| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:12 - Feb 7 with 2081 views | DanTheMan |
I hear it's impossible to be anti-Trump and anti-Assad at the same time.
Literally impossible. |  |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:13 - Feb 7 with 2057 views | bournemouthblue |
Syrian regime are apalling shocker
If we'd have bombed them out of power, ISIS would be in charge. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't? |  |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:14 - Feb 7 with 2068 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:12 - Feb 7 by DanTheMan |
I hear it's impossible to be anti-Trump and anti-Assad at the same time.
Literally impossible. |
How many people are talking about Trump on here? Howe many peoples are talking about the situation in Syria? |  |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:16 - Feb 7 with 2050 views | ThePitBoss |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:14 - Feb 7 by GlasgowBlue |
How many people are talking about Trump on here? Howe many peoples are talking about the situation in Syria? |
No enough orange. |  | | |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:16 - Feb 7 with 2052 views | DanTheMan |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:14 - Feb 7 by GlasgowBlue |
How many people are talking about Trump on here? Howe many peoples are talking about the situation in Syria? |
Lots of people.
Not many.
Some say the two aren't related.
I see Amnesty International actually has a few sections dedicated to the refugee ban, you should email them and tell them they're talking about the wrong thing. | |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:21 - Feb 7 with 2011 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:16 - Feb 7 by DanTheMan |
Lots of people.
Not many.
Some say the two aren't related.
I see Amnesty International actually has a few sections dedicated to the refugee ban, you should email them and tell them they're talking about the wrong thing. |
Trump's refugee ban is appalling. But Amnesty are able to discuss more than one topic.
This place is obsessed with Trump whilst ignoring the suffering of millions in Syria.
If you have time look back on how many threads there have been on Trump since September and how many threads there have been on the situation in Syria. | |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:31 - Feb 7 with 1987 views | DanTheMan |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:21 - Feb 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Trump's refugee ban is appalling. But Amnesty are able to discuss more than one topic.
This place is obsessed with Trump whilst ignoring the suffering of millions in Syria.
If you have time look back on how many threads there have been on Trump since September and how many threads there have been on the situation in Syria. |
Because Trump has been in office and doing things that have been in the news now for the past week or so. It's basically be an on going rolling news story. It's like this because nobody is used to an American president acting in this way. That's why people talk about it.
It does not mean that people are not concerned about Syrians. People tend to discuss what is most shocking and relevant to them. As unfortunate as it is, people dying in Syria at the hands of someone we already know is not a very nice person is not actually that shocking to people, hence it doesn't get discussed. Other than saying "that's terrible" there isn't a lot to say.
Whereas Trump divides opinion pretty damn heavily which is another reason why it gets discussed.
I also see you haven't talked about the bombing in Kabul, this must mean that it is because you are ignoring the suffering of Afghanis.... yes this is a ridiculous thing to say. But it's literally the same reason people aren't discussing it. It's a part of the world where atrocities are happening on a near daily basis.
I'm not even sure where I'm going with this other than it's silly to try and make people bad about criticising Trump because they haven't also criticised this other unrelated thing. | |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:37 - Feb 7 with 1944 views | bournemouthblue |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:21 - Feb 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Trump's refugee ban is appalling. But Amnesty are able to discuss more than one topic.
This place is obsessed with Trump whilst ignoring the suffering of millions in Syria.
If you have time look back on how many threads there have been on Trump since September and how many threads there have been on the situation in Syria. |
Indeed, we must be so proud that our government is taking so few Syrian refugees?
It was rather embarrassing for Theresa to visit Turkey and compare the amount they have taken in comparison to ourselves, the 6th richest country in the World? | |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:42 - Feb 7 with 1922 views | Plums |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:37 - Feb 7 by bournemouthblue |
Indeed, we must be so proud that our government is taking so few Syrian refugees?
It was rather embarrassing for Theresa to visit Turkey and compare the amount they have taken in comparison to ourselves, the 6th richest country in the World? |
Totally agree but nowhere near as embarrassed as Russia should be for exacerbating the situation significantly whilst refusing to take them. |  |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:50 - Feb 7 with 1897 views | Bluesquid |
Amnesty International?
Didn't they corroborate the false Nayirah testimony regarding Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital?
Yes indeedy!
Fool me once... |  | | |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 19:08 - Feb 7 with 1839 views | Illinoisblue |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:31 - Feb 7 by DanTheMan |
Because Trump has been in office and doing things that have been in the news now for the past week or so. It's basically be an on going rolling news story. It's like this because nobody is used to an American president acting in this way. That's why people talk about it.
It does not mean that people are not concerned about Syrians. People tend to discuss what is most shocking and relevant to them. As unfortunate as it is, people dying in Syria at the hands of someone we already know is not a very nice person is not actually that shocking to people, hence it doesn't get discussed. Other than saying "that's terrible" there isn't a lot to say.
Whereas Trump divides opinion pretty damn heavily which is another reason why it gets discussed.
I also see you haven't talked about the bombing in Kabul, this must mean that it is because you are ignoring the suffering of Afghanis.... yes this is a ridiculous thing to say. But it's literally the same reason people aren't discussing it. It's a part of the world where atrocities are happening on a near daily basis.
I'm not even sure where I'm going with this other than it's silly to try and make people bad about criticising Trump because they haven't also criticised this other unrelated thing. |
surely you're taking an overly literal stance on Glasser's original post. |  |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 19:10 - Feb 7 with 1832 views | Guthrum |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:13 - Feb 7 by bournemouthblue |
Syrian regime are apalling shocker
If we'd have bombed them out of power, ISIS would be in charge. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't? |
I doubt that would have happened. The extended civil war gave IS the space to exploit. If it had ended sooner, in the autumn of 2013, the issue may well not have had time to develop the way it did (IS was only just splitting from al-Qaeda/al-Nusra and establishing itself at that point).
Not that the Russians would have been any keener to let Assad be 'bombed ... out of power' back then, but their attention at the time was becoming concentrated on the developing situation in Ukraine, not Syria. |  |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 19:14 - Feb 7 with 1821 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 19:10 - Feb 7 by Guthrum |
I doubt that would have happened. The extended civil war gave IS the space to exploit. If it had ended sooner, in the autumn of 2013, the issue may well not have had time to develop the way it did (IS was only just splitting from al-Qaeda/al-Nusra and establishing itself at that point).
Not that the Russians would have been any keener to let Assad be 'bombed ... out of power' back then, but their attention at the time was becoming concentrated on the developing situation in Ukraine, not Syria. |
I can't see Bournemouth's post but what you have said is spot on. We abandoned the Syrians in 2013 and IS filled that vacuum. | |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 19:18 - Feb 7 with 1795 views | bournemouthblue |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:42 - Feb 7 by Plums |
Totally agree but nowhere near as embarrassed as Russia should be for exacerbating the situation significantly whilst refusing to take them. |
Russia maybe worse, that dosent justify our approach | |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 19:40 - Feb 7 with 1768 views | Guthrum |
Belarus is one of Russia's firmest allies (and a useful buffer with Poland). Unlikely they'd invade. | |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 20:17 - Feb 7 with 1676 views | Steve_M |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 19:40 - Feb 7 by Guthrum |
Belarus is one of Russia's firmest allies (and a useful buffer with Poland). Unlikely they'd invade. |
Lukashenka cancelled plans for a Russian airbase recently and border controls have been reintroduced, at least on the Russian side. One to watch anyway. |  |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 20:23 - Feb 7 with 1669 views | Steve_M |
I know it's been said but it really would have been possible for you to post about Syria without trying to point-score about it.
The Assad regime's systematic slaughter of almost any opposition over the last six years is clear crime against humanity and the situation in Syria is seemingly too complicated to gain much mainstream media attention in this country. In fact the only people Assad doesn't seem to be trying to kill are IS in a clear attempt to leave a binary choice between him and them. | |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 20:29 - Feb 7 with 1635 views | GeoffSentence |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:14 - Feb 7 by GlasgowBlue |
How many people are talking about Trump on here? Howe many peoples are talking about the situation in Syria? |
Syria has been dragging on for years more or less in the same vein, and has been discussed until the cows come home. Trump has in power for a just a few weeks and is making some important and confidential changes. He has novelty value. |  |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 20:32 - Feb 7 with 1631 views | bournemouthblue |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 20:23 - Feb 7 by Steve_M |
I know it's been said but it really would have been possible for you to post about Syria without trying to point-score about it.
The Assad regime's systematic slaughter of almost any opposition over the last six years is clear crime against humanity and the situation in Syria is seemingly too complicated to gain much mainstream media attention in this country. In fact the only people Assad doesn't seem to be trying to kill are IS in a clear attempt to leave a binary choice between him and them. |
just to clear things up for the West who love binary choices | |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 20:32 - Feb 7 with 1631 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
https://libcom.org/library/spectacular-times-14-bigger-cages-longer-chains
If you open the link to this zine from the 80's and go to pages 17 onwards it gives a pretty good analysis of the nonsense that is single issue politics. The whole collection has got more relevant since they were published.
The "Society of the Spectacle" is the notion that we are so busy observing/consuming life that we forget to actually live/experience it !....this was before virtual reality ! |  |
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| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 20:55 - Feb 7 with 1600 views | eireblue |
virtue signalling
noun
the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.
Oh, I get it now.... |  | | |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 21:35 - Feb 7 with 1544 views | No9 |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 18:21 - Feb 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Trump's refugee ban is appalling. But Amnesty are able to discuss more than one topic.
This place is obsessed with Trump whilst ignoring the suffering of millions in Syria.
If you have time look back on how many threads there have been on Trump since September and how many threads there have been on the situation in Syria. |
Syria is something the UN should have done something about a long time ago & all members of the UN should seriously look in the mirror at what they could have done.
The UN will do nothing about Trump
The situations are incomparable | | | |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 07:46 - Feb 8 with 1364 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Meanwhile, whilst people are getting in a lather over Trump on 20:55 - Feb 7 by eireblue |
virtue signalling
noun
the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.
Oh, I get it now.... |
So what you are saying is that I am only highlighting the plight of the Syrian people to for self gratification? | |
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