| What does he say here that you disagree with on 11:46 - Jan 16 with 1998 views | dryas |
The bits close to being in English mostly. |  | |  |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 11:49 - Jan 16 with 1982 views | GeoffSentence |
I dunno about agreeing or diagreeing, but I can say that Michael Gove needs to get an image specialist involved before he lets a cameraman within a hundred yards. |  |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 11:54 - Jan 16 with 1972 views | Guthrum |
The bits where he makes broad, sweeping statements while providing no detail whatsoever on how things will work in practice.
'It's going to be tremendous' - what does he mean by "tremendous", for whom and how actually does he plan to achieve this outcome? Is there going to be the usual gap between promises and outcomes? |  |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 11:58 - Jan 16 with 1938 views | monytowbray |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 11:54 - Jan 16 by Guthrum |
The bits where he makes broad, sweeping statements while providing no detail whatsoever on how things will work in practice.
'It's going to be tremendous' - what does he mean by "tremendous", for whom and how actually does he plan to achieve this outcome? Is there going to be the usual gap between promises and outcomes? |
I remember one moment where a young voter the day before the referendum on TV said to Boris "I am voting remain because you seem to have no plan in place as to what's next, let alone know what might happen." His response was "No it's going to be tremendous".
Politics 2k16. Ergh. |  |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 13:50 - Jan 16 with 1839 views | WoodsFriesRice |
Nothing. It's all great, just great. We are all just great. |  |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 13:58 - Jan 16 with 1828 views | BergholtBru |
Nothing. Talks a lot of good sense as far as I am concerned. |  |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:04 - Jan 16 with 1803 views | GlasgowBlue |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 13:58 - Jan 16 by BergholtBru |
Nothing. Talks a lot of good sense as far as I am concerned. |
He's certainly straight talking. In a short interview we know more about his views on Brexit, Theresa May, Nato, Russia, Syria, Iran, Angela Merkel, freedom of movement.
Contrast that with Theresa May and it's difficult to get her opinion on whether she takes sugar with her tea, let alone such a wide range of important issues. |  |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:08 - Jan 16 with 1792 views | J2BLUE |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 11:58 - Jan 16 by monytowbray |
I remember one moment where a young voter the day before the referendum on TV said to Boris "I am voting remain because you seem to have no plan in place as to what's next, let alone know what might happen." His response was "No it's going to be tremendous".
Politics 2k16. Ergh. |
You are just as bad as the people you criticise. You see things from one side and refuse to look at it from any other angle. What did the remain camp say? Lets vote remain and reform from within. Something we know wasn't possible and something the EU showed no appetite for.
Ignore that though because they're on your side so it doesn't count. |  |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:16 - Jan 16 with 1747 views | GlasgowBlue |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:08 - Jan 16 by J2BLUE |
You are just as bad as the people you criticise. You see things from one side and refuse to look at it from any other angle. What did the remain camp say? Lets vote remain and reform from within. Something we know wasn't possible and something the EU showed no appetite for.
Ignore that though because they're on your side so it doesn't count. |
A few years ago when Ed Milband was threatening a mansion tax and bankers bonuss taxes, it was pointed out that these financial institutions and wealth creators would leave the country taking their jobs and taxes with them.
"Fcuk 'em" was the general feeling from the usual suspects on here. The Factual Blue's. The Cotty's. The Dryas'. "We don't need them".
These same people are now the ones crying how the financial institutions and wealth creators will leave the country taking their jobs and taxes with them because of Brexit.
They make it up as they go along. | |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:16 - Jan 16 with 1746 views | BlueBadger |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:08 - Jan 16 by J2BLUE |
You are just as bad as the people you criticise. You see things from one side and refuse to look at it from any other angle. What did the remain camp say? Lets vote remain and reform from within. Something we know wasn't possible and something the EU showed no appetite for.
Ignore that though because they're on your side so it doesn't count. |
David Cameron repeatedly said he would push for a reformed EU in the wake of a 'remain' vote. Perhaps he should have written on the side of a bus. [Post edited 16 Jan 2017 14:17]
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:18 - Jan 16 with 1747 views | BlueBadger |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:16 - Jan 16 by GlasgowBlue |
A few years ago when Ed Milband was threatening a mansion tax and bankers bonuss taxes, it was pointed out that these financial institutions and wealth creators would leave the country taking their jobs and taxes with them.
"Fcuk 'em" was the general feeling from the usual suspects on here. The Factual Blue's. The Cotty's. The Dryas'. "We don't need them".
These same people are now the ones crying how the financial institutions and wealth creators will leave the country taking their jobs and taxes with them because of Brexit.
They make it up as they go along. |
Brilliantly enough, the Brexiteers are now engineering a situation whereby they both don't pay those taxes AND leave. [Post edited 22 Jan 2017 18:40]
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:20 - Jan 16 with 1736 views | J2BLUE |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:16 - Jan 16 by BlueBadger |
David Cameron repeatedly said he would push for a reformed EU in the wake of a 'remain' vote. Perhaps he should have written on the side of a bus. [Post edited 16 Jan 2017 14:17]
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That's fact because he said it then? You know fully well he wouldn't have got anywhere but that's ok because he was a on your side.
Oh and debate with me without the little shots as if i'm some sort of idiot or just don't reply to me. | |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:23 - Jan 16 with 1725 views | BlueBadger |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:20 - Jan 16 by J2BLUE |
That's fact because he said it then? You know fully well he wouldn't have got anywhere but that's ok because he was a on your side.
Oh and debate with me without the little shots as if i'm some sort of idiot or just don't reply to me. |
There was no appetite for further Scottish devolution until after the 2014 referendum vote.
A likely close win for remain would probably have seen the Eu's position shift, I suspect.
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:25 - Jan 16 with 1703 views | J2BLUE |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:23 - Jan 16 by BlueBadger |
There was no appetite for further Scottish devolution until after the 2014 referendum vote.
A likely close win for remain would probably have seen the Eu's position shift, I suspect.
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That was promised before the vote. The EU gave us the minimum before the vote because they thought it was a done deal that we'd stay. To actually suggest they'd have changed in any real way is wishful thinking. | |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:25 - Jan 16 with 1703 views | sparks |
What do I disagree with? Where does one start?
I disagree with the following:
That Nato is “obsolete” or that it is sensible for a president elect to say such a thing.
That Merkel made a “catastrophic mistake” helping refugees.
That there is any logic or reason behind the complaint about german cars, given that BMW and Mercedes are clearly more desirable to most Europeans than Chevrolets, and better in most ways.
That it is remotely appropriate to talk about trust of Merkel and Putin in the same breath.
That it is sensible to trust Putin.
That it is appropriate to even talk about reneging on a deal with Iran, given that it would simply demonstrate that the West cannot be trusted and don’t keep to their own claimed standards of keeping their words and being fair.
That the US could and should have drawn a “line in the sand” in Syria. Or that this is consistent with anything else he says on that subject, or on relations with Russia.
That we didn’t let people do what they were tasked to do in Afghanistan
That it is appropriate to appoint a brother in law as a peace envoy of some sort in the most difficult part of the world.
That the man in question has any chance of securing an “Israel deal”.
That Obama’s decision to abstain on the votes by the UN to prevent Israel from continuing to expand its territory at the expense of Palestinians was “terrible”.
His comments on Jewish friends which appear to make the erroneous assumption that anyone Jewish ought to support Israel’s settlement policy.
That he might continue using Twitter as president
That he is covered dishonestly by the press. |  |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:27 - Jan 16 with 1672 views | BlueBadger |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:25 - Jan 16 by J2BLUE |
That was promised before the vote. The EU gave us the minimum before the vote because they thought it was a done deal that we'd stay. To actually suggest they'd have changed in any real way is wishful thinking. |
A failure to act would have likely seen opinion start to shift across the rest of the continent, much as it may very well have done in Scotland. | |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:29 - Jan 16 with 1656 views | J2BLUE |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:27 - Jan 16 by BlueBadger |
A failure to act would have likely seen opinion start to shift across the rest of the continent, much as it may very well have done in Scotland. |
This is fun. Say whatever you like about Brexit but just make up stuff which flies in the face of all evidence to support your position.
It's like arguing with a religious person. | |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:31 - Jan 16 with 1636 views | BlueBadger |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:29 - Jan 16 by J2BLUE |
This is fun. Say whatever you like about Brexit but just make up stuff which flies in the face of all evidence to support your position.
It's like arguing with a religious person. |
Be fair, your lot got to do that all through the campaign. | |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:35 - Jan 16 with 1629 views | J2BLUE |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:31 - Jan 16 by BlueBadger |
Be fair, your lot got to do that all through the campaign. |
Yes some did. There were some classics from Gove and Farage's claim he never supported the bus was clearly BS. I am happy to admit it was a terrible campaign based mostly on BS from both sides. | |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:40 - Jan 16 with 1607 views | chicoazul |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:25 - Jan 16 by sparks |
What do I disagree with? Where does one start?
I disagree with the following:
That Nato is “obsolete” or that it is sensible for a president elect to say such a thing.
That Merkel made a “catastrophic mistake” helping refugees.
That there is any logic or reason behind the complaint about german cars, given that BMW and Mercedes are clearly more desirable to most Europeans than Chevrolets, and better in most ways.
That it is remotely appropriate to talk about trust of Merkel and Putin in the same breath.
That it is sensible to trust Putin.
That it is appropriate to even talk about reneging on a deal with Iran, given that it would simply demonstrate that the West cannot be trusted and don’t keep to their own claimed standards of keeping their words and being fair.
That the US could and should have drawn a “line in the sand” in Syria. Or that this is consistent with anything else he says on that subject, or on relations with Russia.
That we didn’t let people do what they were tasked to do in Afghanistan
That it is appropriate to appoint a brother in law as a peace envoy of some sort in the most difficult part of the world.
That the man in question has any chance of securing an “Israel deal”.
That Obama’s decision to abstain on the votes by the UN to prevent Israel from continuing to expand its territory at the expense of Palestinians was “terrible”.
His comments on Jewish friends which appear to make the erroneous assumption that anyone Jewish ought to support Israel’s settlement policy.
That he might continue using Twitter as president
That he is covered dishonestly by the press. |
Thanks.
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:49 - Jan 16 with 1583 views | BlueBadger |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:04 - Jan 16 by GlasgowBlue |
He's certainly straight talking. In a short interview we know more about his views on Brexit, Theresa May, Nato, Russia, Syria, Iran, Angela Merkel, freedom of movement.
Contrast that with Theresa May and it's difficult to get her opinion on whether she takes sugar with her tea, let alone such a wide range of important issues. |
'"Afghanistan is, is not going well. Nothing’s going well – I guess we’ve been in Afghanistan almost 17 years – but you look at all of the places, now in all fairness, we haven’t let our people do what they’re supposed to do. You know we have great military, we’re gonna have much greater military because we’re gonna have – you know right now it’s very depleted, we’re gonna have great military, but we haven’t let our military win.
Boeing and Lockheed Martin are you know big contractors for this country and we have an F-35 program that has been very, very severely over budget and behind schedule. Hundreds of billions of dollars over budget and seven years behind schedule. And, uh, they got to shape up.'
Well, that's certainly cleared everything up there. | |
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 16:48 - Jan 16 with 1490 views | eireblue |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:40 - Jan 16 by chicoazul |
Thanks.
See everyone? That's how you reply. |
Definitely a good starting point. |  | | |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 17:04 - Jan 16 with 1456 views | BlueLikeJazz |
If I could be bothered making sense of ramblings that read like the work of a not particularly coherent or politically aware 12 year old, I might be able to tell you.
Handily, sparks has saved me he the trouble. [Post edited 16 Jan 2017 17:05]
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| What does he say here that you disagree with on 17:08 - Jan 16 with 1431 views | eireblue |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 14:49 - Jan 16 by BlueBadger |
'"Afghanistan is, is not going well. Nothing’s going well – I guess we’ve been in Afghanistan almost 17 years – but you look at all of the places, now in all fairness, we haven’t let our people do what they’re supposed to do. You know we have great military, we’re gonna have much greater military because we’re gonna have – you know right now it’s very depleted, we’re gonna have great military, but we haven’t let our military win.
Boeing and Lockheed Martin are you know big contractors for this country and we have an F-35 program that has been very, very severely over budget and behind schedule. Hundreds of billions of dollars over budget and seven years behind schedule. And, uh, they got to shape up.'
Well, that's certainly cleared everything up there. |
Maybe he is suggesting they import lots of cheap plentiful labour from Afghanistan to help in Lockheed factories? | | | |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 17:16 - Jan 16 with 1399 views | BorisOrTrevor |
| What does he say here that you disagree with on 11:54 - Jan 16 by Guthrum |
The bits where he makes broad, sweeping statements while providing no detail whatsoever on how things will work in practice.
'It's going to be tremendous' - what does he mean by "tremendous", for whom and how actually does he plan to achieve this outcome? Is there going to be the usual gap between promises and outcomes? |
Hi Guthrum.
Leaders provide broad sweeping statements. Detail is left to the followers/managers to sort. I do not want to hear minor details yet, I want a vision. A tone.
And he provides that in bucket loads. |  |
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