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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? 19:54 - Nov 2 with 262178 viewsnoggin

Yeah but Owen Jones...
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:55 - Dec 31 with 3361 viewsStokieBlue

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:08 - Dec 31 by BanksterDebtSlave

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/dec/31/israel-gaza-war-live-netanyah

Israel’s finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, has called for the return of Jewish settlers to the Gaza Strip after the war and said Gaza’s Palestinian population should be encouraged to emigrate, according to AFP.


No surprises there unfortunately.

The end goal has been obvious for weeks.

SB

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 19:07 - Dec 31 with 3329 viewsRadlett_blue

Ok - I was somewhat puzzled by the negative response to my post on this subject. I'll try again.
1. Israeli forces have killed around 20,000 Palestinians. I find this horrendous & a huge, if predictable, over-reaction to the Hamas incursions.
2. Israel is the Jewish state.
These are facts. So why is anyone surprised that one of the reactions has been a rise in anti-Semitism? At no point did I say this was a good thing, or that I condoned it.

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 19:10 - Dec 31 with 3325 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:55 - Dec 31 by StokieBlue

No surprises there unfortunately.

The end goal has been obvious for weeks.

SB


Beach holidays in 10 years at most I reckon!!
HNY Stokie.

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 14:21 - Jan 2 with 3180 viewsDJR

For a bit of light relief, I wonder if anyone has ever seen Yoav Gallant (a member of the Israeli war cabinet) and the hapless Stuart from the Big Bang Theory in the same room?

https://img.allvipp.com/www-promipool-de/image/upload/c_fit,h_1200,w_1200,c_fill

https://cdn.i24news.tv/uploads/4d/5e/99/e8/ab/a8/13/5b/5b/b1/69/1a/81/0a/d9/2c/4
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 10:06 - Jan 4 with 2990 viewsDJR

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 10:13 - Jan 4 with 2968 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 10:06 - Jan 4 by DJR



“Encourage to emigrate “… I’m sure there’s a word for that….
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 10:20 - Jan 4 with 2952 viewsDJR

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 10:13 - Jan 4 by SuperKieranMcKenna

“Encourage to emigrate “… I’m sure there’s a word for that….


Here are couple of further examples, from a Huff Post article today.


"Last week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told one lawmaker who’d called for “voluntary emigration” from Gaza that he was working to facilitate that movement.

“Our problem is [finding] countries that are willing to absorb Gazans, and we are working on it,” Netanyahu said."




“What needs to be done in the Gaza Strip is to encourage emigration,” Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said on Sunday. Referring to Gaza as a “ghetto,” he added: “If in Gaza there will be 100,000 or 200,000 Arabs and not 2 million, the entire conversation on ‘the day after’ will look different.”

The following day, Smotrich referred to the Jewish settlement of the territory as “important” and said Palestinians should be encouraged to leave the Gaza Strip.

The idea of expelling ― or encouraging the “voluntary” migration of ― Palestinians from Gaza, once a fringe view held by extremists like Meir Kahane, has become normalised in Israeli society since the October 7 Hamas attack."
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 12:14 - Jan 4 with 2881 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 10:13 - Jan 4 by SuperKieranMcKenna

“Encourage to emigrate “… I’m sure there’s a word for that….


And the ones that get to stay can work in hotels.
It's the modern way.

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 16:28 - Jan 4 with 2801 viewsDJR

The following shows the recent UN Resolution (which the UK voted for) was merely lip service, but what is said at the end is interesting.

On Wednesday only 105 trucks with food, medicine and other supplies entered the Gaza Strip via Rafah and Kerem Shalom crossings, the UN said. There has been no substantive increase in the number of trucks entering Gaza since the UN resolution was passed on 22 December.

Israel insists thorough checks are necessary to ensure the UN trucks are not being used to smuggle weapons to Hamas inside Gaza. Others claim it is a policy of deliberate starvation, and will be cited in the legal claim to be made by South Africa at the international court of justice in The Hague next week that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.

There are already signs that some wings of the Israeli government know they need to be more explicit that they are not seeking to starve Palestinians or forcibly deport them, or else risk losing the case.
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 17:04 - Jan 4 with 2750 viewsGlasgowBlue

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 16:28 - Jan 4 by DJR

The following shows the recent UN Resolution (which the UK voted for) was merely lip service, but what is said at the end is interesting.

On Wednesday only 105 trucks with food, medicine and other supplies entered the Gaza Strip via Rafah and Kerem Shalom crossings, the UN said. There has been no substantive increase in the number of trucks entering Gaza since the UN resolution was passed on 22 December.

Israel insists thorough checks are necessary to ensure the UN trucks are not being used to smuggle weapons to Hamas inside Gaza. Others claim it is a policy of deliberate starvation, and will be cited in the legal claim to be made by South Africa at the international court of justice in The Hague next week that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.

There are already signs that some wings of the Israeli government know they need to be more explicit that they are not seeking to starve Palestinians or forcibly deport them, or else risk losing the case.


What little aid that does get through is being stolen from the Palestinian people by Hamas.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/video-shows-gunmen-stealing-from-ai

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/hamas-members

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/humanitarian-trucks-stolen-by-hamas

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:09 - Jan 4 with 2710 viewsStokieBlue

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 17:04 - Jan 4 by GlasgowBlue

What little aid that does get through is being stolen from the Palestinian people by Hamas.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/video-shows-gunmen-stealing-from-ai

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/hamas-members

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/humanitarian-trucks-stolen-by-hamas


You've given three examples, two from the same website which isn't particularly impartial and then declared that all the aid is being stolen by Hamas and you felt it right to accuse me of bias earlier?

The article also states that it could also be local gangs looking to resell the aid.

I corrected my post, I really feel you should correct you language here. I don't doubt some aid is being taken but a lot will be getting through and it's desperately needed as is the increase per the resolution.

Perhaps the UN could be allowed to inspect and protect the convoys if the US wasn't blocking that aspect of the resolutions. This shouldn't be an Israeli/Hamas issue, it should be about getting aid to those who need it.

SB
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:43 - Jan 4 with 2659 viewsredrickstuhaart

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:09 - Jan 4 by StokieBlue

You've given three examples, two from the same website which isn't particularly impartial and then declared that all the aid is being stolen by Hamas and you felt it right to accuse me of bias earlier?

The article also states that it could also be local gangs looking to resell the aid.

I corrected my post, I really feel you should correct you language here. I don't doubt some aid is being taken but a lot will be getting through and it's desperately needed as is the increase per the resolution.

Perhaps the UN could be allowed to inspect and protect the convoys if the US wasn't blocking that aspect of the resolutions. This shouldn't be an Israeli/Hamas issue, it should be about getting aid to those who need it.

SB
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Its ethnic cleansing. Frankly.
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:47 - Jan 4 with 2639 viewsNthsuffolkblue

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 17:04 - Jan 4 by GlasgowBlue

What little aid that does get through is being stolen from the Palestinian people by Hamas.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/video-shows-gunmen-stealing-from-ai

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/hamas-members

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/humanitarian-trucks-stolen-by-hamas


So by limiting the aid, Israel is ensuring Hamas is supplied but preventing the Palestinians from receiving aid. Since the Israeli government are able to identify this theft, why is it so difficult for them to differentiate between Hamas and the population?

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:55 - Jan 4 with 2608 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 17:04 - Jan 4 by GlasgowBlue

What little aid that does get through is being stolen from the Palestinian people by Hamas.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/video-shows-gunmen-stealing-from-ai

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/hamas-members

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/humanitarian-trucks-stolen-by-hamas


Your mask keeps slipping!

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 19:30 - Jan 4 with 2563 viewsDJR

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:09 - Jan 4 by StokieBlue

You've given three examples, two from the same website which isn't particularly impartial and then declared that all the aid is being stolen by Hamas and you felt it right to accuse me of bias earlier?

The article also states that it could also be local gangs looking to resell the aid.

I corrected my post, I really feel you should correct you language here. I don't doubt some aid is being taken but a lot will be getting through and it's desperately needed as is the increase per the resolution.

Perhaps the UN could be allowed to inspect and protect the convoys if the US wasn't blocking that aspect of the resolutions. This shouldn't be an Israeli/Hamas issue, it should be about getting aid to those who need it.

SB
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As it is, aid is getting through to distribution centres, and this from the Commissioner-General of UNWRA is a better explanation for that which is not.

"People – and this is also something completely new – people are stopping aid trucks, taking the food, and eating it right away. This is how desperate and hungry they are. I witnessed this first hand. Just to re-explain, because it is difficult to comprehend, because of the immensity of the needs, and because of the little aid trickling into Gaza. It is becoming more and more difficult to reach our shelters, which are overcrowded, because outside you have tens of thousands of people who are desperately in the same kind of need. They also need to be supplied and assisted.

This has nothing to do with aid diversion. This has to do with a total despair that people are expressing in the Gaza Strip.

Hunger is something people in Gaza have never ever known before. But hunger has now emerged over the last few weeks and we meet more and more people who haven’t eaten for one, two or three days. And this is the reason why, we see people stopping sometimes trucks, downloading and eating on the spot"
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 20:26 - Jan 4 with 2474 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 17:04 - Jan 4 by GlasgowBlue

What little aid that does get through is being stolen from the Palestinian people by Hamas.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/video-shows-gunmen-stealing-from-ai

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/hamas-members

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/humanitarian-trucks-stolen-by-hamas


Bloody Hamas heh!!

"We reported earlier that an Israeli strike had destroyed a home in Mawasi in southern Gaza, an area that the Israeli military had declared a safe zone.

At least 12 people were killed, almost all of them children, according to Palestinian hospital officials.

The blast killed a man and his wife, seven of their children and three other children ranging in age from five to 14, according to a list of the dead who were taken to Nasser hospital in Khan Younis."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/jan/04/israel-gaza-war-live-updates-

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 20:32 - Jan 4 with 2463 viewsDJR

One of the aid agencies Tweeted this footage a few days ago.

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 20:36 - Jan 4 with 2448 viewsNthsuffolkblue

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 20:32 - Jan 4 by DJR

One of the aid agencies Tweeted this footage a few days ago.

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It is impossible to imagine what it must be like.

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 20:42 - Jan 4 with 2428 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 20:32 - Jan 4 by DJR

One of the aid agencies Tweeted this footage a few days ago.

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Obviously all Hamas....sub human.

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 20:46 - Jan 4 with 2415 viewsDJR

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:47 - Jan 4 by Nthsuffolkblue

So by limiting the aid, Israel is ensuring Hamas is supplied but preventing the Palestinians from receiving aid. Since the Israeli government are able to identify this theft, why is it so difficult for them to differentiate between Hamas and the population?


Interestingly, Israel was capable of differentiating between Hamas and the population in its recent attack in Beirut.

This suggests they can do it if they want, but clearly don't want to in Gaza, where entire families are being wiped out in their homes.

Targeted attacks, my ass!
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 20:49 - Jan 4 with 2401 viewsredrickstuhaart

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 20:46 - Jan 4 by DJR

Interestingly, Israel was capable of differentiating between Hamas and the population in its recent attack in Beirut.

This suggests they can do it if they want, but clearly don't want to in Gaza, where entire families are being wiped out in their homes.

Targeted attacks, my ass!
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It appears to serve the purpose. Break them. Scare them. Fragment them. Scare them out. Kill a decent number to make it all more manageable.

Presumably some of the Israeli state would consider such dreadful comments by me to be a "blood libel" in order to deflect.
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 22:23 - Jan 6 with 2182 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Palestinians are all Hamas so it doesn't matter how many die.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/06/journalists-see-their-role-as-help

“They cover the Palestinians only in the framework of security. You hardly see any women, no kids. The spirit is that they are all Hamas,” said photographer and documentary film-maker Anat Saragusti, one of few Israeli journalists to have reported from Gaza independently of the military during past conflicts. And while that may be what viewers and the soldiers on TikTok wanted, it undermined the very state they were fighting to protect, she said.

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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 17:45 - Jan 7 with 2068 viewsBanksterDebtSlave


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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:00 - Jan 9 with 1901 viewsDJR

UK double standards? Shurely shome mishtake!

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2024/jan/07/uk-accused-of-hypocrisy-in-not-backi

UK accused of hypocrisy in not backing claim of genocide in Gaza before ICJ

Experts say submission to international court of justice on Myanmar six weeks ago makes stance ‘wholly disingenuous’

The UK is facing accusations of double standards after formally submitting detailed legal arguments to the international court of justice in The Hague six weeks ago to support claims that Myanmar committed genocide against the Rohingya ethnic group through its mass mistreatment of children and systematically depriving people of their homes and food.

The UK made its 21-page “declaration of intervention” jointly with five other countries, but it is not supporting South Africa as it prepares to try to convince the ICJ on Thursday that Israel is at risk of committing genocide against the Palestinian people.

The UK submission on Myanmar argues there is a lower threshold for determining genocide if the damage has been inflicted on children as opposed to adults. The submission said other actions that could be defined as genocidal, if systematic, include forced displacement from homes, deprivation of medical services and the imposition of subsistence diets.
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How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:14 - Jan 9 with 1877 viewsSwansea_Blue

How many Palestinian lives is sufficient? on 18:43 - Jan 4 by redrickstuhaart

Its ethnic cleansing. Frankly.


It’s very polite ethnic cleansing though, as they are only ‘encouraging’ them to move. I mean, who doesn’t mind being bombed and starved out of their rightful home? We shouldn’t be surprised they’re getting away with it either, not with all the other atrocities that have and are being carried out around the world without any consequences (Ukraine, Uyghurs, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, etc..). It’s almost an endless list - humanity can really suck at times.

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