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Reply | One thing this KM contract shows
at 16:15 22 May 2024
All assumptions which don't tally with the evidence.
If the clauses were that restrictive I doubt we would be seeing rumours of Brighton readying a contract.
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Reply | One thing this KM contract shows
at 16:14 22 May 2024
Yes, because that needs to be resolved and the transfer window doesn't open for 2 or 3 weeks and who we want to buy depends a lot on who the manager is.
Unless you think the manager shouldn't be in control of player recruitment?
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Reply | One thing this KM contract shows
at 16:08 22 May 2024
But that is only known after this situation is resolved, if he turns it down it's unlikely he's staying and then the recruitment is likely to be different.
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Reply | One thing this KM contract shows
at 16:07 22 May 2024
I would think they are definitely concentrating on McKenna ahead of any signings.
Retaining him would be the most important signing of the season.
Needs to be an order to these things, get that situation sorted first then move onto recruitment.
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Reply | One thing this KM contract shows
at 15:57 22 May 2024
I don't think you can draw the conclusion you have from the evidence we have at this point.
It's fairly easy to argue that to us, McKenna is more important than any player and thus it probably makes sense to try and keep him even if it's our biggest outlay. He's proven he can make players better so also that affects where we will be shopping.
Doesn't mean I don't think we will see some decent sized signings, just that the two things are fairly independent in my view and don't necessarily correlate in the way you have proposed.
Let's try and keep McKenna before worrying about any signings.
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Reply | Announcement incoming?
at 14:45 22 May 2024
Hunt has cancelled his appearance on the Peston show tonight as well now.
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Reply | Ot- About Barcelona
at 14:01 22 May 2024
Pretty sure it's closed at the moment and they have a virtual tour which is obviously pointless.
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Reply | Ireland about to put the cat among the pigeons?
at 13:02 22 May 2024
To be honest GB it feels like we are going in circles so I will reply and then you'll have your right to reply.
"My argument is that the timing is poor and it's an exercise in virtue signalling. They have had 76 years to recognise a Palestinian state. They have chosen to do so just months after Hamas raped, murdered, mutilated and decapitated innocent people. It sends out the wrong message."
As I said previously, I understand why you might view it the way you do but Isn't it possible that the ongoing conflict (now 7 months in) has focused the minds of many who may not have been looking at this previously? You see it as rewarding Hamas but we wouldn't be here 7 months and nearly 40,000 deaths later and no end in sight if Israel hadn't responded in the manner they had.
If everything has to be based on reward or punishment for actions should the international community now be looking to punish Israel for their actions? Would that also be virtue signalling? As I said, the statement (which you should read) clearly condemns the actions of Hamas.
"The time to do this is when Hamas have been wiped out and we can move on to a peaceful and permanent solution."
When is that going to be and will there be any Palestinian state left to recognise when the IDF have finished? Their statement clearly condemns Hamas so why do they need to wait to recognise some borders?
"Edit. Re your final para, what borders have they recognised?"
I've already stated exactly what they said in their statement, you're fully capable of going to look up what those borders are.
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Reply | Ireland about to put the cat among the pigeons?
at 12:21 22 May 2024
So essentially your argument is that because something wasn't recognised nearly 80 years ago it shouldn't be recognised now? If we extend that logic to other countries then the British Empire would still paint the globe in pink.
I understand why you see it as a reward for Hamas but as per my previous post, I don't think it would have happened without Israel's disproportionate response.
"And Ryory raises a valid point. By recognising a Palestinian state which is governed by Hamas they are giving legitimacy to their charter which calls for the destruction of Israel and death to all Jews. What next? Legitimise the Houthis?"
Did you read the statement? They haven't endorsed the government or legitimised any of their views, they have recognised the borders of the state. Those are two different things. We recognise the borders of countries without recognising the government in power. Their statement also makes it clear that they support the right of Israel to exist, that they condemn the attacks on the 7th and that both states need to follow international law.
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Reply | Brighton
at 12:04 22 May 2024
It's an improvement on his post from yesterday which I see is no longer with us.
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Reply | Ireland about to put the cat among the pigeons?
at 11:53 22 May 2024
I think it will make very little difference if any on the ground in Gaza, that's not really an argument for not recognising the state though in my opinion.
The IDF will keep attacking and seem ambivalent to whether the hostages are released which Hamas are unlikely to do anyway, especially whilst the IDF press attacks.
From the Irish statement [1]:
"So today, we are saying that we recognise the state of Israel and its right to exist in peace and security within internationally agreed borders.
We equally recognise the state of Palestine and its right to exist in peace and security within internationally agreed borders."
Just because something doesn't have an immediate impact that doesn't mean it's not worthwhile. Currently 142 of the 193 UN member states already recognise Palestine, recent events can make others discuss doing the same without it being virtue signalling. Ireland especially have outlined their own struggles to be recognised as an independent state in their statement.
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[1]. https://www.gov.ie/en/speech/b4c3b-recognition-of-the-state-of-palestine-remarks |
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Reply | Ireland about to put the cat among the pigeons?
at 09:18 22 May 2024
You could just as easily argue that a disproportionate response resulting in the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent civilians, the starvation of a population and the destruction of the majority of the region forces the hand of other countries.
Israel has done their part in making this happen, to say "terrorism pays" is really only looking at it from one perspective. I don't think countries would have made this decision if Israel had responded in a more measured way, you yourself have said many times it's disproportionate.
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Reply | KMc has spoken!
at 09:02 22 May 2024
I thought he didn't say anything at all.
It was a superb example of non-committal responses from McKenna.
The thing is, he shouldn't be making committal responses in that type of interview so it was exactly as one would expect and I wouldn't read anything into it.
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Reply | This board is a mess at the moment
at 08:12 22 May 2024
Given your contributions are nearly almost amongst the worst I'm not sure you should be highlighting this as your view.
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