| I know public speaking isn't for everyone 14:50 - Oct 14 with 2235 views | homer_123 |
and it's isn't the main strength a PM needs but she is just so so bad - it really works against her doesn't it.
Stiff, robotic, insincere - there is nothing natural about her is there?
You don't listen to her and think 'credible' in any way. |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 14:52 - Oct 14 with 1921 views | jeera |
I couldn't bring myself to watch it.
You know what you're going to get and from the few posts I've seen on here already she obviously didn't exceed any expectations. |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 14:52 - Oct 14 with 1915 views | Geomorph |
seems like we've gone from one ridiculous extreme of the oratory spectrum, to the other |  | | |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:01 - Oct 14 with 1862 views | Dubtractor |
It's not the main strength needed, but it IS really important.
Everything you say is listened to by potentially millions - you almost need to be a salesman and sell what you're saying to everyone that does listen, otherwise this is what happens. It's exactly why Johnson was able to bring a lot of the country with him, despite everything. |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:02 - Oct 14 with 1856 views | bournemouthblue |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 14:52 - Oct 14 by Geomorph |
seems like we've gone from one ridiculous extreme of the oratory spectrum, to the other |
Boris was an alright speaker and was good at framing an argument in the way Joe Public could understand
When challenged, he soon crumbled, Starmer rinsed him in the commons fairly regularly but Joe Public isn't bothered by this
He's somehow created a persona where he could fail continuously and Joe Public on the street would lap up his eccentrically British bumbliness, putting it down as posh charm. It shows how blissfully ignorant vast swatches of the population are when it comes to politics to be quite frank.
Truss looks so out of her depth, it's amazing. When you look at her record, she truly has failed up.
The general feeling is whatever department she has been in, she's done a fairly poor job so why would it be any different as PM? [Post edited 14 Oct 2022 15:07]
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:12 - Oct 14 with 1767 views | J2BLUE |
Genuinely painful to watch.
All politicians talk rubbish but she just keeps parroting the same line. Incredibly arrogant. I hope she's gone very soon. |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:13 - Oct 14 with 1743 views | Ryorry |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:02 - Oct 14 by bournemouthblue |
Boris was an alright speaker and was good at framing an argument in the way Joe Public could understand
When challenged, he soon crumbled, Starmer rinsed him in the commons fairly regularly but Joe Public isn't bothered by this
He's somehow created a persona where he could fail continuously and Joe Public on the street would lap up his eccentrically British bumbliness, putting it down as posh charm. It shows how blissfully ignorant vast swatches of the population are when it comes to politics to be quite frank.
Truss looks so out of her depth, it's amazing. When you look at her record, she truly has failed up.
The general feeling is whatever department she has been in, she's done a fairly poor job so why would it be any different as PM? [Post edited 14 Oct 2022 15:07]
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The reason I didn't go into politics is that verbally, I lack the gift of the gab. Can see now that needn't have been a barrier!
BBC Business Editor on BBC1 a few mins ago talking about UK economics - "Liz Truss has removed a central plank from the UK economy" 😂 |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:14 - Oct 14 with 1743 views | jeera |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:12 - Oct 14 by J2BLUE |
Genuinely painful to watch.
All politicians talk rubbish but she just keeps parroting the same line. Incredibly arrogant. I hope she's gone very soon. |
If we ever get a normal person again for a PM we're not going to know what to do with ourselves. | |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:21 - Oct 14 with 1700 views | NthQldITFC |
I'm not sure if this has been picked up anywhere else yet, but having heard her usual waffle in the car on the way home, I noticed that her speech went along the lines of '[blah-blah] international situation [blah-blah] deliver growth' then "I want to be honest, this is difficult."
I don't know if she's just got crap speech writers or whether they did it deliberately, but if you take the double-quoted bit out of context, or replace the comma with a semi-colon, you come up with a truth which she is probably not very keen on admitting! |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:24 - Oct 14 with 1670 views | clive_baker |
It's not the main strength but it's certainly a massive one, as the front man / woman, its vital. So much of it is about how a PM is viewed domestically and internationally. They of course need the smarts to back up what they're saying and oversee a government, having the foresight to put the right people into the right roles. But so much is about how they present themselves and that's in a large part through their verbal communication. Truss is woeful. |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:25 - Oct 14 with 1661 views | giant_stow |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:37 - Oct 14 with 1581 views | davblue |
think the country is desperate for someone decent and honest as the PM.
Maybe that's impossible but these charlatans are awful. The Conservative party, what are they thinking, they obviously wanted a puppet fronting them up but as you say she's so awful at public speaking it's a no win situation. |  | | |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:54 - Oct 14 with 1453 views | Keno |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:37 - Oct 14 by davblue |
think the country is desperate for someone decent and honest as the PM.
Maybe that's impossible but these charlatans are awful. The Conservative party, what are they thinking, they obviously wanted a puppet fronting them up but as you say she's so awful at public speaking it's a no win situation. |
"think the country is desperate for someone decent and honest as the PM"
come on we dont want McKenna leaving Town yet |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:32 - Oct 14 with 1355 views | FrimleyBlue |
However. Energy drinking game is a lot of fun.
On average she must say the word energy at least 30 times per speech. |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:38 - Oct 14 with 1346 views | clive_baker |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:32 - Oct 14 by FrimleyBlue |
However. Energy drinking game is a lot of fun.
On average she must say the word energy at least 30 times per speech. |
When you said energy drinking game I thought for a second you meant energy drinks. You'll have a life expectancy shorter than a Tory chancellor on those things. | |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:41 - Oct 14 with 1336 views | azuremerlangus |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:37 - Oct 14 by davblue |
think the country is desperate for someone decent and honest as the PM.
Maybe that's impossible but these charlatans are awful. The Conservative party, what are they thinking, they obviously wanted a puppet fronting them up but as you say she's so awful at public speaking it's a no win situation. |
Doesn’t say much for a political party with a majority of 80ish seats if they cannot come up with an honest and competent leader. |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:43 - Oct 14 with 1326 views | jaykay |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:01 - Oct 14 by Dubtractor |
It's not the main strength needed, but it IS really important.
Everything you say is listened to by potentially millions - you almost need to be a salesman and sell what you're saying to everyone that does listen, otherwise this is what happens. It's exactly why Johnson was able to bring a lot of the country with him, despite everything. |
i hear this a lot about how good johnston was at speeches , all i ever heard when he spoke was errr, ummm, but, where was i etc. not that i listen a lot to that buffoon but can't remember any of his so called speeches. oh i forgot one ,i think it was about peppa pig |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:48 - Oct 14 with 1289 views | Dubtractor |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:43 - Oct 14 by jaykay |
i hear this a lot about how good johnston was at speeches , all i ever heard when he spoke was errr, ummm, but, where was i etc. not that i listen a lot to that buffoon but can't remember any of his so called speeches. oh i forgot one ,i think it was about peppa pig |
That's a fair observation, and tbh I think his gloss came off over time, so whereas in his earlier days as PM (and before that) he could be convincing, he was less so as time went on and people could see through his BS. | |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:55 - Oct 14 with 1256 views | BlueBadger |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:41 - Oct 14 by azuremerlangus |
Doesn’t say much for a political party with a majority of 80ish seats if they cannot come up with an honest and competent leader. |
The Tories haven't had one of those this century. |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:55 - Oct 14 with 1255 views | Chondzoresk |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 14:52 - Oct 14 by jeera |
I couldn't bring myself to watch it.
You know what you're going to get and from the few posts I've seen on here already she obviously didn't exceed any expectations. |
She was awful. Look at Obama's public speaking, he held everyone's attention. |  | | |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 17:12 - Oct 14 with 1229 views | Churchman |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:48 - Oct 14 by Dubtractor |
That's a fair observation, and tbh I think his gloss came off over time, so whereas in his earlier days as PM (and before that) he could be convincing, he was less so as time went on and people could see through his BS. |
I actually think Johnson was a pretty good public speaker overall. He engaged with his audience, did plenty of the basics and had a sort of charisma (poor word, but best I can find at the moment). Ok, it was mostly lies, fantasy, waffle, buffoonery and hope for the best, but when he spoke people tended to listen. Blair was an excellent public speaker, even when he was telling barefaced lies. He’s still good to this day. Cameron wasn’t the worst either.
May was poor but Truss plumbs the depths. There’s nothing about her delivery, body language, obviously content that says she wants to be there. Todays ramble was only short, but it was hard to listen to because in addition to missing the words ‘I resign’ she was so bad at it.
Like it or not, in their job public speaking is important in the 21st century. I wish it was all about just doing the job well, but it isn’t. Public speaking is hard. For some people it comes easily (e.g. Blair), for others they have to work at it and at best they’ll sound like speak your weight machines (Thatcher), but get the message out.
In a previous life I and my colleagues had to do presentations and I was ok with them, but boy did we have to work at it. Truss clearly hasn’t. I suspect her arrogance tells her she doesn’t need to. |  | | |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 17:18 - Oct 14 with 1215 views | clive_baker |
I'm not used to public squeaking. I piss pronunciate a lot of my worms. | |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 17:56 - Oct 14 with 1149 views | BlueBadger |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 15:01 - Oct 14 by Dubtractor |
It's not the main strength needed, but it IS really important.
Everything you say is listened to by potentially millions - you almost need to be a salesman and sell what you're saying to everyone that does listen, otherwise this is what happens. It's exactly why Johnson was able to bring a lot of the country with him, despite everything. |
The 'Lambert effect' in action. | |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 18:33 - Oct 14 with 1081 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:41 - Oct 14 by azuremerlangus |
Doesn’t say much for a political party with a majority of 80ish seats if they cannot come up with an honest and competent leader. |
They sacrificed their more honest and competent people on the altar of Brexit didn’t they. Not that there were many of them. |  |
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| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 18:34 - Oct 14 with 1079 views | jas0999 |
Isn’t it a main strength needed though? As PM she needs to at the very least speak publicly to reassure folk - even if it’s rubbish. Her lack of ability to speak in public is a real hinderance. |  | | |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 18:57 - Oct 14 with 1048 views | XYZ |
| I know public speaking isn't for everyone on 16:48 - Oct 14 by Dubtractor |
That's a fair observation, and tbh I think his gloss came off over time, so whereas in his earlier days as PM (and before that) he could be convincing, he was less so as time went on and people could see through his BS. |
Yeah, that one on 7 February 2020 in Greenwich about standing up for the economy by ignoring dangerous viruses and carrying on as normal was great. | | | |
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