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Milne: We Must Bring Back Younger Fans
Friday, 17th Mar 2017 06:30

Town managing director Ian Milne says the club and football in general have work to do to encourage younger fans to watch live games with the Blues focusing on youth with their 2017/18 season ticket strategy.

“Currently the average age of football supporters attending games is 41,” Milne told TWTD.

“The industry is facing a demographic time bomb, so we need to reverse that trend and make provision for younger supporters or risk empty stadiums.

“There is also statistical evidence to back up the belief that football used to be something that young people did on their own.

“Back in the 1970s, the average age of those in home stands was 17. We certainly recognise that the rise in age profile has a lot to do with cost and the high cost of tickets for the young is not the surest way to reclaim the youth market.

“So, we need more young fans to join us at Portman Road and thus we’ve put in place an under-23 ticketing strategy for next season at affordable prices.

“For those under 19 in education, they get tickets priced at just under £5 per game with a season ticket, that would catch all those at secondary school and at college starting a traineeship or apprenticeship.

“Under-23s, who are just out of education or an apprenticeship, are able to attend for just £10 a game with a season ticket.

“We’ve also introduced an under-12s season ticket at £50 but with reward points, which means the cost could come down to just £4 per season.

“It is very much focused on getting young people back to watch professional football matches, hopefully as a group.”

The Blues have seen a drop-off of fans in the under-23 group of 17 per cent over the last two years, as well as a reduction in numbers once fans hit 16.

“I’ve a graph which shows it went back over seven years,” added Milne, who held a review of ticketing in December, particularly the reduction in younger fans. “It is a steep reduction. And it’s not just an Ipswich Town issue, it’s a wider issue.”

Milne says the club will also be working with schools and the university as they look to increase the number of young supporters, who he also hopes will persuade older members of their families to join them at matches.

“I think we’ve got a good cost strategy to go to the university and the schools to say, let’s try and get dad along as well," he continued.

“I also make a point that at the ground we’ve got good stewards, they’re all trained for the kids and how to deal with them, the safe-guarding aspects of it.

“It’s a relatively safe atmosphere for young kids to come and watch football matches with a few mates.”

Milne says he can empathise with fans, frustrated after a disappointing season, who might feel that the club doesn’t deserve the 1.5 per cent increase on the adult season ticket price.

“It’s in line with the strategy set out at New Year by the owner [Marcus Evans],” he added.


“That is to have careful management of the club’s annual budget, where that budget is spent and how the club is to raise revenue to meet its investment priorities of focusing on the academy, having a competitive wage structure and a careful use of our transfer budget on developing players.

“There was a lot of discussion internally with regard to adult ticket prices, with the owner. He felt we needed to fall in line with his strategy and that’s where we are.

“Hopefully our discussions have managed to keep the increase, which is just under RPI, at a reasonable level.

“But on top of that there’s a sales target of 12,750 season tickets. If that is hit, then there will be a five per cent refund, and that applies to everybody, concessionary, adult, under-23s. However they’ve bought their season ticket they’ll get a five per cent refund. And I think we’ve set it at a reasonable level given where we are with sales.”

With this year’s season ticket total just under 12,200, is he confident that the target will be reached?

“I hope so,” he said. “I can’t bet on football but I hope so. I think we’ve set a realistic target, it’s lower than the total was in 2014/15 and 2015/16, so it’s not unachievable.”

While there is a widespread expectation that season ticket renewals are likely to fall, Milne hopes the cheaper tickets for younger fans will more than make up for that drop.

“I think it’s quite reasonable given the competitive pricing we’ve put in place,” he said.

“We’re the first ones to understand that the reality is that if you don’t play entertaining football you’re going to lose fans and that will have an effect on the season tickets, and maybe this small increase will also have an effect.

“But we hope people will understand that we’re trying to put on entertaining football. And also, with the investment in the FanZone and other things we’re trying to do, we’re trying very hard to provide an entertaining product.”

Fans have expressed their dissatisfaction with manager Mick McCarthy throughout the campaign with some having said they won’t renew their season tickets while he’s still at the club. What’s Milne's message to them?

“You’ve reported what Mick has said, he’s going to review his position along with the budget and the players with Marcus at the end of the season.

“That’s the right way of going about things and we look forward to hearing those discussions as well because it’s got to be between the owner and the manager to discuss and agree what the way forward is.

“At the end of the day, we want entertaining football, I want what the fan wants, we all want what the fan wants, we all want to come and see entertaining, winning football. One, because we like seeing it, but also it makes our jobs easier as well.

“Off the field, we’re working on things like the FanZone and what else we can add to that entertainment value for the fans to keep them coming along.

“I keep harking back to the under-23 strategy, we want to get those young ones back to enjoy the football here.”

While the official attendance takes in all tickets sold for a game, many Portman Road crowds have been significantly lower than those figures this season and in some cases around 4,000 season ticket holders have stayed away from midweek matches, TWTD understands.

“You and I don’t know personally why they didn’t come but we do understand the reality of entertaining football and it is winning games which will get the fans back,” Milne said.

In addition to performances on the field and the Blues’ probable finish in lower mid-table, fans have also expressed their frustrations regarding the budget owner Evans has made available to McCarthy.

How would Milne respond to supporters who might ask why they should put their money in if they don’t feel Evans is contributing as much as he might?

“We drew up some figures on the playing squad year on year,” he added. “Three seasons ago the playing squad spend went up by 17 per cent, then two years ago it went up by a further seven per cent and is currently up a further eight per cent.

“All the other costs and spends have been static at around nought per cent. That bill’s got to be filled from somewhere.”

However, some other Championship clubs - several without parachute payments - are spending very significantly more than that.

“I appreciate that, some owners are prepared to spend more and some aren’t prepared to spend what we’re spending.

“Our playing squad wage bill is now up to £13.3 million, three years ago it was £11.5 million, so it has been going up.”

Town’s overall wage bill was £16.5 million last year and will climb to £17.5 million this season.

Last summer Huddersfield dropped their adult season ticket price to £179 and sold 15,000 seats. Did Town look at adopting a similar approach?

“We did, it’s also to do with where we are the table and what have you. Dean Hoyle up there, the owner, took quite a big risk in doing it. We understood why he did it.

“The owner here wasn’t prepared to go to that extreme and also I think different clubs, different regions have different types of fans as well.

“It’s very important that we try and keep our fans in the way we think is appropriate to Suffolk and to this part of the country.

“I think he was coming from a different perspective. I don’t know how much their spend is at Huddersfield but I think it’s quite a considerable amount of money he’s putting into it.”

In his notes in the season ticket pack which will be posted from Thursday 23rd March, McCarthy concedes that he has work to do to repair his relationship with supporters during the remaining nine games of the season.

“I’m the first to admit that his season has not gone as well as any of us would have hoped and I’ll sit down with TC and the staff at the end of the season and analyse why that has been the case," he wrote.

“The challenge for us is always to finish the season as high as we possibly can. The January transfer window has helped us, with the players we brought in freshening the place up and giving everyone a boost.

“Results and performances have certainly improved since then, although we have not picked up as many wins as we deserved to in that time.

“Good performances will help build bridges with you, the supporters, and we know we’ve got to do that. Our relationship with you is vital. We have got to work at it so you feel good about the team and the club.

“That’s what we will continue to do because we all want the same thing - a successful Ipswich Town Football Club."

Milne will be talking more about season tickets on the Mark Murphy show on BBC Radio Suffolk at 7.40am this morning.

You can see full details of Town’s season ticket pricing for 2017/18 on the club site here.


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BullardsMagicMullet added 09:09 - Mar 17
What a great idea make it more appealing to the younger fans, but put up the prices of the people who have to bring them is commercial suicide.

We have a faceless owner and soon will be a faceless ground, how clever to put out the new pricing when we have no game until April the 1st, which is pretty adapt as Evans is making fools of every supporter who follows.

Another season of status quo penny pinching, cut price transfers and boring hoofball beckons.

Oh the joy!
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LWNR2013 added 09:21 - Mar 17
Get them to bring Dad along....FCOL ... that,ll work!
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brittaniaman added 09:33 - Mar 17
No wonder the wage bill has gone up Dino has brought in several average players who do not even make the squad let alone play, and to think the club are still paying wages for Coke, Best, Douglas,who I do not think will play for us again but still on contract.
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BrettenhamBlue added 09:33 - Mar 17
My 2 nephews no longer support the club as they found it embarrassing to admit they support us. Start making the younger fans feel proud of supporting the team. Yearly cup eliminations to lower league teams and no derby victory since April 2009? Awful, mind-numbing football on display? Some players signed who would look more comfortable in a non-league or Sunday league team? Game after game seeing unbelievable saves by Bialkowski? It's not entertainment.
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Pencilpete added 09:53 - Mar 17
It's all very well targeting the younger fan but I have actually missed games this season because my 9 year old daughter doesn't want to go and actually came out with the line

"it's boring, nothing ever happens"

2 years ago me and my wife used to take the little one and make a family day of it now, little one doesn't want to go cos she gets bored and my wife doesn't want to go because I get frustrated and spend the rest of the weekend in a bad mood (her words - not mine)

What ITFC can do is probably nothing to do with ticket prices, they can stop playing 7 at the back and actually try and score sometimes !!!!!
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Mark added 10:07 - Mar 17
I am all for encouraging young people to come, although would note they are more likely to buy match tickets at first than season tickets. However, if the football is dull, defensive long ball with only one or two shots on target they will not return whatever the price.

I am surprised at the 1.5% increase. Premium price for watching free transfers and loans on below-average wages for the league.

I will return next season, but I know many thousands won't and that is so sad. Look for a new buyer if you can't or won't fund the club Marcus Evans.
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TownOnTheUp added 10:25 - Mar 17
This leapt out when I read the bit about them rejecting the idea of lowering prices - "It's very important that we try and keep our fans in the way we think is appropriate to Suffolk and to this part of the country."

Does anyone have the slightest clue what this means? I mean I can translate it into something along the lines of 'we're gambling that the fans are idiots who will pay anything, or at least enough of them will be', but assuming he was trying to say something more constructive than that, what would that have been?
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MicksZzzTactics added 10:33 - Mar 17
Ian Milne = Ultra Deluded 'Snake Oil Salesman' Extraordinaire!


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stevelincsexile added 10:48 - Mar 17
My son and I are prime examples of what will happen at town. The last few seasons we have made the 300+ miles round trip on a regular basis but this season my son has been so dissoluntioned that he has only been twice and will not go again until our style of football changes which means I do not go as I am not prepared to travel that distance alone so 2 supporters are lost. We can't the management see what is happening?😂😂
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essextractorboy93 added 10:51 - Mar 17
Follow what Huddersfield did! Look how successful that has been. Milne is so out of touch its unreal, he just comes out with absolute nonsense again and again and nobody buys it, we are going backwards. Completely deluded and out of touch with fans. Its all about the money and thats all he and the owner care about, they do not care for the fans at all. Seriously considering not renewing next season and Ive been going for 18 years.
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IpswichToon added 11:03 - Mar 17
This is an absolute joke. We already have the most expensive season ticket available in the Championship, one of only two clubs IN THE COUNTRY charging in excess of £30 for away tickets, have one the most empty stadium averages (what is it? around 54% attendance now?). My personal situation is that I'm lucky enough to have a well paying job and have a bit of surplus funds, yet I don't feel like I can justify spending the sorts of money being charged by Ipswich to go watch them on a regular basis. With this price hike, I'll be making a point not to go to any home games at all next season.
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Bergholtblue added 11:13 - Mar 17
Whilst I am all for encouraging youngsters back in the game, just making it cheaper for them, won't necessarily work.

Football is everywhere at the moment on TV. This week alone I have watched The Champions League Tuesday and Wednesday and the Europa League Thursday. The way to get the youngsters back is to make the football attractive so that they want to come, not just because its cheap!

Milne also seems to not have had a thought about who brings these youngsters. I was looking forward to my reduced price next season and to bring my Grandson, now I am going to have to wait another 5 years! So that's one youngster he has missed out on.
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LWNR2013 added 13:15 - Mar 17
Essextractor......too late. They've had the board meeting. Come Aug when they have the tally and set budget to match. 4000 st holders miss midweek matches - and who cares as seats are paid for. Nasty day.
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martin587 added 13:46 - Mar 17
Just watched an interview with the CEO on BBC lunch time news,and when asked the question about the dire football and encouraging the young supporters back all he could say was "we have introduced the Fanzone",but what good is that.We want to watch entailing Football.I give up.!!
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martin587 added 13:53 - Mar 17
Entertaining football.!!
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runningout added 14:10 - Mar 17
Hard not to be critical.. put off my daughter being a mascot due to price I pay.. Not a great start. So, other clubs do it, so what!
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pragmatic added 14:11 - Mar 17
WHILST MANY OF YOU WILL "NEVER GO AGAIN" & THATS YOUR CHOICE, & I CAN SEE REASONS WHY, I WILL RENEW ON THE BASIS THAT I SUPPORT THE CLUB/TEAM WHOEVER IS MANAGER/OWNER ETC
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runningout added 14:22 - Mar 17
Better person than me
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OldClactonBlue added 14:25 - Mar 17
First we must get rid of you, Evans and McCarthy.
Then if the right choices are made the rest will take care of itself!
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truckertractorboy added 14:50 - Mar 17
Heard your interview on radio suffolk Ian u trully are just marcus evans puppet
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PortmanTerrorist added 14:51 - Mar 17
Kids see things in black and white......not all have blue tinted spectacles. What 12 year old wants to sit on warped plastic seating, in freezing cold and rain (as family section is of course exposed to elements), and watch such utterly depressing fare as we have been served this season.

Milne is as out of touch as his predecessor, his boss, and the manager he supports. Stop the BS and start investing.......in the management, the playing staff, the quality of our stadium, the matchday experience. OR talk a load of rubbish and get TWTD to promote it for you.

You guys at TWTD may love the Club, but i would suggested filling your page with this kind of rubbish from Milne will only further damage the Club and not help at all. We may be blinded by our love for our Club but that does not make us utter fools.
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Bluetone added 15:29 - Mar 17
Let's consider these youngsters you are trying to entice into becoming Town supporters. On television they see football with slick passing moments the ball passed with precision they see possession football they see entertaining football and then they practice tricks seen on TV. They see decent levels of football played by other youngsters including our own academy youth.

Why the flippin' heck would they want to part with large sums of money to watch McCarthy's abysmal hoofball They have no or little history of supporting Town and there are many, many other distractions for them to spend their money on. To attract them to support Town you have to give them entertaining football and a team to be proud of for their performances now not in the past that might keep some of the old stagers loyal but will not attract new youngsters.

Hey if you re-introduce entertaining football you might even get some of those who have, or intend to, ditched their season ticket renewal.

We need a new manager who believes in proper football not proper blokes and it is abundantly clear that man is NOT McCarthy.
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Bluetone added 15:41 - Mar 17
@ Pragmatic definition of pragmatic "dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations." Perhaps you should change your user name to dogmatic.
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battyblue added 17:17 - Mar 17
Its the crap football being played thats driving people away you are all idiots if you think any youngster wants to come and watch the crap being dished up by mr i am the greatest Mick McCarthy with his team of proper blokes,dont you lot talk to the fans or just stick two fingers up i didn't really need to ask that question did i......MM out and get a director who understands football fans will pay to be entertained but not to be bored senseless week in week out with Dinos tactics.And start telling it as it is lying about attendances just to dress things up just about sums up town under this marcus Evans crew.
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blue75 added 18:50 - Mar 17
There was a similar problem in the early 90's then like now the football was long and dull!! Burley brought fans back to Portman Road with his style of play which was done on a strict budget. Mr Milne you won't get real fans back by winning alone, a change of manager is needed to bring back the style of football that real Ipswich fans expect!!
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