| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... 15:13 - Aug 17 with 2881 views | pointofblue |
It feels like we're going down, folks!
(And I swear Jobi McAnuff called us Ipswich's Town. The bias towards Southampton verged on nauseating). |  |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:17 - Aug 17 with 2580 views | petieboy2011 |
Buckle up mate - Sky Sports hate us. Birmingham played us off the park last Friday apparently. We could win a game handsomly and they would say the opposition had a "bad day at the office". |  | | |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:19 - Aug 17 with 2538 views | pointofblue |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:17 - Aug 17 by petieboy2011 |
Buckle up mate - Sky Sports hate us. Birmingham played us off the park last Friday apparently. We could win a game handsomly and they would say the opposition had a "bad day at the office". |
We only created chances due to Southampton's mistakes, apparently. Whereas all of there's - including the goal - were down to superb sweeping play which matched the Cruyff days. | |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:25 - Aug 17 with 2404 views | billlm |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:19 - Aug 17 by pointofblue |
We only created chances due to Southampton's mistakes, apparently. Whereas all of there's - including the goal - were down to superb sweeping play which matched the Cruyff days. |
There's was down to a Davis feck up, nothing unusual there |  | | |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:27 - Aug 17 with 2375 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
It did feel rather like that. All of the first half and much of the second their editor had an obsession with showing Harwood-Bellis in close-up. It reduced when Dibbling came on as they focused on him as well. I like Jobi McAnuff and he speaks a lot of balanced sense but he did make that mistake and refer to us as Ipswich's Town.
The other commentators said Southampton deserved their equaliser at a point where I felt the only thing they had been better than us at was getting away with repeated fouls and "earning" free kicks.
Overall there was very little between the sides and a draw was probably a fair result but had that been Leeds hitting the post, shooting just over the bar, having a few headers off target, etc, Sky would have been saying how unlucky they were not to have won.
Ultimately it matters little about Sky's lack of balance. We just need to win the games. Let Woolfy call out their bias at the end of a successful season. |  |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:28 - Aug 17 with 2342 views | Scuzzer |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:25 - Aug 17 by billlm |
There's was down to a Davis feck up, nothing unusual there |
And nothing to do with O'Shea and Johnson ball watching and letting their young striker to ghost past them totally unmarked. Ofcourse not... |  |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:29 - Aug 17 with 2308 views | Bobbychase |
It was amusing how they sucked up to Will Still, then as an afterthought showed us hitting the post, Chaplin shooting wide, Chaplin heading just over and Davis shanking it when he had a chance to fire it into the mixer.
Almost like we created way better chances than them in the second half. |  |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:31 - Aug 17 with 2261 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:28 - Aug 17 by Scuzzer |
And nothing to do with O'Shea and Johnson ball watching and letting their young striker to ghost past them totally unmarked. Ofcourse not... |
Greaves ran to no man's land. Lost the ball and took forever to run back
Davis didn't stop cross
No defender jumped for the ball
Keeper didn't come for the ball
Many issues with the goal. Not really one person to blame. |  |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:32 - Aug 17 with 2239 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:25 - Aug 17 by billlm |
There's was down to a Davis feck up, nothing unusual there |
Who gave the ball away halfway inside the opposition half? OK, he did well to get back to defend after but that was the initial issue.
Who should have been marking the player who scored? It wasn't Davis.
I would say Matusiwa shares as much of the blame as anyone. | |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:33 - Aug 17 with 2218 views | pointofblue |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:29 - Aug 17 by Bobbychase |
It was amusing how they sucked up to Will Still, then as an afterthought showed us hitting the post, Chaplin shooting wide, Chaplin heading just over and Davis shanking it when he had a chance to fire it into the mixer.
Almost like we created way better chances than them in the second half. |
It was hilarious how dismissive they were about Szmodics hitting the post. Especially as, from memory, it was down to our play rather than a Southampton error. Guess it didn't fit with the narrative. | |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:37 - Aug 17 with 2128 views | billlm |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:32 - Aug 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Who gave the ball away halfway inside the opposition half? OK, he did well to get back to defend after but that was the initial issue.
Who should have been marking the player who scored? It wasn't Davis.
I would say Matusiwa shares as much of the blame as anyone. |
Davis 100% bottled a 50/50 tackle, where he may have gave a free kick for booked, or dare I say won the ball,
Start with him | | | |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:45 - Aug 17 with 2013 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:37 - Aug 17 by billlm |
Davis 100% bottled a 50/50 tackle, where he may have gave a free kick for booked, or dare I say won the ball,
Start with him |
I will have to watch that back because I didn't see anything like that.
You must be referring to before the initial cross was blocked so, had he dived in and given away a free kick and been booked, you would have been criticising him for giving away a free kick in such a dangerous area for sure. | |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:46 - Aug 17 with 1996 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Who cares! We should have won and done ok |  |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:00 - Aug 17 with 1861 views | Blue_Moses |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:28 - Aug 17 by Scuzzer |
And nothing to do with O'Shea and Johnson ball watching and letting their young striker to ghost past them totally unmarked. Ofcourse not... |
Johnson is only now reacting | | | |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:13 - Aug 17 with 1711 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:37 - Aug 17 by billlm |
Davis 100% bottled a 50/50 tackle, where he may have gave a free kick for booked, or dare I say won the ball,
Start with him |
This is complete b0ll0cks.
I'm just home from the game, and in real-time it never occurred to me that Davis had contributed directly to the conceded goal. Having now rewatched the goal, the Davis 'bottled 50/50' tackle is well before the phase that actually led up to the goal. It's the previous phase that we'd already broken down. Trying to blame Davis for that goal is just looking for fault in Davis. | | | |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:15 - Aug 17 with 1669 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:13 - Aug 17 by SuffolkPunchFC |
This is complete b0ll0cks.
I'm just home from the game, and in real-time it never occurred to me that Davis had contributed directly to the conceded goal. Having now rewatched the goal, the Davis 'bottled 50/50' tackle is well before the phase that actually led up to the goal. It's the previous phase that we'd already broken down. Trying to blame Davis for that goal is just looking for fault in Davis. |
That does surprise me from a poster who appears to have a campaign against Davis as vindictive as one that got another poster in trouble with a different player's family. | |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:18 - Aug 17 with 1634 views | Nutkins_Return |
Much better today. At the game and whilst we never got in top gear we were the better team and second half the didn't have a sniff and we had 2-3 good chances and all the ball really.
We are a few key players being integrated away from being a very good side again with the confidence to come back in.
Jens is different gravy and will be key but we definitely need another. Matusiwa second half was brilliant I thought although on the yellow makes me nervous as he has no careful switch in him. Just in their winning balls.
Philogene is much more effective then Clarke and wins the ball back really well. We didn't use him nearly enough. To p delivery as well. He will get better and better. | |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:24 - Aug 17 with 1583 views | billlm |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:13 - Aug 17 by SuffolkPunchFC |
This is complete b0ll0cks.
I'm just home from the game, and in real-time it never occurred to me that Davis had contributed directly to the conceded goal. Having now rewatched the goal, the Davis 'bottled 50/50' tackle is well before the phase that actually led up to the goal. It's the previous phase that we'd already broken down. Trying to blame Davis for that goal is just looking for fault in Davis. |
There you go if as a phase you say he Makes A tackle other phases don't materalise in the order that we conceded in as there wouldn't be that same order, but thanks anyway, | | | |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:26 - Aug 17 with 1549 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:24 - Aug 17 by billlm |
There you go if as a phase you say he Makes A tackle other phases don't materalise in the order that we conceded in as there wouldn't be that same order, but thanks anyway, |
So they scored because we gave away a throw in during the first 10 minutes. | |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:29 - Aug 17 with 1500 views | pointofblue |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:13 - Aug 17 by SuffolkPunchFC |
This is complete b0ll0cks.
I'm just home from the game, and in real-time it never occurred to me that Davis had contributed directly to the conceded goal. Having now rewatched the goal, the Davis 'bottled 50/50' tackle is well before the phase that actually led up to the goal. It's the previous phase that we'd already broken down. Trying to blame Davis for that goal is just looking for fault in Davis. |
If Davis had got a foot in then the move would have panned out differently, so I think he does take partial responsibility. As does most of the team. | |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:33 - Aug 17 with 1436 views | billlm |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:26 - Aug 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
So they scored because we gave away a throw in during the first 10 minutes. |
Now your just being pedantic as we're talking about a build up to a goal and phases , but if you think a throw in caused the goal after ten minutes your more than entitled to that opinion | | | |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:57 - Aug 17 with 1255 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:24 - Aug 17 by billlm |
There you go if as a phase you say he Makes A tackle other phases don't materalise in the order that we conceded in as there wouldn't be that same order, but thanks anyway, |
How far do you want to roll back the play?
The tackle you're 'fixated' on was right in the middle of the pitch, with minimal risk - so no need for Davis to commit to a 50/50 challenge that (as you say yourself) could have led to a yellow card (so unnecessarily picked up), or injury.
There is a place for the type of challenge you are chastising Davis for not making, but that wasn't one of them imo. | | | |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 17:22 - Aug 17 with 1104 views | billlm |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 16:57 - Aug 17 by SuffolkPunchFC |
How far do you want to roll back the play?
The tackle you're 'fixated' on was right in the middle of the pitch, with minimal risk - so no need for Davis to commit to a 50/50 challenge that (as you say yourself) could have led to a yellow card (so unnecessarily picked up), or injury.
There is a place for the type of challenge you are chastising Davis for not making, but that wasn't one of them imo. |
So in phases and real time how long after the bottle tackle did the ball end up in our net, 45 seconds, no one covered themselves in glory after his lame attempt granted, | | | |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 18:43 - Aug 17 with 819 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:31 - Aug 17 by FrimleyBlue |
Greaves ran to no man's land. Lost the ball and took forever to run back
Davis didn't stop cross
No defender jumped for the ball
Keeper didn't come for the ball
Many issues with the goal. Not really one person to blame. |
Still unsure as to what Greaves was doing there. |  |
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| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 19:41 - Aug 17 with 579 views | BrayBlue |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 15:37 - Aug 17 by billlm |
Davis 100% bottled a 50/50 tackle, where he may have gave a free kick for booked, or dare I say won the ball,
Start with him |
Yep, Davis needs to learn that in that situation either the ball can go past you or the player can go past you … but not both. Even if he’d committed the foul (and possibly bern booked) it would have been a free-kick in a relatively benign are of the pitch.
But as others have pointed out, not just Davis at fault for their goal.
Cheers,
JK | | | |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 19:44 - Aug 17 with 555 views | mrfixit426 |
| I was feeling positive, then I watched Sky's review of the game... on 19:41 - Aug 17 by BrayBlue |
Yep, Davis needs to learn that in that situation either the ball can go past you or the player can go past you … but not both. Even if he’d committed the foul (and possibly bern booked) it would have been a free-kick in a relatively benign are of the pitch.
But as others have pointed out, not just Davis at fault for their goal.
Cheers,
JK |
I thought Davis was excellent today, but I agree with you on this.
Imagine prime Stuart Pearce in the same scenario. |  | | |
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