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Reply | 2019 Tory MP defects to Labour
at 23:15 19 Jan 2022
Even Churchill did it. Twice.
Edit. Apologies to our more sensitive readers for this historical tidbit. [Post edited 19 Jan 23:15]
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Reply | As he's hopefully now on his way out, it's time...
at 18:41 19 Jan 2022
I'd been off the discussion for several hours before seeing footers accusing me of poking and baiting you. He's a clever boy and knew how this would develop.
I wouldn't have even bothered coming back to the thread of not for that. I've no wish for another groundhog day. |
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Reply | As he's hopefully now on his way out, it's time..
at 18:12 19 Jan 2022
"Even today you had to mention that Mosley was the first Tory to defect to Labour - wonder why you needed to include that historical tidbit".
er...Because it was a historical tidbit. Steve M and I were discussing the latest Tory to Labour defection and were trying to remember the last bloke. I looked it up and the same article noted that Mosley was the first. I' a bit of a political anorak and I find these things interesting.Sorry if Mosley's defection embarrases you.
'It's pretty obvious when you attempt to poke and bait him, knowing he'll respond'.
No. I pull him up when he defends, repeats or agrees with antisemitic tropes. He was doing it just a couple of days ago regarding Starmer being 'completely controlled by the Israel lobby.
Perhaps you have a lower tolerance threshold for certain types of racism. Because I'm pretty sure you were part of a three pronged daily, sometimes multiple times a day, campaign of baiting and poking a certain poster who had shamefully defended racism and homophobia. This to the extent that all three of you took a long break from the board, which resulted in a period of relative harmony on the board. Rather hypocritical imo dear boy. You've never once pulled Koonters for his views, despite a number of left ewing posters doing so.
Anyway. We've both had our say. I shall continue to engage with you in a civil and polite manner, whether this is reciprocated or not |
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Reply | As he's hopefully now on his way out, it's time..
at 17:18 19 Jan 2022
Not sure why you are starting all of this nonsense again footers. Maybe you just can't help yourself.
Yesterday you basically accused me of being a liar when I said I no longer vote Tory and can't see myself voting for them anytime soon.
I thought we had agreed a couple of months ago to agree to disagree and attempt to be civil with each other. I'm not aware that I have done anything to deviate from that agreement. Not sure why you have decided to do so. |
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Reply | David Davis just called for him to resign in the Commons
at 13:30 19 Jan 2022
The poll lead shows that this line of attack is bearing fruit.
Why give him a question that he can actually answer and turn onto the opposition? He could say that the government did what it could to get urgently needed PPE to frontline workers, whereas Captain Hindsight would still be waiting on the delivery two years later by going through the correct channels*.
Johnson has nowhere to go with partygate, so keep kicking him when he's down.
I appreciate you want substance and policies, and aren't a fan of party political games. But what Starmer is doing is working.
*The sort of line Johnson would go down. Not my own thoughts on the matter. |
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Reply | 2019 Tory MP defects to Labour
at 11:59 19 Jan 2022
Woodward. That's the fella I was thinking of. Alan Howarth was the other. Although he moved seat.
Oswald Mosley was the first Tory to defect to Labour. [Post edited 19 Jan 12:02]
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Reply | 2019 Tory MP defects to Labour
at 11:54 19 Jan 2022
That's what normally happens. There were a couple who went under Blair.
One, whose name escapes me, became a New Labour Minister. |
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Reply | 2019 Tory MP defects to Labour
at 11:52 19 Jan 2022
Not really. It's an act of self preservation.
The seat would have most likely reverted back to Labour at the next election. He'll nowe be the Labour candidate in 2024. |
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