| We have had a few threads about depression, anxiety and panic attacks, careful.. on 18:30 - May 9 with 1208 views | blue_oyster |
| We have had a few threads about depression, anxiety and panic attacks, careful.. on 15:45 - May 9 by Swailsey |
I'm sorry?
Most "anti-depression" medications are mood stabilizers, which (when used in conjunction with effective therapy) allow the patient to be more receptive, calm and in a mindset where they can absorb information.
No medication claims to "cure" depression or mental illness and I don't think anyone actually thinks that it does? |
They may well 'work'. They may also have nasty side effects which make the 'patient' suicidal. But drugs shouldn't be prescribed unless they know what they are prescribing for, under strict medical tests which prove they work, and not guess. |  |
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| We have had a few threads about depression, anxiety and panic attacks, careful.. on 19:11 - May 9 with 1185 views | Radlett_blue |
| We have had a few threads about depression, anxiety and panic attacks, careful.. on 18:30 - May 9 by blue_oyster |
They may well 'work'. They may also have nasty side effects which make the 'patient' suicidal. But drugs shouldn't be prescribed unless they know what they are prescribing for, under strict medical tests which prove they work, and not guess. |
So are you suggesting that drugs should NOT be prescribed for mental health issues?
I realise that there is a hit & miss element as mental issues are near impossible to analyse in a foolproof manner, but it seems that your conclusion is that they should not be used.
Given the number of people whose lives have been made immeasurably better by these sort of drugs, that seems a highly irrational stance. |  |
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| We have had a few threads about depression, anxiety and panic attacks, careful.. on 20:44 - May 9 with 1152 views | Swailsey |
| We have had a few threads about depression, anxiety and panic attacks, careful.. on 18:30 - May 9 by blue_oyster |
They may well 'work'. They may also have nasty side effects which make the 'patient' suicidal. But drugs shouldn't be prescribed unless they know what they are prescribing for, under strict medical tests which prove they work, and not guess. |
Where have I said any different to that?
I have said drugs are prescribed too fast and incorrectly on some occasions - too often.
Are you saying that if someone has been clinically diagnosed with a mental illness, that they shouldn't take the dedicated medication for that illness? |  |
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| We have had a few threads about depression, anxiety and panic attacks, careful.. on 21:54 - May 9 with 1123 views | blue_oyster |
| We have had a few threads about depression, anxiety and panic attacks, careful.. on 19:11 - May 9 by Radlett_blue |
So are you suggesting that drugs should NOT be prescribed for mental health issues?
I realise that there is a hit & miss element as mental issues are near impossible to analyse in a foolproof manner, but it seems that your conclusion is that they should not be used.
Given the number of people whose lives have been made immeasurably better by these sort of drugs, that seems a highly irrational stance. |
No, I'm saying there is doubt, and it's not 'without doubt'. | |
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| We have had a few threads about depression, anxiety and panic attacks, careful.. on 07:31 - May 10 with 1076 views | TLA |
Some of the debate here is very valid but, above all, I would respect the opinions of people with their own experiences of using medication or not.
There are, of course, no simple tests and measures for mental health conditions and often a diagnosis depends on a clear articulation at a time when that is least possible. It leads to more trial and error than with other health conditions.
There are clear diagnostic guidelines though - DSM 5 and ICD 10 are currently used to make the most accurate diagnoses of mental disorders. There is also research into brain scans, which are starting to indicate various changes in the brain activity of people with certain conditions. It's all in it's infancy though. Maybe if the research get similar levels of funding to other diseases, this will be accelerated.
So much more has become known about health conditions and, as a few people have pointed out, science doesn't prove things, it just keeps testing what we know.
Medications don't get clinical approval without rigorous testing but there is certainly space for debate. [Post edited 10 May 2017 8:42]
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