| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) 14:51 - Nov 9 with 2914 views | MaySixth |
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| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 19:55 - Nov 12 | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 19:28 - Nov 12 by TripSwitch |
Alex Palmer is an absolutely bog standard old school type Championship keeper. Nothing wrong with that, he is somewhat solid but at this level and with how O Neil wants to play he is not the answer. He is someone to come for a short period of time in the scenario CW and KS be out injured.
And for those moaning about Waltons ability using his feet, Palmer is far far worse, looks totally uncomfortable playing out, hes not that type of keeper. |
In case anyone like me has got lost in this thread, below is what we are working with. Maybe Van Oevelen is the answer, who knows.
• Kjell Scherpen (Age 26) – No. 37
• Alex Palmer (Age 30) – No. 1 (The irony)
• Christian Walton (Age 30) – No. 28
• David Button (Age 37) – No. 27
• Kayne van Oevelen (Age 22) – No. 31
• Cieran Slicker (Age 24) – No. 13 (currently on loan at Barnsley) |  | | |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 04:22 - Nov 13 | michaeldownunder |
I thought between O'Shea and Walton they played themselves into trouble, the pass back to Walton was on the wrong foot to make a clearance apart from giving away a corner what was Walton supposed to do ? |  | | |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 06:55 - Nov 13 | RetroBlue |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 04:22 - Nov 13 by michaeldownunder |
I thought between O'Shea and Walton they played themselves into trouble, the pass back to Walton was on the wrong foot to make a clearance apart from giving away a corner what was Walton supposed to do ? |
It would help if O'Shea was played in his correct CB right side position. I doubt the error would have happened if he were. He doesnt look comfortable playing the ball with his left foot. He chose to use his right foot and played it back to Walton,putting the keeper under pressure |  |
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| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 06:58 - Nov 13 | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 06:55 - Nov 13 by RetroBlue |
It would help if O'Shea was played in his correct CB right side position. I doubt the error would have happened if he were. He doesnt look comfortable playing the ball with his left foot. He chose to use his right foot and played it back to Walton,putting the keeper under pressure |
I don't understand why coaches try to make these changes that rarely work, ALWAYS play the player in the best position that they know best and have trained for the last however many season and in DOS case probably 20 years. | | | |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 07:15 - Nov 13 | TownieRob |
This feels like groundhog day. |  | | |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 07:25 - Nov 13 | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 06:55 - Nov 13 by RetroBlue |
It would help if O'Shea was played in his correct CB right side position. I doubt the error would have happened if he were. He doesnt look comfortable playing the ball with his left foot. He chose to use his right foot and played it back to Walton,putting the keeper under pressure |
Agree about playing players in their best position. But let's be clear, Walton was not put under any great pressure with that back pass. It was Walton's mistake, he had ample time to kick it long or out to Diop.
That said, I still think Walton is the best of the keepers we have available as of now. Everyone makes mistakes, Walton was at fault for that and in the previous game for the free kick at Hull where we conceded. These are not difficult - he positioned himself badly for the Hull Free kick, and should have cleared the backpass v Bournemouth. It's understandable when a really good strike or clever play beats a keeper, and those are the goals we should and will be conceding. But Those two errors just gifted points to the opposition, and Christian needs to use his noggin more and cut out those avoidable errors. I'm sure he knows this.
Christian has a few games before KVO can come back, and needs to show that he has his brain fully switched on - any more errors like that and he should lose his place. In other words, last chance saloon over the next few games. |  |
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| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 07:38 - Nov 13 | Bluemike31 |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 07:25 - Nov 13 by LegendofthePhoenix |
Agree about playing players in their best position. But let's be clear, Walton was not put under any great pressure with that back pass. It was Walton's mistake, he had ample time to kick it long or out to Diop.
That said, I still think Walton is the best of the keepers we have available as of now. Everyone makes mistakes, Walton was at fault for that and in the previous game for the free kick at Hull where we conceded. These are not difficult - he positioned himself badly for the Hull Free kick, and should have cleared the backpass v Bournemouth. It's understandable when a really good strike or clever play beats a keeper, and those are the goals we should and will be conceding. But Those two errors just gifted points to the opposition, and Christian needs to use his noggin more and cut out those avoidable errors. I'm sure he knows this.
Christian has a few games before KVO can come back, and needs to show that he has his brain fully switched on - any more errors like that and he should lose his place. In other words, last chance saloon over the next few games. |
Exactly this. | | | |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 08:12 - Nov 13 | grow_our_own |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 00:40 - Nov 11 by BlueForYou |
He injured himself against Charlton I think it was, he wasn’t dropped, then Walton took his chance. That night turned our season. From my poor memory didn’t Kipre & Furlong come in after that game? Palmer was sound & competent but unspectacular. |
This. Walton was among the best performing keepers in the Championship last season: https://www.fotmob.com/en-GB/l
and was one of the reasons we're in the PL. 1st of Jan at midnight, we should recall KVO. Need at least one new-gen goalkeeper. Experience/age is extremely over-rated during this transition to ball-playing sweeper-keepers. Many older "pedigree" keepers don't have the right skill-set anymore. [Post edited 13 Nov 8:20]
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| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 08:51 - Nov 13 | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 19:55 - Nov 12 by WolfieAtTheBack |
In case anyone like me has got lost in this thread, below is what we are working with. Maybe Van Oevelen is the answer, who knows.
• Kjell Scherpen (Age 26) – No. 37
• Alex Palmer (Age 30) – No. 1 (The irony)
• Christian Walton (Age 30) – No. 28
• David Button (Age 37) – No. 27
• Kayne van Oevelen (Age 22) – No. 31
• Cieran Slicker (Age 24) – No. 13 (currently on loan at Barnsley) |
Wow Slicker is 24 now? Surely time for a permanent move for him, looks too good to be 5th choice for us and he’s out of prospect age now (albeit still young for a keeper).
Personally I’d give Sherpen a run, he maybe could have done a little better, but didn’t have any howlers to the extent of Walton. Maybe Kayne has a recall option, if so they need to activate it and send him somewhere for game time. | | | |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 08:55 - Nov 13 | Metal_Hacker |
The bits I saw of van Oevelen in pre-season I thought he was going to be our number one
He looked quality to be fair but ...what do I know [Post edited 13 Nov 8:56]
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| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 09:15 - Nov 13 | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Why not Alex Palmer? (n/t) on 08:51 - Nov 13 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Wow Slicker is 24 now? Surely time for a permanent move for him, looks too good to be 5th choice for us and he’s out of prospect age now (albeit still young for a keeper).
Personally I’d give Sherpen a run, he maybe could have done a little better, but didn’t have any howlers to the extent of Walton. Maybe Kayne has a recall option, if so they need to activate it and send him somewhere for game time. |
Out of the 6 on the books we know 5 of them are not premier league level.
There are two very basic options here.
1. Change the tactic for the GK not to pass out from the back.
2, Buy another goalie in January and hope that works.
We have tried 2, so maybe it is time to try 1 then revisit the whole debacle end of season. | | | |
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