Agreed Bedsitfc. Some people just don't like Keane. I can fully understand the fans that have a reason for disliking him (unsettled team, poor tactics etc) but some people just blindly see the manager as the point of blame. If we win tomorrow (Which I strongly feel we will) we will be 1 point of 12th place (depending on other results) It literally is just the smallest thing that needs to click and we will have a decent team.

Ultimately I think the players are more concerned about not losing the game than they area bout winning. So they sit back and try and hold onto the ball and end up giving soft goals away.

keane hasn't been the huge success story. Some instatnly took a dislike to him and didn't want him at our club, some (and fully deserved) based the reults on him however, we need to look at the bigger picture and build and it may take a few years. It didn't happen for Burley over night and look at teams like Forest and leicester- dropped like a bad penny into league 1 but they were patient, built a team and now making an assualt on promotion.

Everything will be alright :-)

brockley: fair enough except there's a basis of opinion that suggests that team stability is important. By changing so often RK has never given his team a chance to gel. The season has been poor pretty much all the way through and he's constantly looking for an answer by changing. Maybe the answer is to just leave it be for a while. Maybe he's trying to hard to manage.

After all, the only half-decent patch we've had was during a time when he didn't change things around so much. Then the loan window opened....

Yes we won, and yes scrappy 1-0s will do at this point in time. But how did it come to this? Why are we so happy with poor, scrappy wins? I'm judging RK on all season, not just on the last game and he's found very wanting.

And those likening him to Fergie and Robson. Really? OK, I could be proved wrong, but I somehow suspect that RK will never be anything the like managers those two are/were.

That's what bugs me about some posts on here. It's all "ignore what's happened so far, RK's gonna be brilliant!" If this was based on any form of logic other than "Fergie was given time by Man U" then I might take them a bit more seriously.

Are those people are also forgetting that Fergie had a full managerial history behind him at Aberdeen before coming to Man U, not just one season which may or may not have been luck.

Not so true of Robson, admittedly but he was a bit of a one-in-a-million. There's far more reason to suggest RK will fail than that he'll be anything like as good as Robson.

If I could even see what RK was trying to do with the team I may be placated. I still don't know what his favoured tactics or style of play are. I still don't know what kind of football we're meant to be playing. There's no pattern, just a lot of desperate hoofing.

And his transfer dealings scare me a lot. He needs to geta scouting network outside of Sunderland in place sharpish. After all, he sacked our proven international scout for no apparent reason - maybe he didn't fancy trips to Sunderland....

DrJekyll: sorry I'm a pessimist. If we were flirting with the play-offs I suspect I may fall into the optimist camp. I see little reason to be optimistic at the moment. Sorry if that offends you so much.

Brockley: one more thing. Both Leicester and Forest changed their managers to acheive the success you're referring to.

UNSETTLED TEAM, POOR TACTICS - That's the 2 areas of the team that the manager actually can influence!! If you basically haven't got the confidence to get those bits right, then you should change the manager. We all know we've got the owner, the squad, the money, the ground, the fans to do better - it's the bloke who puicks the team & tells them what to do who is wrong. There's so much more he gets wrong that it is too boring 7 numerous to go into yet again. Put a grown up in charge of Ipswich & we will climb the table & improve. We have made absolutely NO progress in his 10 months.

in keane i trust untill his contract has run its 2 years. then if marcus changes the manager (i dont think he will) i will back them as the leader of my club. i dont want my club to be changing manager every other month. both leicester and forest changed their managers to acheive success is correct but how many managers have they had in the last 3 years, i dont want town kissing frogs

. . . . & for every Sir Bobby who was a find in a million 40 years ago, I will show you 100 Tony Adams, Alan Shearers, David Platts, etc etc

bedsitfc: you don't want town kissing frogs. Fair enough. Do you not think that maybe we've already done that? And you think Evans will keep Keane on beyond his contract? If next season is anything like this then there's no chance of that, surely (please God no).

Obviously, if he survives this year and next improves then fair enough.

Admittedly, calling for a manager so soon into his reign is unprecedented for ITFC, but then so is Keane's performance as a manager. Duncan managed better (8th place), and Jackie Milburn took over an aging team who could only go in one direction. And he certainly wasn't given a wodge of cash to improve the team as Keane has. So I guess that's why fans are getting antsy so soon. Also, because a drop to League 1 could spell disaster beyond a simple relegation.

naa - if next season is anything like this season then keane will be gone before xmas.
keane was put into the hot seat as Evens is looking for premier football before he sells the club on and he see's roy as the man to change the face of itfc.

He's changed the face of ITFC alright! Gribbit. Buy Priskin & Martin Gribbit, drop half the squad gribbit stay in bottom 6 all season gribbit, win just 7 league games gribbit, end up in Div 1 . . . croak!

naa totally agree with you - if it ain't broke don't fix it. I always think you should stick with a winning team (Why he changed it after the qpr game I don't know) but it seems he is trying too hard, making changes for changes sake. Consistancy in the team repliactes on the pitch. Its like in everyones job, who work better with th familar faces as you get an understanding of their traits etc.

I know a lot of people disagree with me a lot and I am in that faction fo fans that has to remain positive or I'll cry ;-)

Took the words out of my mouth byebyesheepshanks!
Look at the hundreds of managers that have been and the only two that are constantly repeated (and in Fergies case large amounts of cash was a big help).
Must remember that quote by bedsit ' i know if Keane is here next season we will go up'- lol! Hope to be proved wrong bedsitfc and like your optimism but would happily make a wager with the bookies that Town will not be promoted under RK next year. Nobody wants to see the Manager changed every month (Petta aside) but the facts are that it has not been a season of improvement with all that money spent going by the results, position in the league and the performances on the pitch!
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Keane Delighted With Murphy and O'Connor! So was I, bloody marvelous