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That's a shame...
at 22:46 21 Oct 2014

I think its a subconscious thing though, MM wants his wide players to comes back and defend just as much as attack, just look at the goal ratio for that. The onus is often on our wing backs to create and to find the front players as quick as possible and so when we go ahead the midfield players are unsure as to what to do.

We are not a team that can control a game via possession, nor do we really have the pace to hit teams on the counter. So Mick really has to come up with something in terms of game management, something other than throwing a centre back or defensive midfielder on at some point in the second half.
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That's a shame...
at 22:14 21 Oct 2014

I have said this before but we retreat too soon when ahead which is going to be our downfall, we start great and look to have a firm grip off the game then suddenly we go all conservative. We did at Wigan (nearly cost us).

After 30 mins against Rotherham we did the same, Forest had more chances than us second half and got two goals. Fulham got one back and things went all panicky. Mick has got be braver when we're ahead. The subs MM puts on in games reflects this.
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Music- Are there any genuinely great up and coming artists?
at 22:41 20 Oct 2014

I like his stuff, plays with a lot of passion does Ben. Check out his 'I forget where we were' and 'End of the affair' on jools. As someone else mentioned, Hozier 'take me to church' is a tune I like at the moment. Quite a cool haunted feel.
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Music- Are there any genuinely great up and coming artists?
at 21:12 20 Oct 2014

Royal Blood is a good one, its raw and different, gives you a different feel if you know what I mean. I like George Ezra, he has a good gritty voice I just hope he doesn't make stuff that pleases everyone in the future. Its almost as if no one wants to write a class song nowadays because they're afraid it will intimidate people. Avicci, I mean grr
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Music- Are there any genuinely great up and coming artists?
at 21:09 20 Oct 2014

You are good but this is not my point, I am talking on a general level not the this and that music we both listen to. I have some good music I'm listening to at the moment but even that doesn't strike me as anything that great.

It just feels like everythings a bit 'here you go, what you reckon?' as a pose to someone actually really giving you a different perspective. Dylan for example, seen as overrated but it makes you feel different.

Leonard Coehn who I was listening to, its from the heart and its sets a bar. Indie bands really hit home my point, bashing away at drums with your typical indie voice. Its boring me.

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Music- Are there any genuinely great up and coming artists?
at 19:12 20 Oct 2014

No problem man, I haven't listened yet but I'm not really a sucker for Yorke's solo stuff, I find it too sleepy. I am a big Radiohead fan and I like certain songs of Yorke's solo but I just don't feel the electronic stuff. I can pleasantly listen for a certain amount of time then it just bores the hell out of me. A shame as Yorke is one of my favourite musicians.
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Music- Are there any genuinely great up and coming artists?
at 19:07 20 Oct 2014

We do Vapour, Christina Aguilera genie in a bottle- fine, but one direction goes beyond the pale I'm afraid. Have you listened to Thom Yorke's solo album yet by the way?
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Music- Are there any genuinely great up and coming artists?
at 18:58 20 Oct 2014

Yeah good points, I think artists now do their individual thing and have their own following where as in the 80's there was a certain feel, and so if you liked one artists you probably liked quite a few others.

The way music is shared is a big thing, some are probably very popular without me even realizing such is the impact of the internet. There is just no one at the moment who I reel 10 songs of which I like.
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Music- Are there any genuinely great up and coming artists?
at 18:54 20 Oct 2014

I agree in terms of Ed Sheeran, he has a big following and is the type of guy who will continue to make acoustic based music that people will be pleased by.

Not sure about Paloma Faith and James Morrison though, I don't mind either but Paloma's new tune is the only one I could name from her. Even some of the greats who aren't my thing, I can still names some songs from because of the publicity.

Adele is another I would say but I haven't heard her in a while and the other maybe Arctic Monkeys, who have helped a lot with the indie scene over the past decade.
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Music- Are there any genuinely great up and coming artists?
at 18:33 20 Oct 2014

I don't mean that bad! I like certain music at the moment but there isn't anyone I can think of who you look at and really feel they could be greats. Alt J are about the nearest, they are the most distinctive band I can think of and have the intelligence to make consistently interesting records.
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Music- Are there any genuinely great up and coming artists?
at 18:00 20 Oct 2014

I mean I've recently listened to some older stuff from the 80's and 90's and there seems to be countless musicians that really stood out. Even though the 80's had a general feel to it they all seem individual and memorable performers. Billy Idol, David Bowie, prince amongst many others.

I saw a Kate Bush program the other day and thought how captivating it was. She may not be everyones cup of tea, but it seemed so strange and unique, the sort of thing I would jump to a store to see what her next song will be.

Then you have the Neil Youngs and Dylans, the songwriters who are generally viewed as legends in their field.

Are there any around now who has the potential to have a real stature in 20 years or so?I can't really think of anyone who carries such presence nowadays. Maybe its cause there isn't lots of music nowadays that I take to, so others may think there are plenty.
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Lee Clark's been sacked then
at 17:26 20 Oct 2014

He kind of sleep talks
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is this a new forum trend?
at 17:25 20 Oct 2014

Why not? I remember playing guess the amount of sweets in the jar, and was closest, so I won the whole jar and took it home (someone had taken the sweets though). You could do the same with attendances and the winner gets a stand in their name.
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Lee Clark's been sacked then
at 17:19 20 Oct 2014

Yeah I'm not too fond of him, does sound whingey most of the time.
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Lee Clark's been sacked then
at 15:59 20 Oct 2014

In a way I feel a bit for him in terms of this season, last season they had big earners and a decent squad with the likes of Burke and what have you and he should have done better.

This season he has really cut the budget down and so in a way where they are now is probably where you'd expect to be. Its going to be difficult for anyone to do well with that squad. Its a good league one team but a relegation battling squad at this level.

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Evans has held talks with Sheff Utd according to the BBC........ (n/t)
at 20:09 16 Oct 2014

In terms of the 'should he be given a contract debate', The reality is a football club is a football club, for me it doesn't take these type of things into account particularly deeply.

Sheff Utd want to get promoted and Ched Evans will score many goals in League 1. The club will do what's best from a footballing point of view

If its someone inside the club Is causing problems such as Di Canio at Swindon, the club go on about how its harming reputation and so let him go. As I say as long as he does well for the club, outside issues for me aren't considered by clubs in this situation.
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Are goals aesthetically better if they go in off the crossbar?
at 15:24 15 Oct 2014

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FAO itfcjoe
at 17:37 13 Oct 2014

Who's finishing is better out of Berra and Sammon? Right now the former should be in front in this respect.
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We need a good Daryl Murphy song...
at 20:53 11 Oct 2014

Queen

Don't stop him now he's having such a good time
Just give him the ball
don't stop him now, he's having such a good time
Just give him the ball
He's towns number 9, he's having a good time
Oh Daryl Murphy scores another gooooal

Big Mick has made a supersonic man outta you!
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R. Ireland 7-0 Gibraltor 55 mins in
at 18:19 11 Oct 2014

Help yourself to a couple Murph
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