didnt we get Campo in for experience??

WE didn't get Campo in for experience Jim Magilton didand the team out peformed their potential so id say it worked anyway lol
and i said this yesterderday on the original story... you cant compare Ivan Campo with Nicky Butt...

Where in these quotations does "Keane hint at possible Butt move"? He was asked if he was interested and said "we couldn't afford him." He agrees that Town need someone experienced "like him," but there is no indication that he is making a move.

Butt would be a great addition BUT he is similar to leadbitter and Norris , player style wise. We dont really need him unfortunately because I think his experience would be more than useful but he is a duplication.

He is getting on a bit, perhaps play him as sweeper - could Butt plug the defence?!

Butt is high profile - FACT

He won everything as a player at club level and was an England Regular.

Massive signing opportunity!

You have got to be joking! Agree with blue_floyd we need a creative midfielder.
Mind you the style of fottball we play at Portman road these days, nothing suprise me. Its like watching Blackburn play. We should be building a team, with young promising players from lower leauge not has beens, who will want big wages.

phat: sorry if I upset you, was maybe a bit strong. But your comment was "you can't buy experience". Err, yes you can. You didn't explain in any further detail - i.e. Ipswich would struggle to buy a player with this kind of experience for this kind of money etc etc (though he's probably on huge wages at the moment). You just said you can't buy experience.

Maybe I was being arsey and so for that I apologise.

Phil. Sitting in the University library writing my dissertation, that title has truly cheered me up. Classic.

Also, why would we NOT want him? He would bring experience to the side and he's just been part of a team who have dominated this league.

RK worries me.Thought he had made enough changes during past year,now talking of more.Our scouting system,does it exist?Players so far obtained have mostly failed so perhaps should change from bringing in players from Sunderland,former Man Utd and Irish players as 14th in Championship confirms.Besides think we have enough experience in the squad,and who was Towns best player on Saturday,a 17 year old.Only need one creative midfielder with a pace,similarly a wideman.As far as a strikers, dont forget we have three coming back from loans,none of whom have played with Connor as far as I know.Dont rate Murphy who has been tried with CW already.

On the sky sports story it says:

Of Keane and Ipswich's interest Butt was remaining coy, saying: "Maybe, yeah.

"Coaching is definitely something I want to do - I don't want to leave football. I've a few offers to play at other places."

How many times have we let in a late goal and lost points ? surley this would be a good player , maybe not to play all the time but when were leading with 20 minutes to go , nicky butt would fit in great .

I would take him along as a player / coach..

I don't understand the negativety on this one, I think he would be a good addition to the squad. And as for people saying he was a bench warmer at Newcastle, well he's 35 and look at the strength of their squad, so many Premiership quality players, they shouldn't have been in the Championship in the first place, many of out current squad would only get on the bench there when you think they have international class players from the likes of England and Argentina, when was the last time we saw players of that quality in the Championship? So don't slate the guy for not being a regular at his age and with the strength they have, he would probably only be a bench player here, but would provide valuable experience to a relatively young squad.

all this talk of defensive and holding midefielders and o he's not forward enough bla bla does my frickin head in...
Theres no such thing.. a central midfielder is a central midfielder if he's playing deep its coz hes been asked to lol im pretty sure nicky butt knows how to pass a ball and im also pretty sure newcastle went 2-1 up saturday because Butt was fouled in the area....
Just because a CM does not spend every second of the game running into the area like a headless chicken and scoring lots of penalty's like Tommy Miller or float about in the middle doing Jack all until someone gives him the ball to make a very sexy pass but ultimately the wrong choice of pass and then watch the opposition walk past you and score like Owen Garven does not mean that said CM is an ape who sits in the defence just picking people off.
theres no point Having a "creative CM" or asking CM's we have to be more forward thinking and creative if we dont have the wingers to create the space and feed their forward runs in the first place...DOH
As for wingers and this years failures its not the managers fault John walters has not been at his best on the wing its not his fault theat Civelli didnt come back just b4 Xmas as planned
you can say he should have bought someone better than Martin/Edwards Martin being seen more as "versatile" position wise when bought being that he was more a central player in midfield or behind a striker not a winger but its easy to say that now both were good buys for any championship team befor they had played a game and discovered poor form
Lee martin was pretty good in pre season i suspect the teams poor start in the league in general messed him up only next season will tell.

NO ! not the type of player we need . Too old now- also a second rate Scholes - tough ,clumsy, not fast enough ,rough tackles . Keane thinks it is all about grit and toughness - how about skill ?- imagination and fluent football .? It's Keane so I suppose not !

What a great signing he would be! And while we're at it, why not re-sign Micky Mills, Russell Osman, Johnny Wark and, as long as the ball was put on the spot, Ray Crawford, as he could probably still knock 1 or 2 in!
Let's hope there is absolutely no truth in this particular rumour.

sorry but not for me roy.

@KentBlue Keano has a point about turning us into a more physical/organised team. If you look at all the teams that are still in the Premier League after gaining promotion from the Championship they all play physical football i.e Stoke and Bolton come straight to mind. Arsenal play fancy football and havent won anything in 5 years! Football changes and we are very much following Italy's style of workman like football.

Blueknight85, you generally make a lot of sense, most of your posts I've seen have been of a good rational quality, but I have to disagree with you on the 'a midfielder is a midfielder' comment. Look at midfielders like Paul Scholes, central midfielder yes but an out and out attacking player, you'd think Fergie had gone mad if he asked him to play a holding role with his tackling ability. Mascherano being the example of a holding midfielder, tackling and passing the ball around is what he does best, you wouldn't want him trying spectacular runs and taking too many shots. And Xavi at Barca is the ultimate example of a creative midfielder, good, but not great at tackling, very good but not great at running on the ball but the ultimate player in holding the ball up and making the killer pass. So just a few examples of players who in my opinion fit the different criteria of midfield players. Sorry mate not picking on you just disagreed with your comment that's all!

@Buryblue classically Holding Midfielders are great at long shots i.e Ze Roberto, Seedorf, Essien, Davids, Hargreaves etc. I agree that midfielders play different roles and excel in certain roles. Usually to get to that standard of playing midfielders focus on either attack or defense and work on it.

i hope he brings his zimmer frame

wadzillaBhoy: that's my worry. Bolton and Stoke are bloody awful to watch. If that's what we have to do to get promoted and stay up then I don't want it. I'm a Town fan, but I'm also a fan of football - which is what Town fans have been brought up on anyway - and Bolton and Stoke do not play football that I want to watch.

Oh and to criticise Arsenal for not winning anything for 5 years is ridiculous. They have consistently finished in the top 4, got to european cup finals, lead the league until the final weeks and all by playing football that's great to watch. Hardly a terrible failure. It's not all about trophies you know. At the end of the day we watch 23 or more games a season and the end result is nice but if we have to watch 23 games of awful football to win a trophy then frankly I'm not interested.

Oh, and BlueKnight, clearly all central midfielders are not the same. Crazy comment. Norris and Garvan for example are wildly different players but both bring something important to the midfield (even if you think Garvan is rubbish/over-rated/wimpy etc etc).

i dont see the problem with POTENTIALLY (only a rumour) signing nicky butt. we have leadbitter and norris, colback is on his way back to sunderland and the futures of trotter, healy, quinn and even garvan are still up in the air.
so, i can see roy looking to strengthen the midfeild, if he brings in two central midfielders then i would think he'd look at one young, creative, perhaps more attack minded player and one with experience to balance the squad and add a bit of steel, without breaking the bank. now, IF we can get butt AND at a reasonable price, then he would be a good addittion to the team, not a regular, not our marquee signing but a very decent player with experience of playing at the very highest level. if any other club had been linked with butt, theyd be happy, especially with the possibility of him staying at the club in some coaching capacity. hardly a campo-esque deal (big money paid to a player with little to offer).
cant see where some town fans have got this sense of entitlement from making them deem every player were linked with as 'not good enough'.

@Naa Chelsea play workman football and look at them, Champions of the Premier League. I know what you are saying about its not all about trophies but in order for us to get promotion we have to work towards a trophy (either champions or Playoff trophy). I loved the football we played under Burley and I must say any true football fan likes to see good football but all Im saying is English football is evolving (we are following the Italian football style) and my point about Arsenal was that they play nice football, have a great squad and get nowhere. We dont have anywhere near the great squad they have. So if we play good football next season get promoted we dont stand any chance playing the same way in the Prem. Just look at WBA under Mogga they liked to play good football but their squad was lacking. Football is a much more defensive based game nowadays. Most small teams make up for their skill by being organised but whos to say after establishing themselves in the Prem, earning more money buying better players the standard of football improves. The most important thing for a Championship team is promotion and survival, after that anything is a bonus.

Wadzillabhoy, yes indeed I stand corrected, what I meant was you don't want them in and around the penalty area too much leaving their natural first line of defence area exposed, but yes they would obviously have a very good long shot owing to their nature of lying deep, just saying that not every midfielder can play 'all over' the midfield. Tommy Miller, attacking midfielder, good in his first spell with us, often played in a deeper role by Magilton on his return, which didn't suit him.