The Never Nigel campaign 16:36 - May 19 with 2167 views | Mullet | https://secure.hopenothate.org.uk/page/170649/petition/1 Interesting petition from Hope Not Hate here. Not quite sure a pledge from 100k people will do. I guess it’s grassroots activism hoping to get them to join anti fascist matches etc before the next election. |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 16:50 - May 19 with 1780 views | J2BLUE | Not going to bother signing that but won't be voting for him. His comments on the NHS should be put on billboards ahead of the next election. |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 16:56 - May 19 with 1759 views | Mullet |
The Never Nigel campaign on 16:50 - May 19 by J2BLUE | Not going to bother signing that but won't be voting for him. His comments on the NHS should be put on billboards ahead of the next election. |
True, but you’ll get people brainwashed into agreeing with him because the NHS is rubbish or whatever. The expose by Led by Donkeys has been brilliant but doesn’t cut through. They don’t want to hear about his corrupt he is - I’d love to see the Green Party put up against him on Net Zero to see how he does. |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 17:18 - May 19 with 1675 views | Plums |
The Never Nigel campaign on 16:56 - May 19 by Mullet | True, but you’ll get people brainwashed into agreeing with him because the NHS is rubbish or whatever. The expose by Led by Donkeys has been brilliant but doesn’t cut through. They don’t want to hear about his corrupt he is - I’d love to see the Green Party put up against him on Net Zero to see how he does. |
The images of him with Trump and Tate should be used endlessly. A (very) small number will find it appealing but the vast majority would run a mile from those associations |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 17:22 - May 19 with 1657 views | blueasfook | Petitions like this won't change people's minds on voting for Farage - the only people who will sign it are people who would never vote for him anyway. The govt actually tackling immigration (in particular the boat crossings) will. |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 18:35 - May 19 with 1549 views | Mullet |
The Never Nigel campaign on 17:18 - May 19 by Plums | The images of him with Trump and Tate should be used endlessly. A (very) small number will find it appealing but the vast majority would run a mile from those associations |
You’d hope so but I don’t think they would. |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 20:13 - May 19 with 1411 views | Ftnfwest | Bit pointless, labour only need about 25% of the vote to get a 100 seat majority or thereabouts. Absolutely no chance reform will get what they’d need, which would be about 60% for the same thing. |  | |  |
The Never Nigel campaign on 09:06 - May 20 with 1163 views | VanSaParody |
The Never Nigel campaign on 16:50 - May 19 by J2BLUE | Not going to bother signing that but won't be voting for him. His comments on the NHS should be put on billboards ahead of the next election. |
Perfect response to OP We are all free to make up our own minds on the issues that affect us locally & nationally in a free & fair democratic society, hard fought & won for us in two World wars We don't want a political party blocked or banned from running because that truly is the definition of fascism/naziism |  | |  |
The Never Nigel campaign on 09:11 - May 20 with 1150 views | MVBlue |
The Never Nigel campaign on 16:50 - May 19 by J2BLUE | Not going to bother signing that but won't be voting for him. His comments on the NHS should be put on billboards ahead of the next election. |
People are mugs. What were the Brexit promises and what did it achieve? American money is behind Nigel and some of it will be the insurance firms gnashing at the thought of millions of Brits needing health insurance. I recently saw footage of his polished conference with expensive prop 'broken Britain' high street. If you can get the daft and stupids vote like Trump you can get +20% boost at least. We are in trouble, no doubt about it. Buyer beware. |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 09:16 - May 20 with 1132 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
The Never Nigel campaign on 20:13 - May 19 by Ftnfwest | Bit pointless, labour only need about 25% of the vote to get a 100 seat majority or thereabouts. Absolutely no chance reform will get what they’d need, which would be about 60% for the same thing. |
Why would Reform (or any other party) need that percentage? It is our voting system that enables any party to win a large majority on a minority of the overall voting percentage. Probably the smallest vote share for gaining a say in power was that of the DUP who only stood in a small percentage of the seats elected. |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 09:27 - May 20 with 1103 views | Blueschev |
The Never Nigel campaign on 20:13 - May 19 by Ftnfwest | Bit pointless, labour only need about 25% of the vote to get a 100 seat majority or thereabouts. Absolutely no chance reform will get what they’d need, which would be about 60% for the same thing. |
When Farage dissolves Reform in order to become leader of the Conservative Party Labour are essentially screwed, particularly as they seem to be doing their upmost to repel their base. |  | |  |
The Never Nigel campaign on 10:13 - May 20 with 1030 views | Mullet |
The Never Nigel campaign on 09:06 - May 20 by VanSaParody | Perfect response to OP We are all free to make up our own minds on the issues that affect us locally & nationally in a free & fair democratic society, hard fought & won for us in two World wars We don't want a political party blocked or banned from running because that truly is the definition of fascism/naziism |
Did you read the OP? I’m guessing only a parody instead |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 10:44 - May 20 with 997 views | Blueschev |
The Never Nigel campaign on 09:06 - May 20 by VanSaParody | Perfect response to OP We are all free to make up our own minds on the issues that affect us locally & nationally in a free & fair democratic society, hard fought & won for us in two World wars We don't want a political party blocked or banned from running because that truly is the definition of fascism/naziism |
Is anybody suggesting that Farage should be blocked or banned? In a free and fair democratic society it is perfectly reasonable for different factions to form an electoral block. If you're worried about political freedoms being eroded, just wait to see what happens should Farage become PM. |  | |  |
The Never Nigel campaign on 12:27 - May 20 with 890 views | VanSaParody |
The Never Nigel campaign on 10:13 - May 20 by Mullet | Did you read the OP? I’m guessing only a parody instead |
Yes, but my comment was a response to J2BLUE's response to the OP Don't sign a petition trying to stop a party taking part in a free & fair democratic process, just don't vote for them, vote for who you want to vote for [Post edited 20 May 12:31]
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The Never Nigel campaign on 13:13 - May 20 with 847 views | leitrimblue | I can't be the only person who finds this more then a tad embarrassing? It doesn't matter how many angry Guardian readers sign the petition if Nig gets enough votes in the next election he wins. Surely its up to the other political parties to put together policies that attract the voters more then Farages slogans and bullsh1te. I would suggest the Tories should attempt to be less sh1te and Labour may need to hire a few people who don't detest the working class and elderly or at least give the impression of not hating um [Post edited 20 May 13:22]
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The Never Nigel campaign on 13:19 - May 20 with 832 views | Swansea_Blue |
The Never Nigel campaign on 16:50 - May 19 by J2BLUE | Not going to bother signing that but won't be voting for him. His comments on the NHS should be put on billboards ahead of the next election. |
Can we skip that bit and nail him to a billboard? Asking for a friend. (Don’t do violence kids). |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 13:20 - May 20 with 825 views | Swansea_Blue |
The Never Nigel campaign on 13:13 - May 20 by leitrimblue | I can't be the only person who finds this more then a tad embarrassing? It doesn't matter how many angry Guardian readers sign the petition if Nig gets enough votes in the next election he wins. Surely its up to the other political parties to put together policies that attract the voters more then Farages slogans and bullsh1te. I would suggest the Tories should attempt to be less sh1te and Labour may need to hire a few people who don't detest the working class and elderly or at least give the impression of not hating um [Post edited 20 May 13:22]
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I certainly don’t see the point. |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 13:38 - May 20 with 768 views | Bluecoin | I think you're going to be very very disappointed. Good luck though, lol. |  | |  |
The Never Nigel campaign on 13:39 - May 20 with 761 views | blueasfook |
The Never Nigel campaign on 09:27 - May 20 by Blueschev | When Farage dissolves Reform in order to become leader of the Conservative Party Labour are essentially screwed, particularly as they seem to be doing their upmost to repel their base. |
*utmost you're welcome. |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 15:47 - May 20 with 587 views | Mullet |
I can’t read the rest of the article but it literally says “I will hold my hands up if wrong”. Isn’t that a basic press standard? Given all the things which Farage has lied about, denied and spun isn’t that an odd take? I don’t see how that’s an attack line, but quite the opposite? Isn’t one of the fundamental principles of British media and culture that we don’t expect perfection, but accountability and he’s shown that there? |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 16:06 - May 20 with 550 views | management |
The Never Nigel campaign on 15:47 - May 20 by Mullet | I can’t read the rest of the article but it literally says “I will hold my hands up if wrong”. Isn’t that a basic press standard? Given all the things which Farage has lied about, denied and spun isn’t that an odd take? I don’t see how that’s an attack line, but quite the opposite? Isn’t one of the fundamental principles of British media and culture that we don’t expect perfection, but accountability and he’s shown that there? |
Not defending Nigel Farage in any shape or form. When quoting things it is essential you check and double check your sources so that the information is true, Nicholas did not. Especially when issuing this tweet, it was at a time of heightened tension in the UK. As others have highlighted the petition will attract the people that subscribe to Hope not Hates mandate. I am sure they have some extremely valid arguments with regards to many matters. |  | |  |
The Never Nigel campaign on 16:26 - May 20 with 520 views | Mullet |
The Never Nigel campaign on 16:06 - May 20 by management | Not defending Nigel Farage in any shape or form. When quoting things it is essential you check and double check your sources so that the information is true, Nicholas did not. Especially when issuing this tweet, it was at a time of heightened tension in the UK. As others have highlighted the petition will attract the people that subscribe to Hope not Hates mandate. I am sure they have some extremely valid arguments with regards to many matters. |
No one said you were, but beyond the obvious cock up which he’s owned and apologised for, what exactly is the problem there? |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 16:54 - May 20 with 466 views | management |
The Never Nigel campaign on 16:26 - May 20 by Mullet | No one said you were, but beyond the obvious cock up which he’s owned and apologised for, what exactly is the problem there? |
The main issue with Nicks tweet was misinformation during the period of unrest. Tensions were high and Nick implied by a tweet that a Muslim lady had been attacked with acid with no proof to substantiate this. Cleveland police stated there was no record of any such incident. The local community could have been upset with such an incident and sadly during this period people acted on misinformation. Sometime there are consequences to what people say, thankfully this did not occur but as per previous message, essential to check and recheck sources. |  | |  |
The Never Nigel campaign on 17:07 - May 20 with 417 views | Swansea_Blue |
The Never Nigel campaign on 17:22 - May 19 by blueasfook | Petitions like this won't change people's minds on voting for Farage - the only people who will sign it are people who would never vote for him anyway. The govt actually tackling immigration (in particular the boat crossings) will. |
I doubt that. Immigration has declined massively over the last year and is forecast to keep falling. You wouldn’t know it though, as loads of airtime is still given to dishonest and disingenuous people who claim it’s a growing problem. If tackling immigration would change people’s mind, they should already be changing. The irregular access via small boats does seem to be a flash point, granted. Honesty is needed there as well. It’s not easy to tackle, as people will always find a way and it’s happening all over the world (Starmer was an idiot to wang on about smashing the gangs, but we know the right love a simple three word slogan). |  |
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The Never Nigel campaign on 18:10 - May 20 with 360 views | Mullet |
The Never Nigel campaign on 16:54 - May 20 by management | The main issue with Nicks tweet was misinformation during the period of unrest. Tensions were high and Nick implied by a tweet that a Muslim lady had been attacked with acid with no proof to substantiate this. Cleveland police stated there was no record of any such incident. The local community could have been upset with such an incident and sadly during this period people acted on misinformation. Sometime there are consequences to what people say, thankfully this did not occur but as per previous message, essential to check and recheck sources. |
But again, you’re just repeating yourself without justifying what is missing from the article you linked, where he says sorry and understands his mistake. No one disagrees we had some very hopped up racists doling out violence, but he not only seems to own his mistake but no one did take that action unlike the far right. I’m at a loss as to why you’re vilifying him specifically with evidence we can’t read beyond showing he’s seemingly done the right thing. Equating him with fascist mouth pieces who actually did cause violence and threat to life seems really weird. Hence the question. |  |
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