| Haringey and us 19:46 - Oct 20 with 22693 views | ChateauWines |
I have just spoken to Club Secretary.
Driving back from Accrington this afternoon I have considered hard what to do about what I heard on terraces today not for the first time. I've been going to football for over 40 years and dont consider myself a snowflake. I also consider the overwhelming majority of our away supporters amongst the best in the land and am proud to consider myself a Tractor Boy.
However....
After the events in Sofia last week and then disturbingly at Haringey involving Yeovil supporters, a certain song mentioned on another thread on here about one of our own players was sung by a small group of 10 or so several times today. It made myself squirm a little as it did others around me. I considered saying something but chickened out, then considered drawing it to attention of a steward or policeman. Thinking that would bring terrible publicity for club I stood and ignored it. It never got going as a song and am sure players didn't hear. Driving home I listened to Haringey manager talking on radio saying supporters should shop others doing and saying these things. I wish now I had stepped up.
What should I do guys?
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| Haringey and us on 20:31 - Oct 21 with 4251 views | crunchie1978 |
| Haringey and us on 19:12 - Oct 21 by textbackup |
why have multiple posters ignored the question.
Should the club captain be banned/punished over sporting a sticker quoting said song? |
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| Haringey and us on 20:33 - Oct 21 with 4245 views | yesjohn99 |
Agree
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| Haringey and us on 20:34 - Oct 21 with 4234 views | StokieBlue |
| Haringey and us on 20:33 - Oct 21 by yesjohn99 |
Agree
SB |
Nice try!
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| Haringey and us on 20:44 - Oct 21 with 4205 views | ChateauWines |
| Haringey and us on 20:13 - Oct 21 by textbackup |
you only need look at the official ITFC photos pre match to see it.
however, I think this is a massive over reaction. I reckon there are millions more important issues in the world than a few kids singing this song. its incredible that a bunch of white wannabe middle class blokes are so up in arms and offended by it, when the bloke himself doesn't care one single bit. I hope he contacts you personally to say stay out of his business |
So if Sky microphone had picked it up and we would all be made to look like stupid mildly racists as a clubs away supporter base that would be okay. I would imagine Toto smiled out of disbelief and not knowing what else to do. If I`m wrong he is happy I will stand corrected. | |
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| Haringey and us on 20:47 - Oct 21 with 4189 views | textbackup |
| Haringey and us on 20:34 - Oct 21 by StokieBlue |
Nice try!
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so club should ban the captain?
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| Haringey and us on 20:51 - Oct 21 with 4173 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Haringey and us on 20:47 - Oct 21 by textbackup |
so club should ban the captain?
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If he has it pointed out that it is inappropriate and he insists on continuing to endorse it.
I would assume Chambers has more sense.
It is Kick It Out you are arguing with. |  |
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| Haringey and us on 20:52 - Oct 21 with 4163 views | SpruceMoose |
| Haringey and us on 20:47 - Oct 21 by textbackup |
so club should ban the captain?
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I think we should ask our captain to set a good example. No need for any punishment. Hopefully he will respond a little better to being informed as to why exactly it is racist than a lot of the posters on here. |  |
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| Haringey and us on 21:56 - Oct 21 with 4120 views | SitfcB |
| Haringey and us on 20:44 - Oct 21 by ChateauWines |
So if Sky microphone had picked it up and we would all be made to look like stupid mildly racists as a clubs away supporter base that would be okay. I would imagine Toto smiled out of disbelief and not knowing what else to do. If I`m wrong he is happy I will stand corrected. |
He said he likes it.... because it’s true
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| Haringey and us on 21:57 - Oct 21 with 4119 views | StokieBlue |
| Haringey and us on 20:47 - Oct 21 by textbackup |
so club should ban the captain?
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Firstly, that's not what I've been discussing. Are you now willing to concede that it's a racist song? I find it very worrying that you can't see that it clearly is.
With regards to Chambers and the fans those are different and independent cases:
Chambers - he should certainly be taken aside and have it explained why that isn't appropriate, he however hasn't been previously warned on the subject so I am sure he will take it on board and do better going forward.
Fans - they were clearly warned by the club that they didn't want the song sung and that it was racist but persisted after the warning. Perhaps they are just a bit stupid but they were warned and the club should follow through on the warning otherwise why would anyone take any future warnings seriously?
That's a longer and better answer than you deserve really but there you go.
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| Haringey and us on 22:27 - Oct 21 with 4086 views | SitfcB |
| Haringey and us on 21:56 - Oct 21 by SitfcB |
He said he likes it.... because it’s true
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Why the downvote SB?
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| Haringey and us on 22:28 - Oct 21 with 4088 views | textbackup |
| Haringey and us on 21:57 - Oct 21 by StokieBlue |
Firstly, that's not what I've been discussing. Are you now willing to concede that it's a racist song? I find it very worrying that you can't see that it clearly is.
With regards to Chambers and the fans those are different and independent cases:
Chambers - he should certainly be taken aside and have it explained why that isn't appropriate, he however hasn't been previously warned on the subject so I am sure he will take it on board and do better going forward.
Fans - they were clearly warned by the club that they didn't want the song sung and that it was racist but persisted after the warning. Perhaps they are just a bit stupid but they were warned and the club should follow through on the warning otherwise why would anyone take any future warnings seriously?
That's a longer and better answer than you deserve really but there you go.
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Don’t worry yourself what I think, but as we are on the subject, I don’t believe it to be racist
It’s just a really sht song
Can see the conversation ‘here Luke them drips on TWTD are up in arms about that song, fck knows why, but better remove that sticker before they explode’ LC ‘ffs ok’ | |
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| Haringey and us on 22:31 - Oct 21 with 4082 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Haringey and us on 20:44 - Oct 21 by ChateauWines |
So if Sky microphone had picked it up and we would all be made to look like stupid mildly racists as a clubs away supporter base that would be okay. I would imagine Toto smiled out of disbelief and not knowing what else to do. If I`m wrong he is happy I will stand corrected. |
He did say he liked it, in that weirdo Alex griffins interview.
However, the fact that people think that makes it ok are just moronic. It is a sh*t song and is racist, end of. Hopefully these "fanzone virgins" (*Reuser is God-2019) can stop the Toto love in and grow up. Losers. |  |
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| Haringey and us on 00:25 - Oct 22 with 4002 views | jeera |
| Haringey and us on 22:28 - Oct 21 by textbackup |
Don’t worry yourself what I think, but as we are on the subject, I don’t believe it to be racist
It’s just a really sht song
Can see the conversation ‘here Luke them drips on TWTD are up in arms about that song, fck knows why, but better remove that sticker before they explode’ LC ‘ffs ok’ |
Anyone saying "Them drips" and not "Those..." probably isn't in a position to refer to others as 'drips', but there you go... |  |
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| Haringey and us on 00:30 - Oct 22 with 3996 views | JakeITFC |
| Haringey and us on 19:12 - Oct 21 by textbackup |
why have multiple posters ignored the question.
Should the club captain be banned/punished over sporting a sticker quoting said song? |
I don’t think he should be banned and I don’t think the fans should be banned for singing it either.
What should happen is that people get told that it’s racist, it’s therefore not great to sing (or have a sticker on your phone) and that’s the end of it.
The benefit of the doubt starts to wear thin with every game that goes on now, though. |  | | |
| Haringey and us on 01:47 - Oct 22 with 3961 views | yesjohn99 |
| Haringey and us on 00:30 - Oct 22 by JakeITFC |
I don’t think he should be banned and I don’t think the fans should be banned for singing it either.
What should happen is that people get told that it’s racist, it’s therefore not great to sing (or have a sticker on your phone) and that’s the end of it.
The benefit of the doubt starts to wear thin with every game that goes on now, though. |
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They should get told that’s it’s an awful song which makes the fan base sound like right numptys. Also there is a few posters on twtd that wrongly label it as racist. Either way, stop being silly. | | | |
| Haringey and us on 06:54 - Oct 22 with 3899 views | gordon |
| Haringey and us on 20:13 - Oct 21 by textbackup |
you only need look at the official ITFC photos pre match to see it.
however, I think this is a massive over reaction. I reckon there are millions more important issues in the world than a few kids singing this song. its incredible that a bunch of white wannabe middle class blokes are so up in arms and offended by it, when the bloke himself doesn't care one single bit. I hope he contacts you personally to say stay out of his business |
Just out of interest, roughly what proportion of our travelling supporters at the game were black? |  | | |
| Haringey and us on 07:20 - Oct 22 with 3882 views | StokieBlue |
| Haringey and us on 01:47 - Oct 22 by yesjohn99 |
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They should get told that’s it’s an awful song which makes the fan base sound like right numptys. Also there is a few posters on twtd that wrongly label it as racist. Either way, stop being silly. |
It's racist.
The fact you can't understand that reflects rather badly on you.
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| Haringey and us on 07:21 - Oct 22 with 3878 views | StokieBlue |
| Haringey and us on 22:27 - Oct 21 by SitfcB |
Why the downvote SB?
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Because you're helping to perpetuate the myth that it's not racist when it clearly is by definition.
You've even up voting his nonsense.
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| Haringey and us on 07:23 - Oct 22 with 3877 views | StokieBlue |
| Haringey and us on 22:28 - Oct 21 by textbackup |
Don’t worry yourself what I think, but as we are on the subject, I don’t believe it to be racist
It’s just a really sht song
Can see the conversation ‘here Luke them drips on TWTD are up in arms about that song, fck knows why, but better remove that sticker before they explode’ LC ‘ffs ok’ |
And it's been pointed out by a while stream of posters that it is racist by definition. Phil has even posted on the matter including references to the Lukaka incidents.
Perhaps you need to reassess your own attitudes on such matters.
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| Haringey and us on 07:33 - Oct 22 with 3866 views | yesjohn99 |
| Haringey and us on 06:54 - Oct 22 by gordon |
Just out of interest, roughly what proportion of our travelling supporters at the game were black? |
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| Haringey and us on 08:00 - Oct 22 with 3837 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Haringey and us on 01:47 - Oct 22 by yesjohn99 |
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They should get told that’s it’s an awful song which makes the fan base sound like right numptys. Also there is a few posters on twtd that wrongly label it as racist. Either way, stop being silly. |
It is racist. Your ignorance of the fact doesn't make it less so. I suggest you educate yourself. |  |
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| Haringey and us on 08:38 - Oct 22 with 3805 views | haynes_toe1 |
Shows what society is up against when there's still absolute geniuses happy to post online that racist songs aren't racist | | | |
| Haringey and us on 08:54 - Oct 22 with 3767 views | crunchie1978 |
| Haringey and us on 12:47 - Oct 21 by footers |
It's a racist stereotype, which makes it racist.
If you'd like me to draw a picture instead, let me know. |
I'd also say the use of the word 'gammon' is racial stereotyping.....banned around willie(not a big one) nillie on here by a certain few. | | | |
| Haringey and us on 08:58 - Oct 22 with 3761 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Haringey and us on 08:54 - Oct 22 by crunchie1978 |
I'd also say the use of the word 'gammon' is racial stereotyping.....banned around willie(not a big one) nillie on here by a certain few. |
The use of the word gammon is racial stereotyping but it’s not a stereotype that is aimed at people who have been persecuted and discriminated against for hundreds of years. |  |
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| Haringey and us on 08:59 - Oct 22 with 3761 views | Bluebell |
Am I the only one who has never heard the song and still don't know what the words are?
I have only missed 2 games this season (Bolton and Stanley), sit in the middle of the SBR Lower and haven't a clue what anyone is talking about. |  | | |
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