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A derby that's not happening 08:55 - Jun 8 with 2628 viewsSharkey

Braintree in National league South and Bishop's Stortford in National League North.

(I'm sure Felixstowe fans will say 'tell us about it!)
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A derby that's not happening on 10:51 - Jun 8 with 2484 viewsmonty_radio

I suppose that a line has to be drawn somewhere. But as somebody who lived in that part of the world, good luck to Stortford getting out onto the A1 as they head north via the A507 through Buntingford and Baldock - a road that defies its category.

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A derby that's not happening on 11:03 - Jun 8 with 2428 viewsSaleAway

A derby that's not happening on 10:51 - Jun 8 by monty_radio

I suppose that a line has to be drawn somewhere. But as somebody who lived in that part of the world, good luck to Stortford getting out onto the A1 as they head north via the A507 through Buntingford and Baldock - a road that defies its category.


To be fair, if you're going north properly from there, as they will be, there's no reason not to use the M11 and new A14.

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A derby that's not happening on 11:05 - Jun 8 with 2419 viewsWeWereZombies

Should be ground sharing in Dunmow, shouldn't they ?

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A derby that's not happening on 14:15 - Jun 16 with 2128 viewsmonty_radio

A derby that's not happening on 11:03 - Jun 8 by SaleAway

To be fair, if you're going north properly from there, as they will be, there's no reason not to use the M11 and new A14.


Agreed - but perhaps not on a holiday weekend

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A derby that's not happening on 22:41 - Jun 16 with 2001 viewsBtreeBlueBlood

Any there’s Stansted FC

Moved out of the essex league to the midlands league!

They are looking off pulling out of all competitions!

They can’t afford the travels.

The National league south has 3 relegated teams from the national league and the north gets 1. Surely this is where the teams get put into each league- not kicking teams which are in each into another.
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A derby that's not happening on 09:23 - Jun 17 with 1844 viewsjontysnut

A derby that's not happening on 22:41 - Jun 16 by BtreeBlueBlood

Any there’s Stansted FC

Moved out of the essex league to the midlands league!

They are looking off pulling out of all competitions!

They can’t afford the travels.

The National league south has 3 relegated teams from the national league and the north gets 1. Surely this is where the teams get put into each league- not kicking teams which are in each into another.


550 mile round trip to Blyth Spartans. They'll probably play on a Tuesday night.
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A derby that's not happening on 11:37 - Jun 17 with 1751 viewsBtreeBlueBlood

A derby that's not happening on 09:23 - Jun 17 by jontysnut

550 mile round trip to Blyth Spartans. They'll probably play on a Tuesday night.


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A derby that's not happening on 11:55 - Jun 17 with 1741 viewsLesta_Tractor

A derby that's not happening on 22:41 - Jun 16 by BtreeBlueBlood

Any there’s Stansted FC

Moved out of the essex league to the midlands league!

They are looking off pulling out of all competitions!

They can’t afford the travels.

The National league south has 3 relegated teams from the national league and the north gets 1. Surely this is where the teams get put into each league- not kicking teams which are in each into another.


Problem is London teams isn't it?

Probably need National League North, South and London below the National League

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A derby that's not happening on 12:43 - Jun 17 with 1727 viewsAlanG296

A derby that's not happening on 22:41 - Jun 16 by BtreeBlueBlood

Any there’s Stansted FC

Moved out of the essex league to the midlands league!

They are looking off pulling out of all competitions!

They can’t afford the travels.

The National league south has 3 relegated teams from the national league and the north gets 1. Surely this is where the teams get put into each league- not kicking teams which are in each into another.


To clarify they've not been moved to the "midlands league", Stansted are moving to the Spartan South Midlands League, where they go to Herts Beds and Bucks. It's not as if they have to go to the other side of Birmingham!
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A derby that's not happening on 16:15 - Jun 17 with 1614 viewsblueprint

The northern clubs have it a lot easier in regional trophies like the Pizza cup.

Us southern based clubs can expect fixtures as far apart as Suffolk and Devon whereas geographical speaking the North is a lot more compact. (If that makes sense)
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A derby that's not happening on 22:33 - Jun 17 with 1479 viewsfarkenhell

A derby that's not happening on 12:43 - Jun 17 by AlanG296

To clarify they've not been moved to the "midlands league", Stansted are moving to the Spartan South Midlands League, where they go to Herts Beds and Bucks. It's not as if they have to go to the other side of Birmingham!
[Post edited 17 Jun 2023 14:26]


The team I played for in my youth (a few years ago ) played in the South Midlands League. My team were one of the most northernmost in the league and the most we had to travel was about 40 miles away. Not sure we'd have been that pleased with a trip to Stanstead though!
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A derby that's not happening on 22:39 - Jun 17 with 1454 viewsGeoffSentence

A derby that's not happening on 16:15 - Jun 17 by blueprint

The northern clubs have it a lot easier in regional trophies like the Pizza cup.

Us southern based clubs can expect fixtures as far apart as Suffolk and Devon whereas geographical speaking the North is a lot more compact. (If that makes sense)


As transport in England is basically configured North to South and generally either side of the Pennines, it almost makes more sense to have Eastern and Western regisons instead of North and South, were a lot of the travel will be cross country on the crap routes.

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A derby that's not happening on 09:41 - Jun 18 with 1317 viewsPinewoodblue

A derby that's not happening on 22:39 - Jun 17 by GeoffSentence

As transport in England is basically configured North to South and generally either side of the Pennines, it almost makes more sense to have Eastern and Western regisons instead of North and South, were a lot of the travel will be cross country on the crap routes.


Shouldn’t be drawing a line on a map at all. Should be based in average distance to other grounds in the league,

For exampleBishop Stortford is further north than Gloucester but I’m sure Stortford is further away from other northern teams than Gloucester.

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A derby that's not happening on 10:42 - Jun 18 with 1281 viewsTractorboy24

A derby that's not happening on 09:41 - Jun 18 by Pinewoodblue

Shouldn’t be drawing a line on a map at all. Should be based in average distance to other grounds in the league,

For exampleBishop Stortford is further north than Gloucester but I’m sure Stortford is further away from other northern teams than Gloucester.


But Gloucester City are in the Conference North too aren’t they? So that clearly is taken into account.

There is a map which shows the North/South divide for the Conference North/South and it shows why BS got put in the North a lot clearer. Seem to remember Lowestoft complaining about the travelling because they were put in the North when they got promoted. Think the East/West idea is a good option, but there will be problems when Cumbrian sides have to travel to Truro and BS would still have to play Blyth.

The non league system has become a lot more fluid in recent years, creating a 4 division step 3 which spread the travel better, and teams now are switched across those leagues to keep the geographical integrity rather than waiting for promotion & relegation to address it.
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A derby that's not happening on 21:37 - Jun 18 with 1131 viewsjontysnut

A derby that's not happening on 09:41 - Jun 18 by Pinewoodblue

Shouldn’t be drawing a line on a map at all. Should be based in average distance to other grounds in the league,

For exampleBishop Stortford is further north than Gloucester but I’m sure Stortford is further away from other northern teams than Gloucester.


When Gloucester travelled North for games they drove past Worcester who were in NL South.
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