| Afghanistan. 07:30 - Feb 7 with 404 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/feb/06/the-us-economic-war-on-afghanis
"Afghanistan’s new rulers did not have an economic plan in August, and still don’t six months on. To an extent, they don’t need, one because they have a ready-made alibi: the economy is a mess because the Americans decided to make it so. There is not the slightest evidence that impoverishing the Afghan people is bringing regime change any closer. What it is doing is ensuring mass unemployment and widespread poverty: the perfect conditions to breed terrorism and generate an exodus of refugees.
Biden has an obvious problem. It wouldn’t be a great look for the White House to go soft after so many American lives were lost in a two-decade war that ended in failure. It is hard, though, to escape the conclusion that there would have been a lot more fuss had Donald Trump won the election in 2020 and been pursuing the same policy."
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| Afghanistan. on 10:41 - Feb 7 with 302 views | monytowbray |
Trump is largely responsible for the mess though. Made the deal that gave the Taliban a date to start taking back control knowing the forces battling them would p1ss off. Trump also continually screamed of how great this move was, and Biden was damned either way, date stuck to or not.
But 20 years of a war we were arguably losing (if not held in a strong stalemate) is 2 decades of failure from the entire political establishment. Bush’s ego launching into Iraq to win his father’s approval and deflect from the Saudi 9/11 connections didn’t help for spreading forces thin. It’s another Vietnam.
Go back even further and much of this miss STILL stems from things the USA did in the 1950s with their corporate involvement in building water supplies in Afghanistan.
The Middle East is unstable because the West and the Soviets made it unstable. A United Arab State sat on that much oil is a threat to all global power. |  |
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| Afghanistan. on 11:21 - Feb 7 with 285 views | Guthrum |
| Afghanistan. on 10:41 - Feb 7 by monytowbray |
Trump is largely responsible for the mess though. Made the deal that gave the Taliban a date to start taking back control knowing the forces battling them would p1ss off. Trump also continually screamed of how great this move was, and Biden was damned either way, date stuck to or not.
But 20 years of a war we were arguably losing (if not held in a strong stalemate) is 2 decades of failure from the entire political establishment. Bush’s ego launching into Iraq to win his father’s approval and deflect from the Saudi 9/11 connections didn’t help for spreading forces thin. It’s another Vietnam.
Go back even further and much of this miss STILL stems from things the USA did in the 1950s with their corporate involvement in building water supplies in Afghanistan.
The Middle East is unstable because the West and the Soviets made it unstable. A United Arab State sat on that much oil is a threat to all global power. |
Indeed. That and pouring vast amounts of money in without properly regulating where it was going (i.e. into people's pockets rather than where it was needed).
Tho there was little chance of ever being a united Arab state. For a start, they're not all Arabs (Turks, Kurds, Persians, North Africans and Jews in the mix). Plus even within the Arab group there are fierce natural rivalries (e.g. between Hashemites and the house of Saud, which has nothing to do with the Cold War and predated the exploitation of oil).
The Ottomans were able to keep a lid on things to some extent by repression, military force and a good deal of tacit semi-autonomy. But rebellions were common. Often followed by massacres.
As a junction of trade routes and continents, it's been a volatile region for most of human history. |  |
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