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|Pour one out...|
at 14:46 13 Dec 2019
She deleted her account in a strop, and has already started a new one. Stable.
|In Hindsight:: Where Labour went wrong|
at 14:43 13 Dec 2019
I'd love to believe this was down to the public thoroughly rejecting Corbyns brand of far-left politics and reaffirming it's belief in individual freedom, but I'm not that naive.
Biggest factor: They did better than expected in 2017 because they committed to respecting the EU ref and retained the Labour leave vote. But then followed this up with two years of frustrating and obstructing Brexit. In an election where honesty (and lack of) has been regularly highlighted as an issue, being seen to disregard such a fundamental manifesto promise was taken as a betrayal in Labour heartlands. Breaking a pledge is on a par with any positive lie.
Also: The same Labour heartlands simply did not relate to Corbyn's metropolitan middle-class brand of socialism. He has personal Charisma on a par with a dusty Geography teacher trying to keep his class from misbehaving. (That's not my line btw, I read it elsewhere today).
|Next Labour leader prediction thread|
at 13:20 13 Dec 2019
All depends who wins the upcoming battle between real Labour and #momentum Labour. I'm sure Corbz and McD will try to ensure a continuity candidate.
Sensible choices: Starmer, Cooper, Benn
Riskier: Jess Phillips
Avoid at all costs: McD, Dawn Butler, Rebecca Wrong-Daily
|Congratulations to the Conservatives.|
at 10:19 13 Dec 2019
No Boris is a centrist and on the liberal wing of the party. He was only aligned with the ERG over Brexit. You don't win Mayor of London twice in a row from the right.
If you go with the Boris is self interested and power seeking line, well the good news is this also encourages centrist politics, because under FPTP you need the centre ground to win elections.
|BJ has a chance to show compassion|
at 09:15 13 Dec 2019
He's powerful enough now to do pretty much what he likes, shape his government as he sees fit. Not be beholden to any wing of the party.
The new raft of MPs will include several working class voices too.
I'd NOT be very surprised if, Brexit aside, this Tory administration finds iteself rooted firmly in the centre.
*Edited to add a pretty crucial NOT to my final sentence! I'm tired.
[Post edited 13 Dec 9:54]
|Congratulations to the Conservatives.|
at 09:11 13 Dec 2019
Well if Johnson's speech just now is anything to go by, they are aware that lots of people lent a vote on this. There is now a swathe of Conservative MPs representing poorer working class areas that would no doubt like to keep their seat next time too, and maybe - it's a stretch I know - maybe will actually care about their constituents concerns.
I predict we will see a different Conservative party, moderate, investing more in the services people want. Not silly Labour numbers of course, just a gradual, sensible easing off of austerity.
I hope all those screeching all campaign about NHS cuts and selloffs will admit as much when they are shown to be wrong.
|Boris a born winner?|
at 08:59 13 Dec 2019
He does seem to have some sort of magic touch.
He's not the right-wing loon that opponents tried to lazily portray him as, and I think many voters had the sense to see through that.
|Wouldn't it be funny...|
at 00:29 13 Dec 2019
Last one underestimated the Tory seats slightly, one before that underestimated them even more.
|Just shows how pathetically thick the UK is.|
at 00:20 13 Dec 2019
Or, it shows what happens when you promise something as fundamental as leaving the single market and customs union, and then spend the next two years resisting and frustrating that process.
|1-0! 1-0! 1-0! 1-0! 1-0! 1-0! MIND THE GAP! (n/t)|
at 00:05 13 Dec 2019
I don’t think it’s clear cut that Brexit Party prevented a Sunderland Tory gain - many of those 3000 votes would be Ex Labour voters that were never going to vote Tory.
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