| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... 09:42 - Mar 2 with 5520 views | unstableblue |
...she's a right wing loon
With an entrenched anti-lockdown stance
(Don't get me wrong the cost/risk/benefit trade off for Lock-Down was probably well off the mark, but the government had to be risk averse at the time, you'd want them to be)
Amazed how many sensible people and wider media are getting sucked into here point of view.
Disappointed a little in Newsnight last night - an Oakeshott colleague was using the Hancock whatsapp to promote the Telegraph narrative, and a well informed scientist was painting the true picture of the time, calling out some of the statements, and I'm not sure she was given enough space to get the counter view across. |  |
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| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 13:41 - Mar 3 with 784 views | giant_stow |
| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 13:37 - Mar 3 by StokieBlue |
Not true, the scientists had theories and advised with those ideas and a very cautious approach. Anything else would have been hugely irresponsible. By your logic they should have advised that the government let the virus run amok and kill thousands more people until they fully understood it.
I started responding to you as I felt you had stopped being strange with regards to covid but I see that's not actually the case.
It's disappointing.
SB |
I think people generally have got used to Covid and are discounting it when they shouldn't. Just a tiny example - I managed to catch it in a pub last Thursday, got a positive lateral flow test on Mon and am getting gentle preasure to play football tomorrow. I've said no after another red line today, but its surprising how people's attitude to risk has changed. |  |
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| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 15:36 - Mar 3 with 695 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 13:37 - Mar 3 by StokieBlue |
Not true, the scientists had theories and advised with those ideas and a very cautious approach. Anything else would have been hugely irresponsible. By your logic they should have advised that the government let the virus run amok and kill thousands more people until they fully understood it.
I started responding to you as I felt you had stopped being strange with regards to covid but I see that's not actually the case.
It's disappointing.
SB |
I don't think it is strange at all.
You use terms like "the scientists" when you surely mean "some" and I struggle to imagine that there is any science to suggest that old people in homes are less at risk from a virus being confined in a room than when they are sensibly distanced outdoors. But whatever and I will have to live with the disappointment. |  |
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| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 19:44 - Mar 3 with 617 views | Ryorry |
| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 15:36 - Mar 3 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I don't think it is strange at all.
You use terms like "the scientists" when you surely mean "some" and I struggle to imagine that there is any science to suggest that old people in homes are less at risk from a virus being confined in a room than when they are sensibly distanced outdoors. But whatever and I will have to live with the disappointment. |
In some instances common sense gave an *added* level of protection.
In 2020 I caught two common colds after chatting with people outdoors despite being socially distanced. Hadn't met others/been socialising apart from that at the time, so impossible to have caught the colds in any other way.
After that I kept upwind of people, something that was never, ever mentioned by anyone, scientists, medics or others. Seems obvious. Of course that meant others were standing downwind of me, but as I was shielding & never had Covid, & they were working/mixing, I wasn't going to pass anything on to them. |  |
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| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 09:55 - Mar 4 with 520 views | Radlett_blue |
| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 13:41 - Mar 3 by giant_stow |
I think people generally have got used to Covid and are discounting it when they shouldn't. Just a tiny example - I managed to catch it in a pub last Thursday, got a positive lateral flow test on Mon and am getting gentle preasure to play football tomorrow. I've said no after another red line today, but its surprising how people's attitude to risk has changed. |
Not that suprising, since as most of the UK population are now vaccinated, then the risk of people who are infected with COVID becoming seriously ill & needing hospital treatment is small & probably no worse than flu.
The images from a hospital in Italy that were shown here were probably an isolated incident & were used by the nedia to create an unhelpful state of panic, to which the government over-reacted. |  |
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| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 10:03 - Mar 4 with 476 views | StokieBlue |
| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 09:55 - Mar 4 by Radlett_blue |
Not that suprising, since as most of the UK population are now vaccinated, then the risk of people who are infected with COVID becoming seriously ill & needing hospital treatment is small & probably no worse than flu.
The images from a hospital in Italy that were shown here were probably an isolated incident & were used by the nedia to create an unhelpful state of panic, to which the government over-reacted. |
"The images from a hospital in Italy that were shown here were probably an isolated incident & were used by the nedia to create an unhelpful state of panic, to which the government over-reacted."
Are you talking about the images from Italy in Feb 2020?
That would seem to be the case and if so then you're completely wrong, it was not an isolated incident, people were dying all across Northern Italy.
Getting pretty fed up with this now. You've made a statement, with no evidence presented at all in order to play down the actual situation at the time.
SB [Post edited 4 Mar 2023 10:05]
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| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 10:41 - Mar 4 with 420 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 09:55 - Mar 4 by Radlett_blue |
Not that suprising, since as most of the UK population are now vaccinated, then the risk of people who are infected with COVID becoming seriously ill & needing hospital treatment is small & probably no worse than flu.
The images from a hospital in Italy that were shown here were probably an isolated incident & were used by the nedia to create an unhelpful state of panic, to which the government over-reacted. |
Hmmmm......I try to limit my down votes but......hmmmmm | |
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| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 19:34 - Mar 4 with 346 views | BlueBadger |
| Don't get sucked into the Isabel Oakeshott narrative... on 10:26 - Mar 3 by Herbivore |
I'd prefer to take scientific opinion over common sense when it comes to a pandemic, to be honest. |
And indeed, in a pandemic, listening to scientific opinion IS common sense. |  |
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