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But what was with the number of goal kicks Slicker wasn’t taking last night, and just being tapped to him, rather than just taking it himself to get it further up the pitch?
A couple of times looked like it put us a little under pressure from the Reading forwards then pressing?
Think it was all planned tbh. Many times the reading players stood there and didn't know what to do. They then moved. It went slicker to Baggott to williams inside to Baggott to taylor to williams to Baggott. Diag to hutchinson and we got forward.
Lots of teams do this and I'm not 100% sure of the reasoning but I think it's something like:
If you pass to the goalkeeper he then has 10 players in front of him to pass to. Or he can take a few touches and draw the press, opening up space elsewhere.
If the goalkeeper passes to the defender from the goal kick, then the defender only has 9 players in front of him to pass to.
It prevents a team knowing which side of the pitch to focus their press on, I saw a video on it last year because I was baffled by it too. The keeper receiving the ball means its live and so can go either way easily
It's all a long way from when keepers used to boot it as far as they could and the centre forward would try to get on the end of it after the first bounce!
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned.. on 15:39 - Aug 30 with 2595 views
Not sure if it’s been mentioned.. on 15:26 - Aug 30 by Guthrum
Also allows the 'keeper to stand on the ball as long as he wants, because it is in play.
That's the only explan that makes sense to me, but as others have said, the finer details of thinking on contemporary football tactics often escape me too!
Not sure if it’s been mentioned.. on 15:02 - Aug 30 by BlueRaider
It prevents a team knowing which side of the pitch to focus their press on, I saw a video on it last year because I was baffled by it too. The keeper receiving the ball means its live and so can go either way easily
But do we do that with Walton/Hladky? I’ve not noticed it with either of them?
Not sure if it’s been mentioned.. on 15:39 - Aug 30 by Ryorry
That's the only explan that makes sense to me, but as others have said, the finer details of thinking on contemporary football tactics often escape me too!
There's a good video explanation of it here from the Tifo analysis Youtube channel:
All of our keepers have done this on occasions this season.
I agree, it's too much, we are risking ourselves at the back a lot with this style of play, especially when we really don't have the players to do much of it atm.
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned.. on 16:42 - Aug 30 with 2333 views
I agree, it's too much, we are risking ourselves at the back a lot with this style of play, especially when we really don't have the players to do much of it atm.
How many goals have we conceded playing out from the back since McKenna came in?
As he said in a recent press conference fans don't remember the long punts down field that turnover possession which leads to goals - they only remember the playing out from the back ones!
I agree, it's too much, we are risking ourselves at the back a lot with this style of play, especially when we really don't have the players to do much of it atm.
I agree, it's too much, we are risking ourselves at the back a lot with this style of play, especially when we really don't have the players to do much of it atm.
Undecided, Budgie or Mick?
No idea when I began here, was a very long time ago. Previously known as Spirit_of_81. Love cheese, hate the colour of it, this is why it requires some blue in it.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned.. on 19:24 - Aug 30 by Kieran_Knows
All about drawing teams in to press us and ‘hopefully’* us beating that press giving us more room to play in.
*it’s worked considerably well so far.
It’s quite simple really. The ball is not in play until the keeper touches it.
So if the defender takes the goal kick playing it to the keeper the opposition forwards cannot enter the box and try to press until he (the keeper)touches the ball. The keeper therefore has more time to set himself and play the ball. If the keeper played the ball to the defender the opposition could move into the box and press the defender whilst the ball is travelling. In other words the receiving defender would have much less time to set and play the ball than the keeper would have in the first example.
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned.. on 20:45 - Aug 30 with 1808 views
Not sure if it’s been mentioned.. on 20:05 - Aug 30 by Crawfordsboot
It’s quite simple really. The ball is not in play until the keeper touches it.
So if the defender takes the goal kick playing it to the keeper the opposition forwards cannot enter the box and try to press until he (the keeper)touches the ball. The keeper therefore has more time to set himself and play the ball. If the keeper played the ball to the defender the opposition could move into the box and press the defender whilst the ball is travelling. In other words the receiving defender would have much less time to set and play the ball than the keeper would have in the first example.
The ball is in play as soon as it’s kicked, not when the keeper touches it.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned.. on 21:13 - Aug 30 by WestStanderLaLaLa
The ball is in play as soon as it’s kicked, not when the keeper touches it.
I took this from the link provided above by blue curaçao
“The new adjustment to the rule allows players from the team that have possession to enter, and receive the ball inside the box, rather than having to wait for it to leave the penalty area before touching it. Yet, opposing players must remain outside the box until the ball is in play (when the goalkeeper first kicks it).”
This may be badly worded of course
[Post edited 30 Aug 2023 21:29]
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned.. on 21:40 - Aug 30 with 1557 views
The modern press, you draw them in to create overloads. Ideally you pass forwards to a moving man creating pace and space and the game changes. The Dutch invented it really, using space effectively.
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned.. on 21:53 - Aug 30 with 1512 views