| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:13 - May 15 with 1756 views | Churchman |
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I think we will know in the next couple of weeks won't we.
Two days ago, I thought he wasn't going anywhere but now reading some of these posts etc and I am picking up tidbits that makes me think he will leave us.
I will be simply crushed, the man is god FFS. |
I think the cold hard reality is that any manager from Newcastle’s down has to say yes if MU approach. That includes Pochettino at Chelsea. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime.
If it happens he goes with my blessing and thanks. What a great two years he’s given us.
The thing to remember though is that this club is very different to the mess it was three years ago in League One. There are structures and plans in place and we are Premier League. It has specific teams performing specific roles whether it be recruitment or community. This football club is growing again. Take a block out of it, like the team management group, and the requirement on who comes in are clear.
Standards at the club are actually defined by the owners and the CEO. They have set the tone and it was something KM bought into from the start and that is what made him such a good fit.
I think it doubtful Manchester Utd will approach him. They seem far too dopey. But if they do, we are in a very different place and fishing in a very different pool. We will know exactly what we want in a manager and there will be no shortage of applicants when that day comes. I hope Ashton has been contingency planning. I would have been in his shoes.
Should McKenna go, I’ll be seriously hacked off, but pleased for him. In football management terms, it’s the top of the mountain. |  | |  |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:14 - May 15 with 1749 views | StokieBlue |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 07:23 - May 15 by kiwiblue |
His head is screwed on and he will know he needs a couple more seasons to prove his abilities and someone else can take a couple of years to sort out the manu mess.
However its noticeable the interest out there and also how grey his hair is now..... |
You can't honestly believe that he would turn something like Man United down?
NTT20 covered this when we got promoted using Kompany as an example. His stock has plummeted this season and he's no longer being talked about fit top jobs like he was before. McKenna will know that.
It would be devastating but some realism is needed here.
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:15 - May 15 with 1744 views | fab_lover |
One wonders where the story is coming from. More than likely McK's agent, who will of course be paid on a % basis.
This is a great way to increase McK's salary / bonuses. A new contract is a win/win for both McK and the club, in that his buy out clause can be drastically increased.
McK will have a great managerial career ahead of him now, whatever he does. However he will be aware that the sort of leeway Ferguson was given at Man U before he started getting results is unlikely to happen again. He needs to prove himself as a Premiership manager by keeping Ipswich up and showing he's capable of managing a Premiership team.
He's still got 20+ years of his career to go. Jump too early to a position he's probably not quite ready for, and that will damage that career. Be the next-but-one Man U manager after getting Premiership experience and that's the smarter move.
And McK is smart. |  | | |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:18 - May 15 with 1714 views | StokieBlue |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:15 - May 15 by fab_lover |
One wonders where the story is coming from. More than likely McK's agent, who will of course be paid on a % basis.
This is a great way to increase McK's salary / bonuses. A new contract is a win/win for both McK and the club, in that his buy out clause can be drastically increased.
McK will have a great managerial career ahead of him now, whatever he does. However he will be aware that the sort of leeway Ferguson was given at Man U before he started getting results is unlikely to happen again. He needs to prove himself as a Premiership manager by keeping Ipswich up and showing he's capable of managing a Premiership team.
He's still got 20+ years of his career to go. Jump too early to a position he's probably not quite ready for, and that will damage that career. Be the next-but-one Man U manager after getting Premiership experience and that's the smarter move.
And McK is smart. |
If we get relegated this season would they still want him? Kompany isn't wanted by the big boys anymore.
If you listen to ntt20 the day we got promoted they cover this pretty well.
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:20 - May 15 with 1690 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 07:43 - May 15 by Plums |
They're a different proposition under Ratcliffe and Brailsford though. Their sporting ethos is likely to be right up Kieran's street. I can't see them appointing another manager from the carousel of usual suspects as it clearly isn't working for them.
Fingers crossed it's too early but as others say, it's nigh on impossible to turn the job down. |
Think it’s too early to tell what Ratcliffe and Brailsford bring. Ineos haven’t transformed Nice. |  |
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:25 - May 15 with 1641 views | fab_lover |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:18 - May 15 by StokieBlue |
If we get relegated this season would they still want him? Kompany isn't wanted by the big boys anymore.
If you listen to ntt20 the day we got promoted they cover this pretty well.
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If we get relegated straight away then he'll have shown he's not up to being a Premiership manager.
This is when he takes it to the next level. It's a new world he's just entering, true he will have seen a little bit of it when at United, but now he's in the spotlight.
He's in a hell of good place at the moment. Complete backing from the Board, from the players, from everyone basically.
Take the Man U job on, fluff it, be out by Christmas after a run of poor results, and sure he'll have pocketed a few million but the chance of getting again what he's got here will be very slight.
Keep us up - comfortably - and the world's his lobster. | | | |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:27 - May 15 with 1619 views | StokieBlue |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:25 - May 15 by fab_lover |
If we get relegated straight away then he'll have shown he's not up to being a Premiership manager.
This is when he takes it to the next level. It's a new world he's just entering, true he will have seen a little bit of it when at United, but now he's in the spotlight.
He's in a hell of good place at the moment. Complete backing from the Board, from the players, from everyone basically.
Take the Man U job on, fluff it, be out by Christmas after a run of poor results, and sure he'll have pocketed a few million but the chance of getting again what he's got here will be very slight.
Keep us up - comfortably - and the world's his lobster. |
I think this is a pretty naïve way of looking at things.
It would be devastating if he left but the fact you think he would turn down Man United is baffling.
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:31 - May 15 with 1585 views | Herbivore |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:27 - May 15 by StokieBlue |
I think this is a pretty naïve way of looking at things.
It would be devastating if he left but the fact you think he would turn down Man United is baffling.
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Agreed, I think some people are being massively unrealistic. If United come calling, there are very few managers who would turn them down and I seriously doubt McKenna is one of them. It's his dream job, you don't say no to your dream job when it's offered. [Post edited 15 May 8:35]
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| I'd be amazed if they offered him the job on 08:33 - May 15 with 1586 views | Dyland |
They need to get their house in order with a grizzly gnarled old hatchet man for a season, then look to build (with someone like McKenna).
However, and as others have commented, IF they offer him the job now the idea he wouldn't take it is mind boggling. He's played a blinder and would be odds on to play the cards he has now i.e. take the job every day of the week while his stock is sky high
IF they offer the job and IF he doesn't take it then frankly the man is a god and possibly the saviour of football. |  |
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| Why wouldn't he do it? on 08:36 - May 15 with 1544 views | Dyland |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:07 - May 15 by pennblue |
The idea that he leaves us know is really unthinkable, we have to assume he would not do it |
Like it or not, Town is and has always been a stepping stone. All this pontificating about the time being right for this or that is irrelevant. If anything he may get more leeway if he fails at a basket case United than if he struggles with Town. If anything, ManU is the bigger free hit. Unfortunately. | |
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:36 - May 15 with 1537 views | Churchman |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:25 - May 15 by fab_lover |
If we get relegated straight away then he'll have shown he's not up to being a Premiership manager.
This is when he takes it to the next level. It's a new world he's just entering, true he will have seen a little bit of it when at United, but now he's in the spotlight.
He's in a hell of good place at the moment. Complete backing from the Board, from the players, from everyone basically.
Take the Man U job on, fluff it, be out by Christmas after a run of poor results, and sure he'll have pocketed a few million but the chance of getting again what he's got here will be very slight.
Keep us up - comfortably - and the world's his lobster. |
If he goes to United and it turns out badly, the blame will fall on United, not him. Everyone knows they’re a mess. It’s why it is such a great opportunity for anyone.
He’d get another job easily after what he’s done here. Look at Moyes. He bombed at Old Trafford after a long, successful career at Everton. He came out of it just fine. | | | |
| I'd be amazed if they offered him the job on 08:37 - May 15 with 1524 views | Herbivore |
| I'd be amazed if they offered him the job on 08:33 - May 15 by Dyland |
They need to get their house in order with a grizzly gnarled old hatchet man for a season, then look to build (with someone like McKenna).
However, and as others have commented, IF they offer him the job now the idea he wouldn't take it is mind boggling. He's played a blinder and would be odds on to play the cards he has now i.e. take the job every day of the week while his stock is sky high
IF they offer the job and IF he doesn't take it then frankly the man is a god and possibly the saviour of football. |
I think you're right that ultimately United will see it as not the right time for him and might go for a more experienced head to oversee the first part of a rebuild. That's why I'm not massively bricking it currently as I think it's too soon, struggling to think of another situation where a massive club have gone for a manager with no top flight management experience, I guess that applies to Artera at Arsenal but he'd been around the City set up for ages and Arsenal aren't in the same league as United in terms of the stature of the club. | |
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:41 - May 15 with 1480 views | pointofblue |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:36 - May 15 by Churchman |
If he goes to United and it turns out badly, the blame will fall on United, not him. Everyone knows they’re a mess. It’s why it is such a great opportunity for anyone.
He’d get another job easily after what he’s done here. Look at Moyes. He bombed at Old Trafford after a long, successful career at Everton. He came out of it just fine. |
Only just - because he stumbled into West Ham. He had nightmare spells at Sociedad and Sunderland before that.
If United offers him the job then he goes but, if it doesn't work out, I can see him coming back here at some point. [Post edited 15 May 8:41]
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:46 - May 15 with 1430 views | Garv |
I might end up being wrong but I just can't see it.
Let's employ one of Ole's coaches who oversaw a 5-0 home defeat to Liverpool the last time he was here.
That's a horribly cynical view but it's what some people will say. He's also 38 years old, it's a massive job. |  |
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:47 - May 15 with 1405 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:27 - May 15 by StokieBlue |
I think this is a pretty naïve way of looking at things.
It would be devastating if he left but the fact you think he would turn down Man United is baffling.
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Highly unlikely to turn down one of the biggest clubs in the world isn’t he? I’m sure he’d back himself to do well there.
I was hoping things would settle down and at least let me get a couple of good weeks work done before the rumour mill spun up. Looks like that ain’t gonna happen - regular TWTD checks it is. |  |
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| Him being 38 is pretty irrelevant on 08:50 - May 15 with 1388 views | Dyland |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:46 - May 15 by Garv |
I might end up being wrong but I just can't see it.
Let's employ one of Ole's coaches who oversaw a 5-0 home defeat to Liverpool the last time he was here.
That's a horribly cynical view but it's what some people will say. He's also 38 years old, it's a massive job. |
The bloke is cool as a cucumber.
Sure, it's a different level, but he was in and around that level for years before joining Town.
No one in the corridors of power at Old Trafford will be apportioining any blame to McKenna whatsoever for anything that has happened post Fergusgon. | |
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| I'd be amazed if they offered him the job on 08:51 - May 15 with 1379 views | NthQldITFC |
| I'd be amazed if they offered him the job on 08:37 - May 15 by Herbivore |
I think you're right that ultimately United will see it as not the right time for him and might go for a more experienced head to oversee the first part of a rebuild. That's why I'm not massively bricking it currently as I think it's too soon, struggling to think of another situation where a massive club have gone for a manager with no top flight management experience, I guess that applies to Artera at Arsenal but he'd been around the City set up for ages and Arsenal aren't in the same league as United in terms of the stature of the club. |
I wonder if some sort of agreement or understanding about taking over next summer contingent upon other things might be under discussion? |  |
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:52 - May 15 with 1362 views | dirtyboy |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:25 - May 15 by fab_lover |
If we get relegated straight away then he'll have shown he's not up to being a Premiership manager.
This is when he takes it to the next level. It's a new world he's just entering, true he will have seen a little bit of it when at United, but now he's in the spotlight.
He's in a hell of good place at the moment. Complete backing from the Board, from the players, from everyone basically.
Take the Man U job on, fluff it, be out by Christmas after a run of poor results, and sure he'll have pocketed a few million but the chance of getting again what he's got here will be very slight.
Keep us up - comfortably - and the world's his lobster. |
McKenna is the type of person who backs himself.
He's not been afraid to move to get to where he wants to be and I don't think Ipswich is by any means his end goal. United probably is and it'll hurt him seeing his boyhood team not dominating.
He'll know in his mind that he could do better with United and would take the opportunity in a heartbeat.
I've said before, but the only thing that possibly keeps him with us in my mind is what his parents did with their hotel.
They took a business and built it over a number of years to become a top hotel, from not very much. Years of effort to create that legacy.
With the backing we appear to have, McKenna may, just may, want to create something like that.
Not just building a football team, but rebuilding a club and looking back on a career with pride in more than just success on the pitch....
The top clubs are just that, top clubs, they won't ever go anywhere, they're too big now, where's the satisfaction in just keeping something big?
It's a long shot, but the only hope I cling to. |  | | |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:56 - May 15 with 1324 views | Vic |
Despite his success wit( us it would be a massive risk for Man U to appoint someone who hasn’t been a No1 in the Prem or another of the top euro leagues.
I absolutely get all the praise for the way KM has gone about his business here, and I know he’s been on staff there, but it’s not the same as being in the hopseat at the top table is it.
So I don’t think they’ll even ask him. IMO he’s much more likely to be approach3d by a Palace, Brentford type club, but now we’re in the Prem why would be consider leaving us for them when realistically our ceiling is higher than both those clubs? |  |
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 09:04 - May 15 with 1243 views | yorkshireblue |
If they come calling, he will go. I'd suggest anyone who thinks otherwise is naive. As I've already mentioned up thread - look at Kompany. Was - alledgely - being looked at by the big boys and after just one season that's no longer the case. And remember, he'd managed in Europe with Anderlecht before taking the Burnley job, so already has more experience than McKenna. Failing at job at a Top Six club doesn't end your career as some seem to suggest - you can still be parlayed into another decent job. Lampard to Everton as a recent example.
Following what Brailsford and subsequently Ratcliffe have done in cycling, McKenna does seem to tick a lot of boxes of what they would like to achieve... but will they want to make a big spash (bigger than the waterfall coming from their roof at least). They are a massive global brand, not just a football club. This is their first big decision to make since investing. Whilst McKenna strikes me as the best choice, he comes with risk doesn't he? If they continue to flounder their fans will say "why did we appoint someone who failed here before and never managed in Europe". Remember the old advert - nobody gets fired for buying IBM.... so I think they are more likley to - this time round at least - for a tried and tested paid of hands. Zidane or Flick maybe? |  | | |
| I wonder if this is why on 09:05 - May 15 with 1229 views | Guthrum |
Warnock has only taken on an advisory role at Torquay? |  |
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 09:05 - May 15 with 1221 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:10 - May 15 by Herbivore |
Anyone who thinks he'd turn it down if offered isn't being remotely realistic. If they decide they want him, he'll go. It's a fantastic opportunity at a giant of a club that he's worked at before and is a lifelong fan of. It doesn't matter that the time isn't ideal with them needing an overhaul and being a mess, you can't turn down this kind of opportunity. |
These 'If Man U come calling he goes" posts make me laugh. It's almost like McKenna himself has no say in the matter! The truth is, unless you know him, know what he wants, no-one can possibly say "He'll go."
Whilst it might seem logical, there are a myriad of reasons why he might not go. |  |
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 09:07 - May 15 with 1199 views | footers |
Lood ol' squit, buh. |  |
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 09:10 - May 15 with 1150 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 08:18 - May 15 by StokieBlue |
If we get relegated this season would they still want him? Kompany isn't wanted by the big boys anymore.
If you listen to ntt20 the day we got promoted they cover this pretty well.
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Kompany hasn't just jumped two divisions in a row. You're comparing apples with oranges. | |
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| Guardian reporting McKenna to Man Utd link on 09:11 - May 15 with 1140 views | lizzibee |
Why do people believe these stories? made up for a bit of sensitisation and re-tweeted because that is what social media says. Would it not be better to listen to is post promotion speech where he said he was sticking and loved it here? | | | |
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