| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:31 - Aug 2 with 4920 views | Kieran_Knows |
Madness, it really is ... and to go play in Ligue 1 as well? He'll obviously become the 'poster boy' and main man at PSG, but still, not exactly the best league in the world.
Games gone, to be fair, it was gone 3-4 years ago, but it well and truly is gone now.
Thing is, I can still see a Man City or PSG put together an even bigger deal for someone like Messi. [Post edited 2 Aug 2017 10:32]
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:31 - Aug 2 with 4911 views | StokieBlue |
It's even less than 2%. Quite a lot less.
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:39 - Aug 2 with 4875 views | NeverTellMeTheOdds |
The bubble has to burst as some point surely, fees and wages like this are not sustainable long term I wouldn't have thought.
Its ridiculous and one of the reasons I am falling out of love with football. In a way I am grateful that ITFC aren't involved in the circus but we will get left behind very quickly now with the current market as it stands. |  |
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:49 - Aug 2 with 4811 views | No9 |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:39 - Aug 2 by NeverTellMeTheOdds |
The bubble has to burst as some point surely, fees and wages like this are not sustainable long term I wouldn't have thought.
Its ridiculous and one of the reasons I am falling out of love with football. In a way I am grateful that ITFC aren't involved in the circus but we will get left behind very quickly now with the current market as it stands. |
It will last as long as there are enough crooks out there who need to launder their I'll gotten gains. |  | | |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:51 - Aug 2 with 4799 views | King_of_Portman_Rd |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:31 - Aug 2 by Kieran_Knows |
Madness, it really is ... and to go play in Ligue 1 as well? He'll obviously become the 'poster boy' and main man at PSG, but still, not exactly the best league in the world.
Games gone, to be fair, it was gone 3-4 years ago, but it well and truly is gone now.
Thing is, I can still see a Man City or PSG put together an even bigger deal for someone like Messi. [Post edited 2 Aug 2017 10:32]
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I can kind of get the 'Poster boy' and 'Big Dog' argument as to be considered a true great he has to win the Ballon Dor, which he won't whilst playing 2nd fiddle to Messi and he has the likes of Rivaldo, Kaka, Ronaldinho and Ronaldo as Brazillian winners in our lifetime.
Though if he does go to PSG then surely they won't be able to add anyone else for another couple of years.. possibly selling someone. The rumour was Draxler as part of the deal. If that is the case then he'll never win the Champions league with PSG and he won't be rated on how many domestic titles he wins it will be European and World titles and he will be dramatically reducing his chances for European titles if he leaves |  | | |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:53 - Aug 2 with 4782 views | LankHenners |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:31 - Aug 2 by Kieran_Knows |
Madness, it really is ... and to go play in Ligue 1 as well? He'll obviously become the 'poster boy' and main man at PSG, but still, not exactly the best league in the world.
Games gone, to be fair, it was gone 3-4 years ago, but it well and truly is gone now.
Thing is, I can still see a Man City or PSG put together an even bigger deal for someone like Messi. [Post edited 2 Aug 2017 10:32]
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It's all about the money. Think I read somewhere that he was holding out on the transfer so his dad could receive a £20 million loyalty bonus.
However, pretty sure the culture in Brazil, when it comes to football, is that you should always go where the money takes you - a lot of footballers come from poor backgrounds and so want to earn as much as they can to take them and their family away from poverty, which is a real issue in Brazil. |  |
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:54 - Aug 2 with 4762 views | davblue |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:51 - Aug 2 by King_of_Portman_Rd |
I can kind of get the 'Poster boy' and 'Big Dog' argument as to be considered a true great he has to win the Ballon Dor, which he won't whilst playing 2nd fiddle to Messi and he has the likes of Rivaldo, Kaka, Ronaldinho and Ronaldo as Brazillian winners in our lifetime.
Though if he does go to PSG then surely they won't be able to add anyone else for another couple of years.. possibly selling someone. The rumour was Draxler as part of the deal. If that is the case then he'll never win the Champions league with PSG and he won't be rated on how many domestic titles he wins it will be European and World titles and he will be dramatically reducing his chances for European titles if he leaves |
The whole family seem to be money grabbers, his dad has made an extraordinary amount of money from Him and Barca in the last few years.
Im not convinced Neymar will play all that long as his sole focus seems to be money, merchandise, he was in a film this year, i think his focus isn't totally on football. |  | | |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:56 - Aug 2 with 4746 views | Coastalblue |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:39 - Aug 2 by NeverTellMeTheOdds |
The bubble has to burst as some point surely, fees and wages like this are not sustainable long term I wouldn't have thought.
Its ridiculous and one of the reasons I am falling out of love with football. In a way I am grateful that ITFC aren't involved in the circus but we will get left behind very quickly now with the current market as it stands. |
I've been hopefully waiting for the bubble to burst for about the last fifteen years, I dislike football being something everybody has an opinion on these days and despise the financial aspects.
Reality is, I'm not sure it will now, not for a very long time. |  |
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 11:09 - Aug 2 with 4635 views | brazil1982 |
Based on seeing him play live once (lolz I know) he's not a great player at all. Dreadfully lazy.
This value simply reflects his market image. | | | |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 11:13 - Aug 2 with 4612 views | wkj |
I am skeptical this would go through, simply because they would have to be paying him a ridiculous wage to entice him given how hefty the french tax is on high earners (if only we were so bold) |  |
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 11:19 - Aug 2 with 4562 views | Superfrans |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:31 - Aug 2 by StokieBlue |
It's even less than 2%. Quite a lot less.
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2% is just under £4m.
Our transfer budget would be very close to this. It may even be more.
Remember that we've spent just under a million on Garner (haven't we?), have been talking about making bids of £1-£2m recently and there will have been signing fees for Celina, Adeyemi, Iorfa, Spence and Huws - and that's only this summer. |  |
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 11:21 - Aug 2 with 4550 views | StokieBlue |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 11:19 - Aug 2 by Superfrans |
2% is just under £4m.
Our transfer budget would be very close to this. It may even be more.
Remember that we've spent just under a million on Garner (haven't we?), have been talking about making bids of £1-£2m recently and there will have been signing fees for Celina, Adeyemi, Iorfa, Spence and Huws - and that's only this summer. |
You think our transfer budget is 4m?
Don't the accounts published from the last few years clearly show this to be untrue? You might be right though.
That 198m is just the getout clause fee. It won't include signing on fees etc.
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 11:24 - Aug 2 with 4529 views | Superfrans |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:31 - Aug 2 by Kieran_Knows |
Madness, it really is ... and to go play in Ligue 1 as well? He'll obviously become the 'poster boy' and main man at PSG, but still, not exactly the best league in the world.
Games gone, to be fair, it was gone 3-4 years ago, but it well and truly is gone now.
Thing is, I can still see a Man City or PSG put together an even bigger deal for someone like Messi. [Post edited 2 Aug 2017 10:32]
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It has so many knock on effects.
It inflates prices of other players, but putting such a vast additional sum into the overall cash pool - Barcelona will have to pay over the odds for their next signings, so will the clubs who are overpaid for the players that they buy etc etc.
The general value of players will inflate too. Other players (and their clubs) will be fancied as "almost as good" as Neymar and be demanding more cash.
And to the overall talent pool too - it illustrates how big clubs are able to afford to hoover up swathes of young talent, park them in their reserves or send them out on loan. It all prevents us from being able to own all of our own players in the way we used to. | |
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 11:25 - Aug 2 with 4521 views | Superfrans |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 11:21 - Aug 2 by StokieBlue |
You think our transfer budget is 4m?
Don't the accounts published from the last few years clearly show this to be untrue? You might be right though.
That 198m is just the getout clause fee. It won't include signing on fees etc.
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I'm talking about this year. We have been spending much more than in recent years. That's clear to see.
This year it might very well be £4m, possibly more by the end of this month. | |
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 12:24 - Aug 2 with 4396 views | Blue_Order |
19,800 Kieffers. |  | | |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 12:26 - Aug 2 with 4388 views | Kieran_Knows |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 12:24 - Aug 2 by Blue_Order |
19,800 Kieffers. |
I know who i'd rather have .... | |
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 12:28 - Aug 2 with 4373 views | wkj |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 12:26 - Aug 2 by Kieran_Knows |
I know who i'd rather have .... |
Me too! with 19,800 Keifers in the stands we would be close to capacity! | |
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 12:58 - Aug 2 with 4264 views | maximoalex |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 11:13 - Aug 2 by wkj |
I am skeptical this would go through, simply because they would have to be paying him a ridiculous wage to entice him given how hefty the french tax is on high earners (if only we were so bold) |
Supposedly they have offered him £650,000 a week. Tax free. |  | | |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 13:01 - Aug 2 with 4235 views | ITFCson |
It's all about supply and demand. If Psg can afford him at 198M then why not. He cost about 250 times more than Joe Garner so the question is does he bring 250 times more value to PSG then garner does to us, and the answer is probably yes. | | | |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 13:03 - Aug 2 with 4217 views | wkj |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 12:58 - Aug 2 by maximoalex |
Supposedly they have offered him £650,000 a week. Tax free. |
that is indeed more worrying than the transfer fee itself, so if he is on 650k take home, his gross could be close to 1m [Post edited 2 Aug 2017 13:04]
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 13:04 - Aug 2 with 4208 views | wkj |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 13:01 - Aug 2 by ITFCson |
It's all about supply and demand. If Psg can afford him at 198M then why not. He cost about 250 times more than Joe Garner so the question is does he bring 250 times more value to PSG then garner does to us, and the answer is probably yes. |
What would you say the supply is, and the demand is in this scenario? You kind of lost me there | |
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 13:06 - Aug 2 with 4189 views | Superfrans |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 13:01 - Aug 2 by ITFCson |
It's all about supply and demand. If Psg can afford him at 198M then why not. He cost about 250 times more than Joe Garner so the question is does he bring 250 times more value to PSG then garner does to us, and the answer is probably yes. |
To a degree.
But it raises the wider question about whether football should be ruled by market forces.
There is a logical argument that the biggest clubs are most marketable, therefore should take all the media income from (for instance) broadcasts of their matches. But they wouldn't hold those positions without the rest of the football pyramid and the cultural position that football holds - which is about more than just the handful of clubs at the top. It's a delicately balanced eco-system, in which those at the top need to understand their debt to those at the bottom - and that applies both to footballers and football clubs.
Personally, I'll be happy when they all sod off to the pan-European/global super league and leave the rest of us to play football in a sustainable fashion. | |
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 13:11 - Aug 2 with 4166 views | wkj |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 13:06 - Aug 2 by Superfrans |
To a degree.
But it raises the wider question about whether football should be ruled by market forces.
There is a logical argument that the biggest clubs are most marketable, therefore should take all the media income from (for instance) broadcasts of their matches. But they wouldn't hold those positions without the rest of the football pyramid and the cultural position that football holds - which is about more than just the handful of clubs at the top. It's a delicately balanced eco-system, in which those at the top need to understand their debt to those at the bottom - and that applies both to footballers and football clubs.
Personally, I'll be happy when they all sod off to the pan-European/global super league and leave the rest of us to play football in a sustainable fashion. |
I think the Champions league needs to be an actual league too - Let the elite clubs play together, and give domestic club football a chance to recover. How would clubs get into the champions league? I wouldnt even be against the league being closed to new teams joining it | |
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| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 13:15 - Aug 2 with 4127 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 10:39 - Aug 2 by NeverTellMeTheOdds |
The bubble has to burst as some point surely, fees and wages like this are not sustainable long term I wouldn't have thought.
Its ridiculous and one of the reasons I am falling out of love with football. In a way I am grateful that ITFC aren't involved in the circus but we will get left behind very quickly now with the current market as it stands. |
Yes and no. The fees / wages are getting much higher, but the players aren't actually getting any better. |  | | |
| PSG prepare to spend £198m on Neymar on 13:15 - Aug 2 with 4125 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Why is it broken? Just because transfer fees keep going up?
Its all relative isn't it.. doesn't really change much.
Championship players go for £10m now, Prem £50m and World Superstars £100m+
Its still the beautiful game.... deep down. |  |
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