I was thinking this when I saw him join, I think he's a solid acquisition. He was one of the standout players for Mick at Wolves and scored a couple of goals too. Him and Stephen Ward both did quite well around that time from full back. I think its more a case of him arriving at a time when everyone's a bit fed up of our transfer policy.
Points taken, but by the same token you have to give a bit of Leigh way to players, particularly when they're younger and not as quite as developed as others. When a first team player is injured or suspended its rare the younger/fringe player will get picked by Mick.
I can only think of Emmanuel for about 2 games albeit we hardly had any defenders fit. Also Bishop who unfortunately has been out. I know its hindsight, but would we have done much worse by playing a McDonnell instead of Coke, or even instead of Douglas at times?
As for the Pompey game, Mick knew who he would play against Birmingham regardless of who played well at Pompey. Its easy for a manager to say 'chance to impress' and all of us to buy it. We need to take our fans hat off at times, some players must feel demoralised.
Well true, but you cant deny that MM doesn't exactly take risks in terms of giving a player a run of games. Most players who are fringe or young only really get a chance for about 2 games and if they do badly they don't get a chance for months on end.
I'm not saying its all MM's fault but how can you do well when only given a game or two to shine. I'd imagine if you constantly play u21 football and then just get drafted in for cup games to rest first teamers you would lack a bit of motivation. Thinking from a players perspective you'd feel a bit used.
I'm not saying this to be controversial in any way, just asking the question. But do you think with Oar leaving, other players have less of a reluctance to speak to MM about wanting to leave, and that some players are getting a bit disgruntled that they only really get picked for cup games?
Burnley didn't spend much, Brentford went very close but didn't spend much, Hulls main signing when they tried to go up was Prochwitz and he wasn't the best. What about Rhodes £12m McCormack £11m or whatever it was, Assombalonga £8m?
Teams like Southampton signed Lambert from Bristol Rovers, Adam Lallana came through the youth system, Schneiderlin played for them in League 2. Harry Arter cost £6k.
If were speaking historically then we have to mention how smart some of these clubs have been with their purchases and youth system and not just signing people for big money.
Middlesbrough spent a lot when Strachan was their and that didn't go well. Its too simplistic to say what you're saying.
Fair points but then comparing the likes of Palace and Leicester for me is unfair on them as they spent very wisely. Middlesbrough, Derby ect is a different argument as they have spent much more and are difficult to compete with on a financial level.
I wouldn't say Palace or Leicester spent the type of money to get out of the league they just spent it more efficiently than other clubs vying to go up. Palace also went up because of how good their youth system is and their ability to bring talent into their first team squad. Something we don't do particularly well.
I bet if you went down the league other clubs would have spent similarly to Palace and Leicester but bought players who didn't do well. This debate is a two sided coin, neither of us are wrong.
Its different, if you have the money to buy a Cabaye for a workmanlike side on £60k a week your generally bound to improve it.
The Championship is a different kettle of fish, you can buy a player on a small fee or free transfer and they can prove to be great assets and really improve the team. Birmingham have hardly spent anything and they're achieving good things.
This could go on all night really, Leicester spent nothing on Mahrez and Vardy but they've been outstanding whilst Liverpool have spent £32m on Benteke who cant get in the side. Sterling, Suarez and Sturridge only cost £35m between them which is hardly excessive and Southampton's net profit for incoming transfers cant be a lot.
Are Man Utd having success giving what they've spent on Di Maria, Mata ect. Not really.