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Reply | Gut feeling…
at 21:57 8 Jun 2025
What did he do as a premiership managers that makes him so attractive to established premiership teams. Did he make Ipswich harder to beat as he learned about the Premiership, did he show tactical brilliance that out thought other premiership managers, did he get a collective team performance above the sum of the parts, reinvent style of play to grind out points when needed, consistent knowledge of players that could perform a set task in a game, who to recruit to do this, how to change when it wasn't working.
People keep saying he us one of the best young managers around but objectively he didn't show that last year at all. People say we were expected to be relegated. Maybe, but the manner in how we effectively imploded after January wouldn't say to me Premiership clubs will be rushing to hire him. We are not talking about getting a club like Ipswich out of league 1 or even the championship, we are talking about managing an established premiership club who can't afford to get it wrong. He deserves a chance to build a premiership club with us because of what he's done for our club, but we're not objective. Others clubs are. |
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Reply | So McKenna’s release clause…. What do we reckon?
at 21:26 8 Jun 2025
Something that's never mentioned is he comes from a community that really values loyalty. Not just tokenism or platitudes, but genuinely does. It might just be that when he signed that contract he actually intended to see it through, just a thought. He's not under paid or under valued where he is. Maybe he wants to achieve what he was given a contract to achieve. |
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Reply | Uriah Rennie, RIP
at 21:18 8 Jun 2025
RIP only 65
I never saw him live but apparently he refereed 7 of our games with 3 wins and 2 draws. I remember him on MoD making some top decisions without all the technology to help. |
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Reply | McKenna linked with Brentford if Frank goes
at 16:54 4 Jun 2025
Outside of Ipswich his standing might not be as high as we assume after this year. Plenty don't think getting Ipswich out of League 1 was a great managerial achievement, though they obviously didn't know how bad we had become. Getting us straight into Prem is seen as an achievement by most. But most outside our club are seeing a very poor season for Ipswich under his management. Some will maybe make allowances for inexperience and resources available and think there is potential, but that's a risk few Premiership clubs will take. They can't afford to get it wrong.
No hate from me, I think he has done a great job for us but, objectively, what did he actually do as a Premiership manager that would make you want to give him a chance as an established Premiership club. Would we give someone a chance with his Premiership management profile if the positions were reversed and we were established but looking for a new manager. The gap between the Premiership and the championship is not just players. A great championship manager isn't necessarily a great Premiership manager. We can give him a chance to prove he actually is because of what he did for us, but that definitely doesn't mean other clubs will. I don't think other clubs want him at this stage so we can stop worrying about it.
This season is the real test of his potential. |
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Reply | Does anyone think Morsy goes to the middle east...
at 13:11 3 Jun 2025
No way does he have a couple of seasons at the top level left in him. That is why we failed on the Premiership. You can't have the luxury of a midfielder without any pace who has served us well in lower leagues. Every player has to be of premiership standard and pace and quick decision making and athleticism is the difference between championship and Premiership. He has been fantastic but well paid for it and there's no room for sentiment as we have found out. Not many can do the Premiership at 33 to 35 and I wouldn't say he is one, unfortunately. Hopefully he gets a big payday, but that shouldn't be the Club's priority. |
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Reply | Baffling the anti McKenna stuff creeping in
at 13:41 22 May 2025
And if you want change you have to want change for the better. The chances of us being able to recruit a manager that would be measurably better is miniscule. Also he has brought pride back to the club and given our youngsters a couple of seasons of winning and fun. Not to be underestimated for the good of the club at all. He also speaks articulately and honestly which is a refreshing change and he isn't stuck in a 20 year time warp or cynically using the club for a big pay day. So he does deserve some loyalty from us and a chance this year to progress. |
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Reply | Baffling the anti McKenna stuff creeping in
at 00:33 22 May 2025
Exactly. He won't change the way we are playing for a long term project. Clubs like Ipswich need to change the way they play to do whatever they need to do to survive. Then after 3 years of 100 million investment a year they can start playing a desired style. Established Premiership clubs can set a style but not those new to the league. If you are bottom of the Premiership food chain you need to do whatever it takes to survive. There's no evidence that we did anything other than continue with the same style.
Example - it took 5 matches to show that if you haven't got the top players then playing from the back like we did in league 1 and Championship is a mistake. Premiership players close down much quicker and score when you make a mistake. So why did we continue after 5 matches. We tried to coach it to success but you could coach to breach the difference in player quality but you can do different things. I agree KMc should be given a chance this year but I don't buy into it's a learning process and he'll greatly improve if we get back up. Loosing consistently becomes toxic and a bigger issue than not getting points. It's going to be a challenge to get straight back up. |
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Reply | Is everyone disappointed with the Delap 30m price?
at 10:02 20 May 2025
We could have said any player signing for us as a club who were likely to be relegated could only have a buy out clause of 100million if we are actually relegated, just in case they turn out to be brilliant. We could of said that, and guess what, nobody would sign for us. That's the point. You can't predict who us going to shoot up in value and if you are a club who is likely to be relegated you can't restrict players leaving with extreme buy outs. They just won't sign for us if you do that, if they have any potential to improve. The deal as reported was fine for when it was made. |
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Reply | Baffling the anti McKenna stuff creeping in
at 21:46 18 May 2025
Premiership managers worked out how to beat us by October, that's why they are Premiership managers. Premiership managers also know when other managers have worked it out and implement change quickly to stop loding first. That didn't happen. We didn't get harder to beat as the season progressed
All those say he will have learned alot from a season in the Premiership are missing the point that there is no evidence that he has learned anything tactically. Maybe a better understanding of what is required in the recruitment side.
There are loads of managers who have taken clubs into the Premiership with less resources and support who have got their team to perform better than we have this year. That's the fact of the situation. We had two seasons of great football and success but accepted some players wouldn't be up to Premiership standard but for some reason that success means a manager doesn't get judged the same when he didn't perform at a Premiership level. And anyone who said he did perform is delusional. |
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Reply | Congratulations to Palace & their fans
at 01:10 18 May 2025
A great win on a lovely sunny day with 84k well behaved fans for a club outside the usual suspects, should make all fans of decent non sportswashed football clubs have a quick smile, even though it wasn't their club. But no, we are discussing VAR decisions on our forum and the decisions of officials and Pep's future on the BBC. Toxic Premiership values spread far and wide in our sport. Well done Palace. That's us in 3 years. You heard it here first. |
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Reply | Delap to Manure
at 16:56 17 May 2025
I would only ho 50 50 he will become an established premiership player for a top prem club. He was a bright light in a struggling team this year and that has made him look better than he actually is at this stage in his career. He would have a field day in the championship but expectations will be different for him at a so called big club. He's not good enough for a system to be developed just for his strengths. It will be interesting to watch what develops. Wouldn't expect any loyalty from any player. Comes with developing a squad for the big boy league. |
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Reply | Delap to Manure
at 10:11 15 May 2025
Plenty of players have been in his position of a season showing potential then not carried through with it. He's significantly off being a top premiership striker and Manure is not the place to develop where he needs to develop. But a probable 25 million contract that sets him up for life whatever the outcome, why wouldn't you do it as a young lad. But agree,Newcastle would be a better fit. |
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Reply | Forty years ago today
at 12:19 11 May 2025
I was at school less than a mile away and my best man was at the match. I was there a week before and we did notice the rubbish below the wooden seats, so we couldn't have been the only ones. |
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Thread | That's Sport for You
at 22:27 10 May 2025
Last year watching Town for the 50th season was full of excitement, entertainment and ultimately success with a few heart stopping moments. All good.
My second love is Clare hurling. Last year we won the top division league for the first time in a decade and won the All Ireland final for the first time in 11 years and only 4th time in 140 year history. We won by the odd point in 70 in extra time in a final that most are saying was the best final in the history of hurling. I got a ticket fir it. This year we got relegated from top division finishing bottom winning one game and now have just been beaten at home tonight to make it almost certain we are out of the All Ireland. Beaten by a team that hasn't actually won a championship game for the last two years.
That's sport for you. |
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Reply | Ipswich never stood a chance
at 00:44 25 Apr 2025
And my nephew's rugby union team always just miss out on promotion to the league above which is full of teams with ex rugby league players who lost their contracts for being too violent. Every time they play one of them in the cup they lose by 20 points and get 3 or 4 bad injuries. Club has basically said if you want to play in that league join a team in the league. |
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Reply | I don't see McKenna going to Spurs but
at 22:25 23 Apr 2025
The teams that can afford him won't want him. Both Man U and Chelsea have shown it's not worth any team out if the top 10 taking a risk on an unproven at this level, and he is proven. Taking a team like Ipswich out of league 1 isn't seen as a big deal. Taking us to Premiership put him on the radar, but thus year he hasn't shown anything that would entice other clubs that might rake the risk, to pay what he now earns. |
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Reply | PL - 2 tiers
at 22:17 23 Apr 2025
Completely agree. Football is about passion and emotion and dare I say even entertainment. It's not actually that impirtant, so it's got to offer something. After 50 years of watching Ipswich I found this season exactly as you describe and have no desire to even try and get a ticket at the moment. The sanitised version of football that is the Premiership is not for me. Give me a weekend in Plymouth or that night in Barnsley or a Friday night at a packed PR scoring and conceeding goals, that's what it's about to me..
The sooner an elite European league is formed the better. |
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Reply | Alan Pardew
at 23:20 22 Apr 2025
Can anyone say we've improved over the season or got harder to beat. Is there anything we have done better in the last 5 games than we did in the first 5 games. That's the issue. Not how good we are, but have we improved with the experience. Our club wasn't staved of resources, nobody has unrealistic expectations, plenty of patience and faith and understanding of the challenges but where is the objective proof he is up to managing a premiership side. It's not there, is it, if we are honest. I'm not saying he isn't, but he hasn't shown it yet. League 1 and Championship are not the same for players or Managers. Premiership managers are at the very top of their profession and they have shown it. |
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