An interesting point of view on isolation on 12:53 - May 3 with 610 views | Darth_Koont | Certainly deserving of a more robust debate. Much of this is borne out in smaller countries like Iceland and Singapore that have been able to test and confirm several thousand cases but where death totals are measured at 10 and 16 respectively. However these are two countries already renowned for the best healthcare provision in the world. The issue in other countries and especially major cities like New York, London etc. is that the healthcare provision doesn't stretch to a mass outbreak. So managing local overload will be tricky for a long time yet even if the infection fatality rate is overall low. Also think Germany is very interesting given the low fatality rate despite comparable numbers of confirmed cases. There's a suggestion that we're also seeing different strains have different overall effects. | |
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An interesting point of view on isolation on 13:05 - May 3 with 583 views | Radlett_blue |
An interesting point of view on isolation on 12:53 - May 3 by Darth_Koont | Certainly deserving of a more robust debate. Much of this is borne out in smaller countries like Iceland and Singapore that have been able to test and confirm several thousand cases but where death totals are measured at 10 and 16 respectively. However these are two countries already renowned for the best healthcare provision in the world. The issue in other countries and especially major cities like New York, London etc. is that the healthcare provision doesn't stretch to a mass outbreak. So managing local overload will be tricky for a long time yet even if the infection fatality rate is overall low. Also think Germany is very interesting given the low fatality rate despite comparable numbers of confirmed cases. There's a suggestion that we're also seeing different strains have different overall effects. |
Indeed, densely populated cities need to be dealt with differently, especially with regard to public transport. But we have to start somewhere. | |
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An interesting point of view on isolation on 14:12 - May 3 with 555 views | Guthrum | To summarise: The headline figures say it's mostly the old and the sick dying of Covid-19, so lock them up and the rest of us can get on with making money and living our lives. Plus the "everybody should catch it, to get immunity" line. | |
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An interesting point of view on isolation on 14:18 - May 3 with 546 views | Radlett_blue |
An interesting point of view on isolation on 14:12 - May 3 by Guthrum | To summarise: The headline figures say it's mostly the old and the sick dying of Covid-19, so lock them up and the rest of us can get on with making money and living our lives. Plus the "everybody should catch it, to get immunity" line. |
Yes, that's the executive summary. However, it seems to ignore the important point that the lock-down is causing huge collateral harm, some of which is quantifiable & some not. e.g. people are no longer seeking care for other medical conditions, many of which are life threatening & require urgent treatment. All countries also need an exit strategy before the governments run out of money & services have to be cut further. | |
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An interesting point of view on isolation on 14:28 - May 3 with 542 views | Guthrum |
An interesting point of view on isolation on 14:18 - May 3 by Radlett_blue | Yes, that's the executive summary. However, it seems to ignore the important point that the lock-down is causing huge collateral harm, some of which is quantifiable & some not. e.g. people are no longer seeking care for other medical conditions, many of which are life threatening & require urgent treatment. All countries also need an exit strategy before the governments run out of money & services have to be cut further. |
Altho quite a lot of that collateral can be removed without easing the lockdown. For example, cancer treatments. The decks were cleared so thoroughly for the expected Covid surge that some treatments were cut. With the surge not having risen as high as feared and now beginning to recede, they can be brought back on line. May need a bit of extra funding (e.g. to get bank staff in), but money is cheaper than lives. Sick people not going into hospital is a matter of fear. That fear can be dealt with by increasing public trust (tho the government are possibly not the best people to do that, in the present climate). By creating a separation between Covid and non-Covid patients, even if that means travelling a bit further for your routine tratment. It's actually quite difficult for governments to run out of money. Especially those wealthy enough to service debt and with good credit ratings, even more so places like the UK who can issue debt in their own currency. | |
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