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Reply | Sargent
at 04:39 19 Jul 2025
When they last went up and then immediately came down they bought a whole load of expensive plodders. Old blokes on very high wages who were just looking to top up their pension.
Not all their business deals are profitable.
And if you want to annoy a Budgie, and who on here does n't, ask them about Nasmith. |
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Reply | Football fact
at 04:09 19 Jul 2025
But in any one season a quarter of the teams in any one of their leagues go up or down. So with odds like that it is hardly surprising really.
At least it is not boring. Good for the Mariners. |
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Reply | Any of you lot remember this
at 21:42 18 Jul 2025
What is not clear from the photo is that the wall next to the pitch was about 4-5 foot high.
So as a youngster you had to stand on a box to see over it.
I remember it all well.
My first game Dad took me to the front and gave me an apple crate to stand on, a programme to read and a bottle of Vimto. (Other bottles were not available). I was left at the front, standing on my crate at about 1.00. Dad and Uncle Paul went for several pints and rejoined me at about 2.30.
Cant remember the score.
I remember peeing against a bit of corragated at half time. As you did. |
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Reply | Alf's 5 forwards
at 17:18 18 Jul 2025
Larry Carberry !
Nobody calls their boy Larry any more.
I'm going to call my next child Larry to make up for it.
Mind you as I can remember watching him play that may not happen too soon. |
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Reply | 16 and 17 year olds will be able to vote in the next GE
at 04:12 18 Jul 2025
My grandson told me of a lecture he went to at his college in 2016. It was a discussion group and the topic was Brexit. The vote was then about to take place. Most argued for Remain.
The lecturer then offered to bake a cake for the next session if everybody agreed to vote Leave.
The cake won.
But in the end, out of about 20 there, only 3 could be bothered to vote anyway. |
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Reply | 16 and 17 year olds will be able to vote in the next GE
at 20:12 17 Jul 2025
No discussion on here about if it is right to give 16 year olds the vote.
Just speculation as to it's effect.
Personally having a grandson of that age and knowing what he and his mates think I believe Starmer may have shot himself in the foot on this matter. |
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Reply | Alf's 5 forwards
at 17:21 17 Jul 2025
As a winger I got a boll.king for going back over the line. "Get out there Fly. And when you get the ball run like ..ell for the touch line."
It was ever thus.
I was a better spin bowler than winger. But who in the 60's wanted spin ? Unless your name was Underwood all they wanted was pace. |
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Reply | Alf's 5 forwards
at 10:12 17 Jul 2025
Quite right. My mistake.
Then I compounded that mistake by giving you a downy when I meant to give an uppy. Sorry about that.
Can somebody else give Monty an uppy for me.
Thanks |
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Reply | Alf's 5 forwards
at 22:51 16 Jul 2025
Nope. Just living Ipswich Town and prompted by seeing the programme. |
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Thread | Alf's 5 forwards
at 22:36 16 Jul 2025
There was a short discussion on here a little while ago concerning an early Port Vale v Town programme.
There were comments concerning the surprise that we played with 5 forwards.
Prior to the '60's professional football teams in this country played with a system that is not seen today.
All teams had two wingers who were forbidden to go back over the half way line. The other forwards were a centre forward and two inside forwards who lined up either side of him.
These were counteracted by two full backs, who were also told not to go over the half way line, to take out the wingers. A centre half to challenge the centre forward and two half backs dealing with the inside forwards.
The system was, one team gets the ball and hoofs it out to the wing or the attack.
The winger runs flat out to the goal line where he crosses to the centre forward who either scores or knocks it down to the inside forwards.
All the teams played this system and had done so for decades. It was known as the W-M formation. which is what was shown in the programme.
In 1953 Hungary came to Wembley. England were undefeated by non British teams at home at the time. Hungary won 6-3 by playing a different system. At times 3-2-3-2 then 4-2-4. In the England team that day was a fullback called Ramsey.
However such innovative tactics were slow to catch on. After all, we were not going to be taught a lesson in football by Johnny Foreigner were we. I mean we invented the game !
When he was appointed as Ipswich manager Alf remembered that match and changed things.
He started by taking away the wingers (+2 players). Then he took away one of the inside forwards (+1 player). Instead he had twin strikers. Arguing that they could play off each other.
Then he turned to the defence. Again arguing that the centre forward could only pass one way at a time he therefore only needed two centre halves (+1 player). He retained the full backs because they still had to deal with the opposition wingers.
That left 4 players unused. These he strung across midfield. Most teams then rarely played through the middle. Long ball and pass out to wingers was king.
The result really was that Town were always playing effectively against 9 men because Ramsey had taken the opposition full backs right out of the game.
Even when Town started doing well in the lower divisions playing a different system the likes of the big clubs did not pay attention. After all, what could they possibly learn from a small town club from sleepy Suffolk?
Those that are paying attention might call his new formation 4-4-2. "Ramsey's wingless wonders" they were called. Doug Moran and Jimmy "Sticks" Leadbetter were his wide men in that midfield towards the end. But even in 1962 as Champions the press still referred to them as "Wingers".
If you are a Blue and you have not heard of his twin centre forwards of Crawford and Phillips then you should be ashamed. They scored 143 goals from 197 games and 161 goals from 296 games respectively.
In the Championship season of 61-62 Crawford scored 33. How much would a striker be worth who got that many in the EPL ? Oh and Phillips helped himself to 36 that year including cup games.
I thought that an explanation of Ramsey's achievements for those of who are not of a certain age might be appropriate. Along with the evolution of early tactics
Next time you are there go and tap his statue, just to acknowledge what the great man achieved for us. [Post edited 17 Jul 14:36]
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Reply | Delap, Hutchinson, Morsy, Tuanzebe, Burgess, Luongo
at 14:13 16 Jul 2025
There is a lot of negativity on here.
Yes
I would welcome a few additions and clearly we are over saturated with goalkeepers
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But personally I believe we have forwards here now that are quite capable of tearing most Champs defences a new one. |
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