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Andy Burnham watch .... on 15:21 - Sep 17 with 135 views

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Andy Burnham watch .... on 14:16 - Sep 17 by SuperKieranMcKenna

As one of the more balanced and less hysterical posters, how do you square the ECHR conclusion that there WAS a ln issue with antisemitism in the party to the point where it could be seen to be accepted? I think once you (plural - not you literally) start ignoring independent institutions who are there to uphold our rights, whilst merely offering opinion pieces to challenge, it becomes a little Trumpian. And there are few more impartial people than hope not hate - whom a former poster accused of smearing him and being part of the establishment (yeah he slipped into quite the 4Chan descent into ludicrous stuff).

[Post edited 17 Sep 14:23]

By posting this, I wasn't trying to suggest that there wasn't an issue with antisemitism in the Labour party, only that I agree that Jeremy Corbyn personally was the most smeared politician of my lifetime.

I suppose I came at this with some personal involvement. I was secretary of my local Labour party during the Corbyn years. I didn't vote for him and for the first couple of years was not a great fan partly because he was not leadership material and partly because I was taken in by misinformation in the media and especially from MPs in his own party.

As secretary though, I acted impartially because I thought it was my role to take a neutral role in relation to both sides of the local party.

It was during that 2017 election campaign that I began to realise that most of the things in the media and elsewhere about Corbyn were based on half-truths at best, and I began to feel a large degree of sympathy for him particularly given how well Labour did in that election.

I suppose from then on I saw him as the plucky outsider, and fell for the supposed British trait of supporting the underdog.

As it is, I hadn't really intended to get involved in another Corbyn thread, but I just felt compelled to do when I saw this thread trot out the odd tired trope about him.

I might conclude by saying that being taken in by the misinformation about Corbyn (probably in part because it reflected my lack of confidence in Corbyn) made me decide from then on to always question everything.

[Post edited 17 Sep 15:40]

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