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Reply | Bob Vylan at Glastonbury..
at 10:04 2 Jul 2025
I didn't see any of that. I like Lucan, though he can make some rather out there comments. What was the gist of what was said? |
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Reply | Bob Vylan at Glastonbury..
at 09:26 2 Jul 2025
I missed all of this, who are we talking about, and what was said? If it's ok to ask such questions. |
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Reply | Bob Vylan at Glastonbury..
at 16:39 1 Jul 2025
My opinion is that the cases are quite different, in that one was directed at vulnerable people already under significant threat at the time, whilst the other was a reaction to mass slaughter carried out by one of the most advanced militaries in the world with tacit consent from our own government.
Lucy Connolly's sentence was ridiculous however, and only served to create a martyr for those who would destroy free speech for all but those who agree with them given the chance. Court sanctioned community work with refugees would have been a far more beneficial sentence to have been handed out, both for her and society. |
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Reply | Bob Vylan at Glastonbury..
at 14:42 1 Jul 2025
I didn't call for the death of anyone, and I wouldn't have joined in. But I don't believe the chant in question was directed at individuals but rather the IDF as an institution.
If I called for the death of Yigal Amir would I be an antisemite? He is Jewish after all. |
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Reply | Bob Vylan at Glastonbury..
at 14:23 1 Jul 2025
So what if they're all Jewish? What is the relevance? Last time I checked holding all Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the Israeli state was antisemitic. |
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Reply | Bob Vylan at Glastonbury..
at 14:18 1 Jul 2025
My interpretation was that the chant was calling for the death of the IDF as an institution rather than those serving within it. If it's antisemitic to chant death to the IDF, then surely Abbott's now deleted tweet is correct in your eyes? |
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Reply | Bob Vylan at Glastonbury..
at 13:55 1 Jul 2025
It's appears she's conflating the IDF with Jews in much the same way you did earlier in the thread. Did you have a concentration lapse? |
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Reply | Bob Vylan at Glastonbury..
at 10:26 1 Jul 2025
It would only constitute antisemitism if the chant was targeting the IDF because it was Jewish, rather than for the atrocities it is committing daily. The ethnicity of those committing war crimes is irrelevant, it's the war crimes people are angry about. |
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Reply | Bob Vylan at Glastonbury..
at 10:04 1 Jul 2025
I thought the point he was trying to make was that the audience were thick, and would chant along to anything, and that that is dangerous. All rather patronising and dismissive of the genuine and legitimate outrage people feel about an ally to the UK massacring people whilst they wait for food. |
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Reply | Bob Vylan at Glastonbury..
at 18:28 30 Jun 2025
I just heard Bob Dylan’s Masters of War, how has that man escaped jail the past 60 years?! “I hope that you die, and your death will come soon” - vile incitement to violence. |
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Reply | Bob Vylan at Glastonbury..
at 12:06 29 Jun 2025
That’s the official position of the British government is it not? I doubt it would be especially controversial, particularly as it’s actually happening. Do you not watch the news?
Disgust at genocide does not equate to support for Hamas et al, no matter how many times it’s used as a slur to deflect attention from the horror unfolding. |
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Reply | Glasto
at 09:18 26 Jun 2025
It's been highjacked by the very people who'd call you a "greebo" back in school for wanting to go to such an event. I'm sure there's still loads of great stuff going on, but the BBC coverage makes it look like a massive tvatfest. |
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Reply | Starmer’s judgement
at 11:42 24 Jun 2025
To be fair, ambiguity was the election strategy that gave Labour a huge majority. No need to set the agenda, that's what Nigel Farage is for. |
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Reply | And this years Nobel Prize Winner
at 09:02 24 Jun 2025
Obama winning the Noble Peace Prize simply for not being Dubya was ridiculous. His tenure as President also had no shortage of blood soaked disasters. He gets an enormous amount of credit for someone who was a pretty lousy President. |
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Reply | The rules of war- 2025
at 16:57 18 Jun 2025
Owen Jones may be a bit of a div, but I sincerely doubt he hates Jewish people, and it's quite insulting to victims of antisemitism to throw the accusation around so flippantly just because you don't agree with someone. |
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Reply | The rules of war- 2025
at 16:33 18 Jun 2025
The current Iranian regime is abhorrent, and the sooner they are overthrown by the Iranian people the better. But they are not irrational, nor are they suicidal. Ali Khamenei has issued a Fatwa against the use of nuclear weapons. The rest of what you've written just sounds like a jumble of Tommy Robinson soundbites. [Post edited 18 Jun 16:39]
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