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Reply | 116 million
at 07:40 14 Jun 2025
Yes, we were competing in the same league but to use spends from Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, City etc is misleading.
We were competing with the likes of the rest, all with bigger budgets, granted, but they can't compete with those figures either. |
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Reply | Relegation this season might be the best thing that's happened to us
at 09:02 12 Jun 2025
I cannot accept your description of world class coach.
Throughout the season Leif was pushed so far forward on the left that teams were getting in time after time. It was there for everyone to see, apart from our manager apparently.
If you watch a world class manager they act immediately, and I'm talking mid-game. |
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Reply | McKenna
at 16:34 9 Jun 2025
I do agree with some of what you say, but I don't yet buy into the great manager theory.
Yes, he got us back on track, but his arrival coincided with new ambitious owners and a pot full of money BY League One standards. It is generally accepted that we bought players who would be up to, or already at Championship level. Taking all that into account, promotion was, or should have been expected.
The Championship season is his biggest success, we never for a moment looked out of place (I'm conveniently ignoring the pasting Leeds gave us, that was a one off). As you say had we narrowly missed out on the play-offs it would still have been a good season.
I sort of agree with you about last season, though I don't buy into the League One players playing at Premier League level. If we agree we bought Championship ready players to get us promoted out of League One you can't call them League One players. Yes, we played with heart and desire but we were naïve, and I do put that down to the manager. How many goals did Leif Davis cost us by bombing forward like he had in previous seasons? You can only assume that is under instruction from KMK, yet we could all see how much that was damaging us. As for what Slot said, have you ever known any newly promoted team not give it everything on the opening day of the season?
For me the Jurys out, as it is on Erik Ten Haag and Amorin at Manchester United. Like McKenna they arrived into the Premier League with fantastic reputations, a league where you are pitting your wits against some of the best. For various reasons none of them have enhanced their standings - none of them will have turned rubbish overnight, but perhaps all three have found it either a step to far, or it has found them out, maybe they are not quite as good as everyone believed. |
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Reply | McKenna
at 14:32 9 Jun 2025
He's been a senior coach at United? I'm not sure that is a selling point for anyone since the time Fergie left.
In all seriousness I'm on the fence of just how good he is. Momentum is a huge thing in football, Keane had it at Sunderland, Jewell had it at Bradford and Wigan. We've had them both here on the back of those successes, and when things didn't go their way they were unable to turn it around.
He had two years of huge success, winning does become a habit and you don't become a bad manager over night. For me, to prove he is as good as some suggest and believe on here, I would need to see him get us back on track. It's in times of adversity when you see how good a manager is. For me the jury is out.
I would love KMK to stay and show US what he learnt last season in the Premier League and lead us straight back. |
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Reply | Marco Silva
at 07:40 2 Jun 2025
He may have achieved huge success at League 1 and Championship level, just as Ten Haag did in the Dutch league. At the moment the jury is out on both of them regarding Premier League quality. |
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Reply | hypothetical/rhetorical Question - I never know which is which
at 13:30 29 May 2025
For me, all things being equal I would have to go for the 2000 team every time. Agree with some of the comments about Marcus Stewart, but he single handedly won us the semifinal with his two goals at Bolton when we looked down and out.
Player wise I'm not sure any of the current side would have got into that team, remember they went on to finish 5th the following season they were that good a side. |
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Reply | Doubt anyone cares, but in case they do
at 14:13 28 May 2025
Martinez is on their payroll. All strikers miss chances, defenders make bad decisions and keepers screw up, that's part of the game, something a manager can try and put right on the training pitch.
Look at the level of abuse the ref got on here for not awarding the penalty v Leicester compared to errors our players made in the conceding of the equaliser. |
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Reply | Favourite game this season?
at 09:12 27 May 2025
The 2-2 draw with Villa at home. It was a game we created chances and at the time of the season where I genuinely believed we had a chance of competing and staying up. |
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Reply | We've been so damn easy to score against in the last few months
at 13:15 26 May 2025
We've conceded goals for fun in the last three seasons. Risk and reward was ok in League 1 and the Championship when the opposition aren't as clinical. Even when conceding we always fancied outscoring the opposition.
This season we have been blunt up front and out of our depth at the back. Add in the temptation to overplay in our own half and you have the perfect recipe for disaster. |
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Reply | All these EFL and PL games on sky
at 10:31 25 May 2025
Because people would watch it on a rainy afternoon rather than watching their local team. Look how non-league attendances rise on international fixture weekends. |
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Reply | All these EFL and PL games on sky
at 10:29 25 May 2025
The 3pm ban has to stay, its not about the game being shown live not selling out because it more than likely still would, but the effect on attendances further down the pyramid. [Post edited 25 May 10:29]
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Reply | What has actually gone wrong since Xmas?
at 14:29 20 May 2025
I would also add we haven't been good enough in the dugout. Yes, KMK is inexperienced at this level but he doesn't come out of this season with an enhanced CV. |
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Reply | I know we don't NEED to beat west ham
at 10:40 20 May 2025
Isn't there around £3 million riding on it? Any win coupled with a Leicester defeat moves us up a place.
That money in the PL is small beer, but we are in the Championship now. |
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Reply | O'Shea Player ofYear
at 10:37 20 May 2025
With such a low release clause it almost feels like Delap has only been on loan here. From Christmas onwards we have been resigned to him leaving despite the length of his contract.
Whether that has affected the voting, who knows. |
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Reply | Baffling the anti McKenna stuff creeping in
at 19:57 18 May 2025
It's not baffling but I wouldn't want him to go.
How can you consider it baffling when we have won one home game all season? I think we have to at least give him until Christmas, and hope he can rebuild confidence. He has done brilliantly for us the past two seasons, but when things are going well momentum builds. The test of a really good manager is when adversity strikes, so far the jury is out on whether he has the ability to turn things around.
Bigger names than KMK have been chewed in and spat out by the Premier League, success in other European Leagues or even the Championship doesn't necessarily mean you can cut it at Premier League level.
And as for the comment about that not being the way we do things at this club, George Burley was sacked less than 18 months after taking us into Europe. [Post edited 18 May 20:01]
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Reply | Just one more week of this left. (n/t)
at 17:25 18 May 2025
So you wasn't thrilled when we qualified under George Burley? That was a huge achievement but you're suggesting you didn't care... |
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