One player from the past 5-10 years.. 11:39 - Oct 16 with 4494 views | IPSWICHFANITFC | .. that you'd have like to have seen play under McKenna to see how good they could've become? For me, it's Scott Fraser. I reckon he could've taken his game on to another level under McKenna and be in the squad to this day. Another interesting/debatable one but I think Colin Quaner could've been something under McKenna if they maximised his strengths. | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:43 - Oct 16 with 3169 views | FrimleyBlue | Didn't KM bin fraser... | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:43 - Oct 16 with 3174 views | Sharkey | Freddie Sears | | | |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:43 - Oct 16 with 3173 views | WeWereZombies | Ryan Fraser, McKenna might have calmed him down a bit and also would have found a way to use the medical team to stave off the inevitable toll that his speed has taken on his body (would also have needed Gamechanger to make the loan a permanent signing.) | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:44 - Oct 16 with 3156 views | SitfcB |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:43 - Oct 16 by FrimleyBlue | Didn't KM bin fraser... |
Where would he have done that? | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:45 - Oct 16 with 3141 views | DJR | Whilst I like him a lot, I'm not sure Fraser is sufficiently athletic for a McKenna team. But I think Will Keane could have fitted in very well, if we are looking at players in the last 5 years. | | | |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:46 - Oct 16 with 3127 views | _clive_baker_ | Maybe Dozzell. Someone to help him fulfil his obvious potential and talent, in a dominant side and in a role the McKenna knows particularly well. Can't help but feel his spent most / all of his career in pretty pants sides at their respective levels. Otherwise Waghorn, never lacked the graft and had a lot of quality too. | | | |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:48 - Oct 16 with 3107 views | LankHenners | Don't think Fraser comes close to having the athleticism needed to be in a McKenna midfield. He wanted to leave when he was here and McKenna wasn't going to try and stop him anyway. Daryl Murphy would be an ideal forward in this system. | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:48 - Oct 16 with 3103 views | WeWereZombies |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:44 - Oct 16 by SitfcB | Where would he have done that? |
Charlton ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Fraser_(footballer,_born_1995) Left just over a month after McKenna arrived, but agreed that Scott Fraser was not necessarily 'binned' - he may have had a talk with the new manager and weighed up his options. | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:49 - Oct 16 with 3086 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck | Colin Quaner is a very left field choice, nice guy by all accounts but he was pretty naff. Fraser was more than just the football I feel, he had departed the club a way before his sale and had removed anything ITFC off his socials, much like Barry. There appears to have been a decision made somewhere, and Norwood was left out around that time also. He's hardly thrived in League One since leaving, Norwood is non-league now and Barry is having a bit of a turnaround at Stockport, so on balance whoever decided bin them (whether it was Cook or Ashton, depending on the rumours) got the decision right. The obvious ones for me are the likes of Downes, Dozzell and even Bishop. Three potentially very good Championship players wasted under a string of drastically underqualified coaches (and fitness teams) here. Downes will forever be that one that got away, I appreciate he wanted to leave before but had he hung on and we had him under McKenna we'd be looking at hell of a player now, with a much inflated value to the club, because as good as Mass and Morsy have been, their age means their value will not increase that much as a player Downes age would. Also Adam Webster would be perfect for Town again now. | | | |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:52 - Oct 16 with 3040 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:49 - Oct 16 by ChampionsofInnsbruck | Colin Quaner is a very left field choice, nice guy by all accounts but he was pretty naff. Fraser was more than just the football I feel, he had departed the club a way before his sale and had removed anything ITFC off his socials, much like Barry. There appears to have been a decision made somewhere, and Norwood was left out around that time also. He's hardly thrived in League One since leaving, Norwood is non-league now and Barry is having a bit of a turnaround at Stockport, so on balance whoever decided bin them (whether it was Cook or Ashton, depending on the rumours) got the decision right. The obvious ones for me are the likes of Downes, Dozzell and even Bishop. Three potentially very good Championship players wasted under a string of drastically underqualified coaches (and fitness teams) here. Downes will forever be that one that got away, I appreciate he wanted to leave before but had he hung on and we had him under McKenna we'd be looking at hell of a player now, with a much inflated value to the club, because as good as Mass and Morsy have been, their age means their value will not increase that much as a player Downes age would. Also Adam Webster would be perfect for Town again now. |
Also Celina must feel he made a bad choice not to join us full term! What a waste. | | | |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:01 - Oct 16 with 2958 views | SitfcB |
Didn’t read the OP and just saw the name Ryan Fraser an assumed Frimmers was on about him! Yeah I doubt McKenna had a say in that on really, was probably decided beforehand, he said himself he didn’t really settle here. | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:02 - Oct 16 with 2947 views | monty_radio | Jonas maybe. In order to develop the attacking side of his game, to add a bit of guile. And Hyam, injuries excluding, for the same reason. [Post edited 16 Oct 2023 12:05]
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:16 - Oct 16 with 2859 views | Keno | a fit jack lankester | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:19 - Oct 16 with 2835 views | tractorboy1978 |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 11:45 - Oct 16 by DJR | Whilst I like him a lot, I'm not sure Fraser is sufficiently athletic for a McKenna team. But I think Will Keane could have fitted in very well, if we are looking at players in the last 5 years. |
Re Fraser, nowhere near athletic enough to play CM and couldn't press anywhere near well enough to play in the 10 here. | | | |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:22 - Oct 16 with 2820 views | Churchman | Murphy and McGoldrick. Both good players, especially DM, but I think under McKenna both would have really flourished. I suspect McGoldrick would have suffered far less injury problems too. | | | |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:25 - Oct 16 with 2792 views | Stenvict | Teddy Bishop | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:33 - Oct 16 with 2758 views | Plums | JET. Would love to see what he could have done with him. Bags of talent, lacked application | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:42 - Oct 16 with 2703 views | LeoMuff |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:22 - Oct 16 by Churchman | Murphy and McGoldrick. Both good players, especially DM, but I think under McKenna both would have really flourished. I suspect McGoldrick would have suffered far less injury problems too. |
Prime Murphy would have completed this side, I’m hoping we can mould Hirst into this though ! | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:44 - Oct 16 with 2691 views | MattinLondon | Being obvious, David McGoldrick would have been immense in this team and KM would have really appreciated having him available. I never really rated Skuse but I am curious to see how he would have been utilised in this team. My leftfield choice is Paul Digby - very very highly rated as a youngster and Man Utd were linked to him when still a youngster. In a couple of games - very briefly, he looked quite good - but always looked lost. Just interested to see if KM tactical brain and system would have got more out of him. | | | |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:47 - Oct 16 with 2670 views | charlie1 | Further back than the OP suggests but how good would Jordan Rhodes have been under McKenna?! | | | |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:52 - Oct 16 with 2648 views | monty_radio |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:44 - Oct 16 by MattinLondon | Being obvious, David McGoldrick would have been immense in this team and KM would have really appreciated having him available. I never really rated Skuse but I am curious to see how he would have been utilised in this team. My leftfield choice is Paul Digby - very very highly rated as a youngster and Man Utd were linked to him when still a youngster. In a couple of games - very briefly, he looked quite good - but always looked lost. Just interested to see if KM tactical brain and system would have got more out of him. |
Interesting - I guess several players who underwhelmed might have benefited likewise. The caveat might be that McKenna is a man in a hurry: his time at Man U, his own foreshortened playing career, and the new Gamechanger investment has taught him that. When Humphries made the team he was already light years on from some of the previous flailing candidates that we might name from our decade of disppointment. | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:55 - Oct 16 with 2621 views | NthQldITFC | Downes. Plus, maybe, for sheer puntastic effect, Ed Upson. That would be a midfield pairing capable of giving us fans plenty of ups and downs. (I'm sure that one's been done before, but I never noticed.) [Post edited 16 Oct 2023 12:58]
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:55 - Oct 16 with 2622 views | itfcjoe | That midfield coming through of Downes, Dozzell and Nydam - to see what he could've got out of those players and where/how | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 13:00 - Oct 16 with 2580 views | Dubtractor | Colin Quaner was bloody hopeless. May as well have had Balint Bajner in the team for all the good he did. Scored a total of 28 career goals, as a striker.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collin_Quaner | |
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One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 13:06 - Oct 16 with 2544 views | Dubtractor |
One player from the past 5-10 years.. on 12:55 - Oct 16 by itfcjoe | That midfield coming through of Downes, Dozzell and Nydam - to see what he could've got out of those players and where/how |
Those 3, plus Murphy. As has been suggested in this thread, Hirst has the all the tools to be a similar player to Murphy at his best with us. | |
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