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Town Visit Wigan Looking to Ease Worries With Pre-Christmas Win
Friday, 16th Dec 2016 06:00

Town visit second-bottom Wigan on Saturday looking for a win which would ease concerns that they could be drawn into the Championship relegation battle ahead of the Christmas fixtures.

The Blues are now 17th, five points off the bottom three following Tuesday’s 2-1 defeat at Birmingham with their pre-season target of the play-offs now 10 points away.

Manager Mick McCarthy isn’t keen to dwell on the potential for the Blues to get drawn into the battle for survival.

“I don’t want to be talking about it, for sure. Our performance and our result against Wigan will tell us a lot, that’s for certain,” he said.

“Let’s get the elephant out the room, it’s been my job [we've been talking about] for the last few weeks, so we’ll talk about relegation. I’m not even going to get into that, we want to win on Saturday.”

Having played essentially the same side in the previous four games McCarthy says he will make changes at the DW Stadium, the 3-0 home win against QPR having been followed by a defeat at Bristol City, a 1-1 home draw with Cardiff and the loss at St Andrew’s.

“There was that 4-4-2, being solid, being hard to beat, grinding results out. But we haven’t have we? We’ve not done that,” he admitted.

“We need a spark from somewhere and if you just keep playing the same team and are not getting a result, then I’d be bonkers [to continue to do so], and I think I’d be bonkers as well.”

He says his players are used to different systems so a change of formation as well as personnel wouldn’t be too unsettling.

“It’s not like we’re just turning up this week and saying, ‘Right, we’ll start playing football, we’re going to play 4-4-2 this week and do something different’,” he added.

“We’ve played all the shapes actually, 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3, we played 3-5-2 at Bristol City. It wouldn’t be a surprise to anyone.

“We had a good spell when we didn’t look like we were conceding, we were playing with one up front, 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 with one main striker.

“And we couldn’t score then. We had lots of clean sheets. Well, we certainly need a clean sheet at the minute.”

While McCarthy was “very pleased” with subs Freddie Sears, Brett Pitman and Jonny Williams at Birmingham - “We’ve had good responses from subs recently when they’ve come on to try and make a difference” - have the other players on the fringes been impressing in the U23s and in training?

“The U23 games don’t bother me greatly, it’s how they train every day, and they all train very well, they all compete, they’re all pushing for places.

“Playing in the U23s, if I played any of them I wouldn’t get the same level of performance that I would on a Saturday in the first team. And that’s across the board, across the country that would be the same. That doesn’t concern me greatly.”

McCarthy says the mood isn’t too downbeat at Playford Road even if it has understandably been affected by results: “The lads are all fine, they all get on very well.

“Team spirit is high, I guess morale always takes a knock when results take a knock. I’m not going to tell a lie, we’re all feeling a little bit lower than we would like to be and we would like to get a result.”

Defensively, the Blues have all too often been the architects of their own downfall in recent weeks with individual errors, usually from set pieces, having led to most opposition goals.

McCarthy has built his Town sides on a strong defence and says he has sought to do little different this season.

“We haven’t gone away from that, to be honest, it’s not like we’ve tried to be anything other,” he said.

“If I think about the goals we’ve conceded. I know one [on Tuesday] was a penalty, but we missed the first header, we got done for the second one, a header in our box.

“At Bristol City, it was a penalty and then a worldy. At Rotherham we gave away goals, Nottingham Forest one after 19 seconds.

“Teams haven’t really been carving us open. As a unit we’ve been OK, but we’ve made mistakes. If I could get back to a clean sheet it would be very pleasing.”

While generally happy with overall performances, games have turned on “tiny details” at each end of the field.


“Absolutely, the most important part of the game at both ends,” he reflected. “We’re not making it easy for ourselves.

“We all know if we’d been at St Andrew’s with 15 minutes to go and it was 0-0 they would have all been very nervy and we would have been pushing for a goal. But instead we were 2-0 down.”

Wigan, promoted from League One as champions in May, were beaten 2-0 at home by Newcastle on Tuesday night, their third successive loss.

“They were on TV last night against Newcastle and I thought they had a pretty good go at it actually,” McCarthy said.

“But comparing the rest of us in the Championship against Newcastle is not really a fair fight.

“I think [Latics manager] Warren [Joyce] has tried to make them more organised, more solid, harder to beat. They had a great result at Huddersfield [a 2-1 win], of course, and that’s the only win they’ve had out of five or six games.

“But that’s what they’re trying to do because you can always nick one, you can nick one on the breakaway, a freekick, a throw-in, a corner.

“You’ll get something, you’ll always have chances and I think Warren’s first job was to make them a bit more resolute and tougher, harder to beat. So we’ll see.

“They’ll be looking at us and thinking, ‘Wow, this mob that are coming up here, they’re not doing particularly well’, I think they’ll be relishing us going up there.

“Hopefully, it’s one of those games where the pressure is on them, they think they’ve got a good fixture for them in the position they’re in.”

He added: “I saw them earlier on in the season and they certainly weren’t playing badly but they were getting beaten.

“I can empathise with that, it’s not easy if that keeps happening and you have to start figuring out what’s going wrong and by that time Gary Caldwell had lost his job and Warren Joyce was in charge.

“They’re a bit more pragmatic now. If you’re near the bottom of the league a bit of pragmatism is required.”

Joyce took over having been highly regarded during eight years working with Manchester United’s reserves and then U21s squad.

“He’s got a very good reputation as a coach working with really good players at Manchester United,” McCarthy said.

“But he has managed before, he managed Hull City and Royal Antwerp. He’s got vast experience in football and I think you could see that, certainly against Huddersfield, from how he is trying to do it.

“It’s a bit different when you’re coaching Manchester United’s U21s, you’ve got the best players but he is a very good coach. I’ve no doubt that he will impress his ideas and what he wants to do on them and get them playing.

“I watched it last night but comparing Wigan and Newcastle is just daft, like comparing us and Newcastle.”

Despite his reputation in the game, does he believe Joyce needed to step up to managing a senior side in order to prove himself further? “You certainly get more recognition, whether it’s good recognition or bad recognition, you get more of it.

“I don’t think he needs to prove himself as a coach, he’s done that, that’s for sure, but like all of us, we all want to manage a team in the league.

“They’re aren’t too many that don’t. There might be some who say, ‘I’m not so sure’ but when the opportunity arises you’ve got to take it.”

Current Blues loanee Tom Lawrence and former Blues Ryan Tunnicliffe and Freddie Veseli are among the recent Town players to have worked with Joyce at Old Trafford.

“We’ve had a few of his players, I know him quite well,” the Town boss continued. “We’ve had some players from him in the past and I know [director of football] Dave Bowman knows him particularly well. He’s a good guy.”

One of Wigan’s main threats is Northern Ireland international striker Will Grigg, who has scored six times this season.

However, like the Blues the Latics have struggled for goals overall this season, having netted only 16, the lowest in the division, with Town having scored the second fewest, 19.

“He scores goals, doesn’t he?” McCarthy added. “But I guess you could be asking that about us and we’d say we’re finding them particularly hard to come by, and so are they.

“Both of us are just having a struggle at the minute. I think someone up there might be asking, ‘What about David McGoldrick?’ or ‘What about Freddie Sears?’. Warren Joyce might be up there saying ‘They’re both good players but finding goals hard to come by’.

“They’re just a bit the same and, of course, Yanic Wildschut, who came from Middlesbrough, he ripped it up against Huddersfield on TV recently. They’ve got some decent players but they’re like us, they’ll be desperate for a win.”

Is it a game Town need to win? “I always say if we’d lost on Saturday and then won the next six it wouldn’t really matter.

“But if we lose on Saturday we’re not likely to win the next six, so we could do with a win.”

Bartosz Bialkowski will be in goal, while McCarthy has a decision to make at left-back with Jonas Knudsen fit again after missing the Birmingham game with a tight hamstring and Myles Kenlock impressing in his absence.

The 20-year-old may well have done enough to keep his place with skipper Luke Chambers at right-back and Christophe Berra and Adam Webster at the heart of the defence.

McCarthy has hinted at a change of formation and could switch to a 4-3-3 system, Wigan having tended to play 4-5-1, with Cole Skuse starting in his usual deeper midfield role.

Jonathan Douglas could be one of those to make way having played the week's previous two games with Kevin Bru perhaps coming into the side. Andre Dozzell is understood to be set to make his first Championship start of the season, while Jonny Williams could again be among the subs.

Lawrence will continue on the left with Freddie Sears vying with Grant Ward for the right-sided role.

David McGoldrick could operate down the middle with Luke Varney probably dropping to the bench alongside Brett Pitman, who is perhaps not yet ready to start.

Wigan, who have lost their last four at the DW Stadium where they haven’t scored in five, could be without Everton loanee Luke Garbutt (back) and centre-half Craig Morgan (groin), the duo having picked up their injuries in the Newcastle game.

Right-back is an area where they are particularly short and left-back Andy Kellett may start if Garbutt and Nathan Byrne, who has an ankle problem, both miss out, while another right-sided full-back, Reece Burke, has gone back to his parent side West Ham to undergo treatment on a hip injury.

Another defender Reece James (foot), former Colchester midfielder Alex Gilbey (ankle) and one-time Town target Nick Powell (hamstring) all remain sidelined.

The teams last met at a snowy Portman Road in January 2015 with the Latics on their way down to League One when the game ended in a drab 0-0 draw.

"Jay Tabb had the best chance for the Blues in the first half, while McGoldrick and sub Sears had opportunities after the break, but overall a goalless draw was a fair result.

Last time at the DW Stadium in September 2014, goals from Luke Hyam and Conor Sammon saw the Blues to a 2-1 victory, their first ever win at Wigan’s current home.

Hyam turned home the opener on 20 and loanee Sammon netted against his old club in the 63rd minute, before Martyn Waghorn set up a nervy finish for Blues supporters when he pulled one back with eight minutes remaining.

Overall, Town have beaten the Latics three times (twice in the league), have lost six times (five) and the teams have drawn once in the league and one League Cup tie.

No one in either squad has represented the opposition, but Blues keeper Bialkowski had a trial with the Latics as a teenager prior to joining Southampton, while Town fitness coach Andy Liddell was a Wigan player between 1998 and 2004.

Saturday’s referee is Championship stalwart Keith Stroud from Hampshire, who has shown 108 yellow cards and eight red in 23 games so far this season.

Stroud’s most recent Town game was the 4-2 victory over Barnsley at Portman Road on the opening day when he awarded the Blues a penalty which was converted by McGoldrick. He booked Bru, Teddy Bishop and three Tykes.

He also took control of the 3-2 home victory over the MK Dons in the final home match of last season, in which he booked Tommy Smith and one opposition player and awarded the visitors a spotkick.

Prior to that Stroud was in charge of the 1-1 home draw with Birmingham in September last year in which he awarded the Blues a penalty, netted by Pitman, which was bitterly disputed by the visitors when Ainsley Maitland-Niles was felled by Jonathan Spector. He booked Berra, Douglas and two visiting players.

A former Premier League referee and one-time FIFA assistant, Stroud also refereed the 3-2 defeat at Brighton in January 2015 in which he booked Bru and Noel Hunt and one Seagull.

He also officiated in the 1-0 home derby defeat to Norwich at Portman Road in August 2014 and Town’s 1-0 home victory over Birmingham in March of the same year.

Squad from: Bialkowski, Gerken, Chambers (c), Knudsen, Emmanuel, Kenlock, Webster, Berra, Skuse, Douglas, Bru, Dozzell, Williams, Ward, Lawrence, Varney, McGoldrick, Sears, Best, Pitman.


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grumpyoldman added 12:07 - Dec 16
“We need a spark from somewhere and if you just keep playing the same team and are not getting a result, then I'd be bonkers [to continue to do so], and I think I'd be bonkers as well.”
Who has been picking out of form players, players out of their best position then, is anybody else picking the team then?
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runaround added 12:32 - Dec 16
Massive chance to get a morale boosting win & perhaps turn a corner. We must go at them from the off. Play to keep it tight we will probably lose
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notoriousITFC added 12:45 - Dec 16
The problem at our club at the moment is Marcus Evans not Mick McCarthy. Evans has no interest in the football at Ipswich town. The guy is using the club for business purposes. This is quite clearly reflected in the lack of investment back. Ticket prices at Ipswich town are high and what do we see in return.

This year our season ticket prices are more expensive than the most expensive ticket at 12 Premier League clubs. McCarthy has had to sell and reinvest with nothing. I don't like the way we play, I don't like our style and I think we are some way off being a Championship team. I don't however blame McCarthy. He didn't want to sell Murphy two days before the end of the transfer window. We have to see a change at the top of the club otherwise we could be in serious trouble.
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ipswichdave added 13:57 - Dec 16
Hold The Back Page!!!
Starting X1

Bart
Chambers Webster Berra Knudsen
Sears Skuse DOZZELL Lawrence
Williams Pitman

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Surco72 added 14:15 - Dec 16
Notorious ITFC ... really ? we have sold 3 players in 4 seasons that MM has been here Cressy , Mings and Murphy , all clubs in championship sell and move on . What I would look at more is the amount of players improving under the coaching of MM and TC ?
Defenders still make the same mistakes especially from set pieces ?
Midfielders still seem narrow and cannot make more than a couple of passes mostly back to the back four to hoof ?
And the strikers seem to score less after joining after working with TC ,Sears , Dids , Pitman ?
Do you honestly think MM is getting the best out of the squad that he has available ? If so then it proves how badly MM judged his squad at the start of the season
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planetblue_2011 added 14:50 - Dec 16
The only change he'll make is Knudsen for Kenlock.
The only spark we have is Williams! Will he play him??
Noooooooooo!! Douglas is the main man with skusey.
Pathetic!!
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dalianwasexciting added 15:59 - Dec 16
So glad I am going tomorrow...I am expecting an uninspiring team selection and set up for a 0-0 with a lucky goal on the break - however, we go with faint glimmer that we can snatch a win, score a goal or generally entertain - have to say the odds on that don't look good...
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notoriousITFC added 16:00 - Dec 16
Sucro72 - You missed my point. I'm not saying MM is a tactical genius, nor am I saying he is getting the best out of his squad. We lack creativity, we can't pass... all of the above. He is however in a job that is incredibly limiting as a manager.

My point is that people seem to be completely blind to what is happening at the top of the club. MM has had no backing for reinvestment into his squad despite making big sales through sold players. Evans isn't backing this club like it's aiming for promotion. Fans should be protesting at ticket prices at Ipswich when they don't see any return on investment into the team.

Name me a manager that would get us promoted under the same circumstances? Name me a manager that would like to work in those circumstances? Building a squad on free signings and low wages is not easy. Ipswich isn't an attractive offer.

Let's see what January brings...

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strikalite added 16:13 - Dec 16
We're always playing for a clean sheet ffs, but we only need a pen decision go against us or a "worldy" goal and the game is lost, you can defend perfectly and lose easily!!

When you're averaging a goal a game or close to that then you'll be lucky to get a point out of a game....

We need a spark? We sure do.....so just leave and give somebody with fresh ideas a go with our squad, they can't do much worse!
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Steve_ITFC_Sweden added 16:46 - Dec 16
You think we will scrape a win? I wouldn't bank on it!
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leroygibbs added 17:05 - Dec 16
Just a thought, will the Wigan manager get sacked tomorrow evening for beating us?
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bushhillblue added 17:08 - Dec 16
same excuses what if unlucky bounce ref wrong ffs if my auntie had balls shes be my uncle times up dino 5 oclock saturday bfore if i was owner long bfore
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NoelTheDub added 17:20 - Dec 16
Mick the usual bull talk the facts are your desperate midfield pairing that you only think are doing any good,also your ruining Chambers as a player because you only think hes going a great shift the guy is struggling big time like the two broken down steam rollers in the middle in the middle.Another issue is McGoldrick he is our centre forward but he has to go all over the bloody place to create something for himself when you stubbornly leave a Wales International creative midfielder freezing on the brech.Bloody stop milking up players that are doing poorly and taking the wrong players off and keeping your favs out there it clearly has us were we are the sooner the better you and your croonies are gone and hopfully we are still in the championship by that time.
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RoyalAscotBlue added 18:07 - Dec 16
What an awful prospect this game is. Two hyper defensive and ultra negative teams facing off against each other on a damp December's day. Some might call it a six pointer but we all know Mick would be delighted with a clean sheet and one solitary point.

And I've just paid £65 for a couple of tickets to watch Fulham beat us on boxing day... When will the misery end?
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RoyalAscotBlue added 18:08 - Dec 16
What an awful prospect this game is. Two hyper defensive and ultra negative teams facing off against each other on a damp December's day. Some might call it a six pointer but we all know Mick would be delighted with a clean sheet and one solitary point.

And I've just paid £65 for a couple of tickets to watch Fulham beat us on boxing day... When will the misery end?
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Swn98 added 19:58 - Dec 16
Van munt 4/1 out of 600 votes hardly a representable view of the majority of town supporters /followers.
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Swn98 added 20:04 - Dec 16
Interesting point most goals conceded from set pieces would indicate to me the lack of players technical ability to do the basics no matter who the manager is.
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Toronto_Tractor added 20:07 - Dec 16
A win would be great but anyone expecting it or demanding it is deluded. Wigan have more points at home than we have away. We have played awful all year. The selection is likely to be defensive. Any realists out there that see our team isnt good enough? We cant berate the quality of the team and still demand results. It doesn't work like that.
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blueboy1981 added 20:17 - Dec 16
......... well, if we can't beat Wigan - who can we beat ?

No doubt Wigan will conveniently become a good team for the day - therefore rear guard action, men behind the ball - and not forgetting the ' no such thing as a bad point' (now where have I heard that before) ??

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Brownie added 20:29 - Dec 16
Just watching Huddersfield v The Budgies.

1-1 at the moment. They are away to one of the stronger squads in the division. They are set up to win. They have pace, flare & a threat in behind.

They didn't cost a fortune & the club took a chance to get a young progressive manager.

They might lose but I admit I'm jealous. Why can't we do the same?

Be careful what you wish for? No I'll wish for some of the above from our board and owner..
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Surco72 added 20:39 - Dec 16
The players that are not technically good enough to defend corners whilst on the pitch were brought to the club by MM , are selected by MM and coached by MM seems he is failing at every turn while telling Ys how good they are
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MicksZzzTactics added 05:28 - Dec 17
@Swn98 (@vanmunt ... and basically everyone else trying to gauge the "legitimacy" of what Phil's MM out / MM in poll is showing)

!!!REVELATION!!! ... ABOUT "SMALLISH LOOKING" SURVEY SAMPLE SIZES

As alarmingly usual @Swn98 you come across as ehhhmmmm puzzling "poorly informed" ... or perhaps at least metaphorically speaking "uneducated" even?! :-) Well whatever your 'Field of Expertise' really is, I seriously doubt you can be a statistician, mathematician or datamatician or anything remotely similar when you soooo boldly dismiss @vanmunt's post and claim that a survey sample size of 600+ in this here local specific Ipswich case of for or against MM continuing "is hardly a representable view"???!!!

Well as matter of fact it is!!!!!!!!!! .... as will be demonstrated below.

None of us know EXACTLY how many ITFC fans who in this day and age -- what is it now 14th consecutive season in the 2nd tier? -- would like to come to PR (regardless of the pricing!) under shall we say "Optimal Circumstances"! ... both in regard to a FOOTBALL CARING, visible and vocal owner but mostly and quite obvious to who is the manager & his inherent overall tactical approach, his game decisions (i.e. who is starting, who is substituted in/out and of course having more than just a single and very 1-dimensional "Plan A" including one plan that says: LET'S GO FOR THE WIN!) and to HIS chosen player materiale & their overall performance and ability to entertain us for 95 minutes, while thus not really focusing much on actual points haul & league position (and this is due to the reality that there are plenty of examples of football clubs on the European map who remain/remained very well supported attendance-wise even during periods/years of struggling PROVIDED the fans are basically contend with these aforementioned things not the least *courageous* tactics, chosen starting XI, overall effort and of course the ultra important "entertainment-value-for-money" aspect!).

.....But partly considering what our attendance was just about a handful of years ago (thus "coincidentally"? before MM) let's for an much easier sake of argument just say optimally 20.000 at this here championship level, which is also a nice round workable figure shall we?

However Instead of trying my hardest, yet again! :-) -- after all you are known be just as stubborn and also unable to admit to being wrong as MM is dear @Swn98 --- this time to explain why 600+ out of say 20.000 is indeed a very acceptable sample size .... well I will conserve my energy, wrath etc. and mostly just refer to a couple of links that I sincerely hope you (and everyone else interested or doubtful) would like to take the time to read carefully:

https://help.surveymonkey.com/articles/en_US/kb/How-many-respondents-do-I-need

Firstly see this above page and especially pay attention to the table 'Suggested Sample Sizes'. Now as you can see it lists a fixed number of "population sizes" (for our purpose we should of course rename this to as explained earlier: "Optimal number of ITFC fans wanting, regardless the pricing, to come to PR at the championship level, and in this day and age").

As you can also see to attain a very acceptable 'Margin of Error' of +/- 5% [to check the explanation for what 'Margin of Error' means click on it under 'Definitions' at the top of the page] you need to ask 385 fans out of every 10.000 .... which mean that with TWTD currently having 648 fans voted here on this site out of the aforementioned suggested optimally 20.000 ITFC fans likely to attend "out there", well what to U know?: This here TWTD survey sample size is 'JUST PEACHY' actually!!! :-) and thus from a statistical Industry Standard pov currently resides at a MORE THAN FINE! + / - 3.8 'Margin of Error' with it's current 648 out of 20000 while maintaining a 'Confidence Level of 95%' which is also the Industry Standard of "The probability that your sample accurately reflects the attitude of your population [read: ITFC fans, i.e. optimally likely to attend as explained several times]".

Heck to just be within the + / - 5% 'Margin of Error' only 377 had thus needed to vote!!!

Just try it for yourselves to insert 20.000 (or whatever figure between say 15.000-25.000 really) in the 'population' field on this here nifty calculator:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/mp/sample-size-calculator/
.....and then you can fiddle with the 'Margin of Error' level as you like ... but even with a "+ / - 10% Margin of Error, heck it is in fact STILL considered an quite acceptable and accurately depicting survey!!!

For further and a little more layman-terms like reading on the subject of "Survey Sample Sizes" check out the the very esteemed Mr. Robert Niles (editor, writer, producer etc.) nicely informative page on Election Surveys here: http://www.robertniles.com/stats/margin.shtml

PS: Soooo doesn't you perhaps NOW think that you owe @vanmunt ... and even the rest of us dreaded and pesky Anti-MM fans ... an apolgy dear @Swn98/@Mrs.McCarthy??? :-) lol
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shakytown added 07:25 - Dec 17
Just leave. Go away. Get lost and take different class dougie with you. No hope No plan No ideas just a poor team on freefall to league 1. You are the problem and nothing else just f off
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yorksblue added 09:34 - Dec 17
Start with the whistles and chants, like Coventry the other night. Save the pitch invasion and banners til next home game.
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Swn98 added 09:56 - Dec 17
Micks tactics what a boring life you must lead !!!!!!!!!!!
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