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French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 22:19 - Apr 23 by Guthrum
He wasn't in Hollande's party for long.
Besides which, if his views are popular in France - he's leading the vote at the moment. Hollande, on the other hand, was so hugely unpopular he daren't stand again.
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 22:20 - Apr 23 by GlasgowBlue
Precisely.
Still think he's a naturally occurring Blair-type "revolutionary" - in contrast to the right-wing/chauvinist populist version - rather than a put-up job.
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 21:01 - Apr 23 by J2BLUE
So was Brexit against the wishes of Rothschild etc, in line with their wishes or irrelevant because we're not going to leave anyway?
Two out of three of those.
Brexit was against the wishes of the Rothschild banking set up but irrelevant anyway because we're not going to leave* because it was against the wishes of the Rothschilds.
*In any meaningful way. See my Brexit era posts for clarification.
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 22:33 - Apr 23 by caught-in-limbo
Two out of three of those.
Brexit was against the wishes of the Rothschild banking set up but irrelevant anyway because we're not going to leave* because it was against the wishes of the Rothschilds.
*In any meaningful way. See my Brexit era posts for clarification.
The Rothschilds no longer have any real financial clout.
Why do you persist with this? Show me some evidence of their actual net worth which gives them the means to do this. They were very powerful, times have changed.
SB
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French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 22:37 - Apr 23 with 730 views
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 21:06 - Apr 23 by BlueBadger
Cil is essentially the Flashblue of conspiracists. No matter what's actually going on, there'll always be an 'actually my source is now telling...' around the corner.
I said Brexit wouldn't happen. Nearly a year on, it still hasn't happened. I might be wrong in the long run - we'll see, but to date I'm right and I've seen nothing to convince me of changing that view.
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 22:33 - Apr 23 by caught-in-limbo
Two out of three of those.
Brexit was against the wishes of the Rothschild banking set up but irrelevant anyway because we're not going to leave* because it was against the wishes of the Rothschilds.
*In any meaningful way. See my Brexit era posts for clarification.
Can you set out your criteria before negotiations begin so we can see if you're right with clarity?
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 21:43 - Apr 23 by GlasgowBlue
Far too simplistic badger. Has he endorsed LaPen?
Le Pen is the leader of a vile racist party. I wouldn't endorse her in any way whatsoever. But I can see very clearly that Macron is a fabricated candidate who was produced to save France's membership of the EU.
Badger is a simplified version of Mullet. A Guardian-fed neoliberal halfwit.
Just retaliating in kind. Not what I usually do, but Badger's stupidity is shining through more brilliantly than usual yet he's still trying to claim some sort of intellectual superiority.
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 22:39 - Apr 23 by J2BLUE
Can you set out your criteria before negotiations begin so we can see if you're right with clarity?
They haven't changed since the days of Brexit. i posted them about three or four times then. Dig them out for yourself and feel happy to wave them in my face if I'm wrong.
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 21:09 - Apr 23 by GlasgowBlue
Yep. The French system is designed to stop an extremist ever being President.
Thankfully the Left Winger Melenchon didn't make it through with LePen. Both want out of the EU which would have seen the whole thing crumble which wouldn't be good for any of us.
So is Glassers saying that a Lexit/Frexit is a terrible thing whereas Brexit is ok.....tres confused !
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 22:37 - Apr 23 by caught-in-limbo
I said Brexit wouldn't happen. Nearly a year on, it still hasn't happened. I might be wrong in the long run - we'll see, but to date I'm right and I've seen nothing to convince me of changing that view.
Please tell me who "my source" is.
It was never going to happen by now though? Depending by what 'happens' means of course.
If we haven't meaningfully cut some of the existing ties by the end of 2019 then you'll be correct. I for one hope you are right
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French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 23:25 - Apr 23 with 657 views
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 22:36 - Apr 23 by StokieBlue
The Rothschilds no longer have any real financial clout.
Why do you persist with this? Show me some evidence of their actual net worth which gives them the means to do this. They were very powerful, times have changed.
SB
"The family empire is divided among a web of descendants and a few external shareholders. The ownership structure is opaque, which makes it hard to estimate the family wealth, although it is one of the richest in the world."
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 23:25 - Apr 23 by caught-in-limbo
"The family empire is divided among a web of descendants and a few external shareholders. The ownership structure is opaque, which makes it hard to estimate the family wealth, although it is one of the richest in the world."
"The family’s estate has been badly hit by the global downturn: the Rothschild group saw profits fall by almost half in the year to the end of March 2009"
Edit - this is the latest on their wealth: no-one knows is the answer!
"An earlier version of this article cited an estimate of the combined net worth of the Rothschilds at $350 billion. That estimate came from a source that does not meet standards, and we have consequently retracted it. Similarly, an estimate that the Rothschilds controlled more than $2 trillion worth in assets was also inadequately sourced and retracted."
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French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 23:31 - Apr 23 with 644 views
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 23:30 - Apr 23 by ElderGrizzly
That was in 2009 accounts. What about in 2017?
"The family’s estate has been badly hit by the global downturn: the Rothschild group saw profits fall by almost half in the year to the end of March 2009"
Edit - this is the latest on their wealth: no-one knows is the answer!
"An earlier version of this article cited an estimate of the combined net worth of the Rothschilds at $350 billion. That estimate came from a source that does not meet standards, and we have consequently retracted it. Similarly, an estimate that the Rothschilds controlled more than $2 trillion worth in assets was also inadequately sourced and retracted."
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Profits fell by almost half, fine. Did they lose half their assets too?
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 23:21 - Apr 23 by ElderGrizzly
Well he's preferable to Le Pen continuing her dangerous rhetoric on Islam and Muslims.
She's a racist,anti-Muslim & a xenophobe and there will be worse to come from her party as GB said earlier.
That's one thing which gets me about people who support (supposedly) anti-establishment, iconoclastic candidates like Le Pen, Hofer, Wilders, even Trump and Farage/Nuttall - completely ignoring the extremely distasteful baggage so many of them carry around with them.
Fair enough if you want to try something new politically, but why pander to xenophobes, extreme nationalists and even dressed-up neo-Nazis in the process?
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 23:07 - Apr 23 by BanksterDebtSlave
The March of the men/women in grey suits........to save us from the sins (2008) of the men and women in grey suits .
You're assuming these people are a monolithic bloc, working in concert, rather than a disparate collection of individuals, some of whom got carried away with greed and opportunism, ending up trashing the system in the selfish carelessness of their lust, some others being left to clear up the mess and keep the system functioning.
There may be other viable systems, but so far none of those tried have proven really any more successful than the one we have (because ruthless ambition and cupidity are not limited to capitalists).
French 'exit poll' due at 7pm on 23:39 - Apr 23 by Guthrum
That's one thing which gets me about people who support (supposedly) anti-establishment, iconoclastic candidates like Le Pen, Hofer, Wilders, even Trump and Farage/Nuttall - completely ignoring the extremely distasteful baggage so many of them carry around with them.
Fair enough if you want to try something new politically, but why pander to xenophobes, extreme nationalists and even dressed-up neo-Nazis in the process?
Their presence on the political spectrum, especially if it's a popular one, enables centrist parties to move creep further and further to the right and still claim to be centrist.
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