| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ 20:53 - Jan 18 with 5247 views | kizaitfc |
Because I honestly dont, it seems to have very similar feelings.
Poor players continually being picked
Lack of quality coming in, in transfer window
Risk of losing anything good we currently have
Dwindling crowds
Going into every game including games against non league expecting to lose
Failure to string 5 passes together
An owner still too afraid to show his face and take responsibility
An arrogant manager who thinks he knows best and to hell with what fans think
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 20:57 - Jan 18 with 2995 views | Wonky |
PJ was worse, as soon as the first goal was conceded and you knew it was game over. |  | | |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:03 - Jan 18 with 2969 views | davblue |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 20:57 - Jan 18 by Wonky |
PJ was worse, as soon as the first goal was conceded and you knew it was game over. |
Yep, Jewells team loved to concede 3 or more.
At least we done concede shed loads.
I will miss our ability to grind out wins when he goes, for everyone wanting a manager who plays brilliant football, there's a place for grinding out wins. |  | | |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:05 - Jan 18 with 2962 views | Herbivore |
Yes, I feel better than I did under PJ (adrift at the bottom with a team full of loanees and mercenaries on short term deals) and Keane (15 games without a win, more mercenaries and turgid performances from an expensive squad). It's not great, far from it, but it's a way away from those desperate times imo. |  |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:10 - Jan 18 with 2945 views | kizaitfc |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:03 - Jan 18 by davblue |
Yep, Jewells team loved to concede 3 or more.
At least we done concede shed loads.
I will miss our ability to grind out wins when he goes, for everyone wanting a manager who plays brilliant football, there's a place for grinding out wins. |
That is without doubt the only thing keeping us and Micks job alive
However even those grinding 1-0 wins isnt particularly entertaining an thats been an issue since he has been here for a lot of people | |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:10 - Jan 18 with 2946 views | Swansea_Blue |
10x better. Keane was the worse thing that's happened to this club in the modern era and PJ was useless. |  |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:11 - Jan 18 with 2929 views | Mullet |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:10 - Jan 18 by Swansea_Blue |
10x better. Keane was the worse thing that's happened to this club in the modern era and PJ was useless. |
and worse than Keane, which is perversely impressive. |  |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:18 - Jan 18 with 2891 views | Steve_M |
We're inconsistent at the moment though, we're not losing five, six matches on the trot as we did under those two. They also had far more of ME's money to fritter away.
I sell think we're more like the end of Magilton's time in charge. We have mainly good Championship players but too many are in poor form or in decline. Two or three judicious signings for the start off next season and it looks a good deal better. ME had given every manger one good transfer window, so I expect the next one to get that.
As per my blog, we are likely to repeat the cycle in 18 months time though. [Post edited 18 Jan 2017 21:41]
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:22 - Jan 18 with 2858 views | The_Romford_Blue |
It's inconsistent and when we're bad, we are terrible.
But it's 79361 times better than Keane and PJ |  |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:32 - Jan 18 with 2816 views | davblue |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:10 - Jan 18 by kizaitfc |
That is without doubt the only thing keeping us and Micks job alive
However even those grinding 1-0 wins isnt particularly entertaining an thats been an issue since he has been here for a lot of people |
Yep all true. People wanted someone who would grind out results and get dirty wins at times but it has gone too far the other way. Mick knows it but I'm not sure he has the answer. | | | |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:34 - Jan 18 with 2793 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:10 - Jan 18 by kizaitfc |
That is without doubt the only thing keeping us and Micks job alive
However even those grinding 1-0 wins isnt particularly entertaining an thats been an issue since he has been here for a lot of people |
Entertainment wise has generally been better this season.
Although you wouldn't believe three of us who went to Sheffield Wednesday and told you we were excellent that day. So there are good performances. Blackburn at home Saturday. Or will you not believe that wasn't bad either? | |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:38 - Jan 18 with 2768 views | davblue |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:34 - Jan 18 by The_Romford_Blue |
Entertainment wise has generally been better this season.
Although you wouldn't believe three of us who went to Sheffield Wednesday and told you we were excellent that day. So there are good performances. Blackburn at home Saturday. Or will you not believe that wasn't bad either? |
The games I've seen only Norwich, QPR were decent, the rest were utter dross. Appreciate you have been to more than me though. | | | |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:41 - Jan 18 with 2737 views | kizaitfc |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:34 - Jan 18 by The_Romford_Blue |
Entertainment wise has generally been better this season.
Although you wouldn't believe three of us who went to Sheffield Wednesday and told you we were excellent that day. So there are good performances. Blackburn at home Saturday. Or will you not believe that wasn't bad either? |
there has not been one entertaining game from us this season
Yes some good results, but have we ever been entertaining?
Saturday was probably the best we've seen in all honesty but we have to play better footballer to win the fans over. | |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:43 - Jan 18 with 2725 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:41 - Jan 18 by kizaitfc |
there has not been one entertaining game from us this season
Yes some good results, but have we ever been entertaining?
Saturday was probably the best we've seen in all honesty but we have to play better footballer to win the fans over. |
But that's where you are wrong.
We were excellent at Sheffield Wednesday. You weren't there but you refuse to believe that. | |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:44 - Jan 18 with 2715 views | Herbivore |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:41 - Jan 18 by kizaitfc |
there has not been one entertaining game from us this season
Yes some good results, but have we ever been entertaining?
Saturday was probably the best we've seen in all honesty but we have to play better footballer to win the fans over. |
Not one entertaining game? Now you're just being silly. | |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:45 - Jan 18 with 2706 views | Sarge |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 20:57 - Jan 18 by Wonky |
PJ was worse, as soon as the first goal was conceded and you knew it was game over. |
Get that feeling now. I don't know the stats but our wins from behind this season must be pretty shocking. If we concede first that's pretty much it. | | | |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:49 - Jan 18 with 2672 views | Darth_Koont |
I think you're forgetting how sparse the youngsters were around the squad and how old, expensive or on loan the rest of them were. That felt like a rip it up and start again moment, which I don't think a new manager would have to do now barring three or four players.
Back then, not only did it feel like we were heading for League One but that we were unlikely to bounce back and would have to rebuild down there. That's difficult enough for a club with the support of Sheffield United - for us it could have been more terminal. Mick still deserves a lot of credit and respect for making that squad immediately competitive even though we still needed to get rid of most of them. |  |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:15 - Jan 18 with 2590 views | BorisOrTrevor |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:49 - Jan 18 by Darth_Koont |
I think you're forgetting how sparse the youngsters were around the squad and how old, expensive or on loan the rest of them were. That felt like a rip it up and start again moment, which I don't think a new manager would have to do now barring three or four players.
Back then, not only did it feel like we were heading for League One but that we were unlikely to bounce back and would have to rebuild down there. That's difficult enough for a club with the support of Sheffield United - for us it could have been more terminal. Mick still deserves a lot of credit and respect for making that squad immediately competitive even though we still needed to get rid of most of them. |
I have to ask myself what have we done to deserve this, Keane then Jewell (the worset by a mile) and now this ?! It's purgatory. I wish I could be s hit like some and switch clubs, but I can't. Stuck with it like a millstone. Went to Chelsea game recently at the Bridge and it was like the bit in Wizard of Oz where it goes from black and white to colour after trudging to Portman Rd. |  |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:18 - Jan 18 with 2565 views | Tollycobbold |
At least with RK, you'd have known everyone of the players from last night would now be dead |  | | |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:19 - Jan 18 with 2557 views | NewcyBlue |
I feel so much better.
I am lying in bed next to a beautiful woman, I have a son who just by saying "Daddy" makes my heart sing, I earn more money than I ever have done in my life.
Town will win some games and lose some games. Managers will come and go. I may even get to the odd game.
All in all, it is just a game and I am not worried. Promotion or relegation, I will always support the Town, I will do my hardest to make my little boy a Town fan, and he can share that with me in all its g(l)ory... |  |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:24 - Jan 18 with 2529 views | chripswich |
I think its much worse than then..
MM inherited a side that was capable of much more than anything the current side could do..i don t buy into him being some sort of saviour at that time, i think most of us could have kept that particular side in the division.
Now? well unless someone else can come in and restore some pride and most importantly confidence we're f****d..MM's tactics have knocked every ounce of flare out of this team. Not that they have much anyway.. |  |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:35 - Jan 18 with 2475 views | Darth_Koont |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:15 - Jan 18 by BorisOrTrevor |
I have to ask myself what have we done to deserve this, Keane then Jewell (the worset by a mile) and now this ?! It's purgatory. I wish I could be s hit like some and switch clubs, but I can't. Stuck with it like a millstone. Went to Chelsea game recently at the Bridge and it was like the bit in Wizard of Oz where it goes from black and white to colour after trudging to Portman Rd. |
We've chopped and changed our approach since Marcus Evans has been here. Suddenly having money destroyed Magic (or specifically the midfield), having money and then having it turned off half-way through crippled Keane even if he probably wouldn't have spent it wisely, then we had Jewell who went from investing in a long-term approach to blowing money on a short-term approach with loanees then back again (could have been the other way around but it was rudderless all the same). Now Mick's task has changed given competitive hasn't been enough because the entertainment has been poor and he's had to try for a possibly uncomfortable mix of youth and possession-based football without the talisman of Murphy who's covered many shortcomings in the squad before then.
It's a far cry from the Swansea approach that elevated them to the Premier League and established them there. Forget the last couple of years as they've struggled to take the next step and have slipped back, but they worked from a very clear vision that didn't change much even with a new manager and new funds came in.
I think we have learnt a lot of good things over this time and I like the sense behind the 5-point plan. We're just 4 or 5 years too late and we've exhausted too much patience along the way. Not to mention p!ssed millions up the wall that could benefit us with such a vision.
The key is that the new manager must come in with that 5 -point plan as the strategy, something approaching Steve M's manifesto on the pitch, and probably a bit more cash. Not sh!t or bust but I think ME needs to give a new vision (and manager) time and resources before we again jump to the next quick fix. | |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:38 - Jan 18 with 2460 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:24 - Jan 18 by chripswich |
I think its much worse than then..
MM inherited a side that was capable of much more than anything the current side could do..i don t buy into him being some sort of saviour at that time, i think most of us could have kept that particular side in the division.
Now? well unless someone else can come in and restore some pride and most importantly confidence we're f****d..MM's tactics have knocked every ounce of flare out of this team. Not that they have much anyway.. |
It's not worse
It just isn't | |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:39 - Jan 18 with 2443 views | Darth_Koont |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:24 - Jan 18 by chripswich |
I think its much worse than then..
MM inherited a side that was capable of much more than anything the current side could do..i don t buy into him being some sort of saviour at that time, i think most of us could have kept that particular side in the division.
Now? well unless someone else can come in and restore some pride and most importantly confidence we're f****d..MM's tactics have knocked every ounce of flare out of this team. Not that they have much anyway.. |
At the end with Jewell, we didn't own half of those players and couldn't afford them either. Totally unsustainable AND we were rock bottom - it may feel worse now because we've been starved of positives over the vast majority of the last 15 years but objectively there's no comparison. | |
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:44 - Jan 18 with 2403 views | StokieBlue |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 21:22 - Jan 18 by The_Romford_Blue |
It's inconsistent and when we're bad, we are terrible.
But it's 79361 times better than Keane and PJ |
I would say the Fulham and Lincoln away matches were right up there with the RK and PJ era.
Not every match is but those two were some of the worst displays I have seen from town.
It's sad :(.
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| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:49 - Jan 18 with 2388 views | Radlett_blue |
| Can anyone seriously say they feel better now then they did with RK or PJ on 22:35 - Jan 18 by Darth_Koont |
We've chopped and changed our approach since Marcus Evans has been here. Suddenly having money destroyed Magic (or specifically the midfield), having money and then having it turned off half-way through crippled Keane even if he probably wouldn't have spent it wisely, then we had Jewell who went from investing in a long-term approach to blowing money on a short-term approach with loanees then back again (could have been the other way around but it was rudderless all the same). Now Mick's task has changed given competitive hasn't been enough because the entertainment has been poor and he's had to try for a possibly uncomfortable mix of youth and possession-based football without the talisman of Murphy who's covered many shortcomings in the squad before then.
It's a far cry from the Swansea approach that elevated them to the Premier League and established them there. Forget the last couple of years as they've struggled to take the next step and have slipped back, but they worked from a very clear vision that didn't change much even with a new manager and new funds came in.
I think we have learnt a lot of good things over this time and I like the sense behind the 5-point plan. We're just 4 or 5 years too late and we've exhausted too much patience along the way. Not to mention p!ssed millions up the wall that could benefit us with such a vision.
The key is that the new manager must come in with that 5 -point plan as the strategy, something approaching Steve M's manifesto on the pitch, and probably a bit more cash. Not sh!t or bust but I think ME needs to give a new vision (and manager) time and resources before we again jump to the next quick fix. |
trouble is, ME hasn't been very good at picking managers, has he? Yes, we'd all like to blame that on Dodgy Harry, but if Mick does go, I have certain qualms over the likely replacement, especially as Evans won't give him much in the way of transfer funds. |  |
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