because they may very well be President sooner than they think. At one point earlier this month there was talk of him appointing his Daughter-in-Law as VP. |
He'll offer it to Haley in return for her endorsement.
or he might have already done that with Tim Scott | | | |
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