| Never go 'full-Corbyn' 09:28 - Jan 10 with 3386 views | ElderGrizzly |
National Wage Cap?
Restrict Freedom of Movement?
Corbyn endorsing UKIP policies?
I'm guessing those who wanted to see more of Corbyn will wish he was locked back away?
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:33 - Jan 10 with 1699 views | lowhouseblue |
but hey, at least town are doing ok. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:35 - Jan 10 with 1682 views | No9 |
& to think if the Lib-Dems had not been such stupid, incompetent @rseholes we may not be in this mess?
But hey, head up your @rse is, the 'British' way |  | | |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:37 - Jan 10 with 1665 views | StokieBlue |
Unaspirational and the politics of envy at its worst.
We need budding entrepreneurs making companies and employing people, not ridiculous nonsense.
I notice the cap would be higher than his salary, a salary which is massive compared to those he mentions in the same breath.
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:40 - Jan 10 with 1632 views | Keno |
I hope Milne doesnt see that picture
he might think he's a cheap option to out striker problems!! |  |
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:41 - Jan 10 with 1619 views | lowhouseblue |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:37 - Jan 10 by StokieBlue |
Unaspirational and the politics of envy at its worst.
We need budding entrepreneurs making companies and employing people, not ridiculous nonsense.
I notice the cap would be higher than his salary, a salary which is massive compared to those he mentions in the same breath.
SB |
to be fair to corbyn he sees this as town's best route back into the premier league. once all the top players have headed off abroad we'll be back. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:42 - Jan 10 with 1617 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:40 - Jan 10 by Keno |
I hope Milne doesnt see that picture
he might think he's a cheap option to out striker problems!! |
Well Mick does like an ineffective left winger | | | |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:43 - Jan 10 with 1601 views | DoobDude |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:37 - Jan 10 by StokieBlue |
Unaspirational and the politics of envy at its worst.
We need budding entrepreneurs making companies and employing people, not ridiculous nonsense.
I notice the cap would be higher than his salary, a salary which is massive compared to those he mentions in the same breath.
SB |
But the "budding entrpreneurs" don't care about wage caps.
As they would make their money from dividends and pensions.
I would hope it would be aimed at the hopeless CEOs in the public sector.
And the laughable excuse that if you don't pay them £250K you won't get the talent.
See that useless Southern Health woman for a classic example. |  |
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:43 - Jan 10 with 1602 views | hype313 |
Be interesting to see how his beloved Gooners feel about his wage cap... |  |
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:44 - Jan 10 with 1600 views | No9 |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:37 - Jan 10 by StokieBlue |
Unaspirational and the politics of envy at its worst.
We need budding entrepreneurs making companies and employing people, not ridiculous nonsense.
I notice the cap would be higher than his salary, a salary which is massive compared to those he mentions in the same breath.
SB |
But it has always been the 'system' rather than politicians who have stifled budding entrepreneurs hasn't it?
the no tax allowance under Thatcher virtually killed them off & that was always Osbornes policy which fortunately now looks as though it may be addressed.
If you really want to encourage entrepreneurs then you would ignore the cap and concentrate on ensuring that those who want to get their ideas off the ground are not totally fcuked by the banks who have done more to kill off SME's than any politician
& small companies never seem to take advantage of things which are introducued to help them e.g. the Brown 10% tax advantage to SME's which was mainly abused rather than used to advantage. | | | |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:58 - Jan 10 with 1535 views | BOjK |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:44 - Jan 10 by No9 |
But it has always been the 'system' rather than politicians who have stifled budding entrepreneurs hasn't it?
the no tax allowance under Thatcher virtually killed them off & that was always Osbornes policy which fortunately now looks as though it may be addressed.
If you really want to encourage entrepreneurs then you would ignore the cap and concentrate on ensuring that those who want to get their ideas off the ground are not totally fcuked by the banks who have done more to kill off SME's than any politician
& small companies never seem to take advantage of things which are introducued to help them e.g. the Brown 10% tax advantage to SME's which was mainly abused rather than used to advantage. |
There is some truth in that but the tax advantages to start-ups are significant and highly motivational to entrepreneurs . |  |
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 10:00 - Jan 10 with 1522 views | BackToRussia |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:37 - Jan 10 by StokieBlue |
Unaspirational and the politics of envy at its worst.
We need budding entrepreneurs making companies and employing people, not ridiculous nonsense.
I notice the cap would be higher than his salary, a salary which is massive compared to those he mentions in the same breath.
SB |
you actually used the word aspirational like it meant something, weird. |  |
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 10:02 - Jan 10 with 1503 views | No9 |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:40 - Jan 10 by Keno |
I hope Milne doesnt see that picture
he might think he's a cheap option to out striker problems!! |
but, is he old enough for the first team squad? | | | |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 10:08 - Jan 10 with 1464 views | No9 |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:58 - Jan 10 by BOjK |
There is some truth in that but the tax advantages to start-ups are significant and highly motivational to entrepreneurs . |
but the tax advantages are only part of the story as under some circumstances they are insufficient which government has, to an extent recognised by the amount the LEP's are chucking around. Neither of those advantages address the problems created by the banks.
In one forum we tried to get support from the tories to have either RBS or Lloyds completely nationalised as a bank for use by students, SME's & pensioners - with limits of course but they would not have it.
As a matter of interest I don't think Cameron /Osborne chucked as much money at entrereneurs as they chucked aat people wanting to buy houses up to £600k - but them the entrepreneur does not have as much clout as do property developers | | | |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 10:13 - Jan 10 with 1439 views | chicoazul |
Wage control. Always a huge vote winner. Good to see the tenets of North London faux-intellectual egalitarian dinner party Gramsci-Marxism live strong in Comrade Corbyn. Tories must be laughing their knobs off. |  |
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 10:47 - Jan 10 with 1363 views | Gogs |
Corbyn may as well have policies along the lines of 'free unicorns for all'. He won't be PM for as long as he has got a hole in his @rse |  | | |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:01 - Jan 10 with 1324 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:43 - Jan 10 by hype313 |
Be interesting to see how his beloved Gooners feel about his wage cap... |
They asked him that sort of question and he said that Arsene Wenger would be in favour of it as he is an accountant at heart.
For what it's worth I think our politicians are massively underpaid and I also think some footballers wages are obscene, although I don't really agree with wage capping. Well I struggle with it as I don't see what it has to do with "The Man" |  |
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:05 - Jan 10 with 1304 views | hype313 |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:01 - Jan 10 by Lord_Lucan |
They asked him that sort of question and he said that Arsene Wenger would be in favour of it as he is an accountant at heart.
For what it's worth I think our politicians are massively underpaid and I also think some footballers wages are obscene, although I don't really agree with wage capping. Well I struggle with it as I don't see what it has to do with "The Man" |
Wenger would love it as he can't stand the thought of paying his players £150k a week, it's silly money granted, but it's the reality of the PL and the money involved.
Wenger could be principled and say he won't go above a certain number, but if clubs like Stoke start offering higher wages and Arsenal really do then start falling down then the fans would kick off, especially given that they are the highest ticket cost for football in the world. | |
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:09 - Jan 10 with 1290 views | oldbluestu |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:43 - Jan 10 by DoobDude |
But the "budding entrpreneurs" don't care about wage caps.
As they would make their money from dividends and pensions.
I would hope it would be aimed at the hopeless CEOs in the public sector.
And the laughable excuse that if you don't pay them £250K you won't get the talent.
See that useless Southern Health woman for a classic example. |
I'm sure Corbyn would exempt Public Sector, he's only interested in attacking the private sector
Unfortunately he comes from the world that assumes anyone with money had it given to them and that nobody ever worked hard to reach wealthy levels after starting with nothing. |  | | |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:35 - Jan 10 with 1249 views | No9 |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:09 - Jan 10 by oldbluestu |
I'm sure Corbyn would exempt Public Sector, he's only interested in attacking the private sector
Unfortunately he comes from the world that assumes anyone with money had it given to them and that nobody ever worked hard to reach wealthy levels after starting with nothing. |
It is the wealthy people like you who forget the wealth is actually created by the worker not the boardroom
YOu may have overlooked the fact that many shareholders are voting down the bloated wage increases required by the CEO? | | | |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:36 - Jan 10 with 1234 views | No9 |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 09:43 - Jan 10 by hype313 |
Be interesting to see how his beloved Gooners feel about his wage cap... |
What is the relation between Wengers pay & those of his players- in terms of a multiplier? | | | |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:39 - Jan 10 with 1221 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:35 - Jan 10 by No9 |
It is the wealthy people like you who forget the wealth is actually created by the worker not the boardroom
YOu may have overlooked the fact that many shareholders are voting down the bloated wage increases required by the CEO? |
"It is the wealthy people like you who forget the wealth is actually created by the worker not the boardroom"
That's like a future ex wife demanding half of your business because she did some filing and typing. | |
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:40 - Jan 10 with 1220 views | chicoazul |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:35 - Jan 10 by No9 |
It is the wealthy people like you who forget the wealth is actually created by the worker not the boardroom
YOu may have overlooked the fact that many shareholders are voting down the bloated wage increases required by the CEO? |
You make an interesting point here in that gigantic salaries could be challenged by organised shareholder revolt, but this never happens. | |
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| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:44 - Jan 10 with 1196 views | No9 |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:40 - Jan 10 by chicoazul |
You make an interesting point here in that gigantic salaries could be challenged by organised shareholder revolt, but this never happens. |
I thought in some cases (but not enough) this had actually happened? e.g. I thought wne G bbrought in the bloke from Statoil on an enormous reimbursement package the shareholders voted it down
Then of course not being greedy they voted to bulge their own pockets by selling out to Shell?
While I would not necessarily believe a cap is the answer I do beleive there is a case to attach a maximum multiplier.
There is a lot of evidence to suggest the smaller gap between the top & bottom in some European companies has helped rahter than hindered their performance | | | |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:47 - Jan 10 with 1182 views | No9 |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:39 - Jan 10 by Lord_Lucan |
"It is the wealthy people like you who forget the wealth is actually created by the worker not the boardroom"
That's like a future ex wife demanding half of your business because she did some filing and typing. |
I have come across executives who could not even fill their cup let alone file anything | | | |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 11:48 - Jan 10 with 1185 views | Steve_M |
| Never go 'full-Corbyn' on 10:13 - Jan 10 by chicoazul |
Wage control. Always a huge vote winner. Good to see the tenets of North London faux-intellectual egalitarian dinner party Gramsci-Marxism live strong in Comrade Corbyn. Tories must be laughing their knobs off. |
Meanwhile he's failed to put any pressure on Jeremy Hunt whose incompetence and obliviousness to the mess he is responsible for continues. [Post edited 10 Jan 2017 11:55]
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