| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:12 - May 26 with 3214 views | Kieran_Knows |
Interesting move. Wonder whether he'll help out with keepers as well. |  |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:19 - May 26 with 3120 views | BonneNIL |
Manure is a club rotten to the core and is failing utterly. I am not particularly confident that hiring their ex-players as coaches, or bringing in their kids is going to benefit us.
Grant played just a couple of games for Manure and was only ever a lower league stopper himself. It's a bit like the Gary Roberts thing, just what is this guy bringing to the table other than needing a job and McKenna giving him one? Who's looking at this? Paul Cook brought in a vastly underqualified coaching team and it hurt badly, if we aren't going to learn from that then we will run into the same problems.
No more jobs for the boys, and that's including our own. We should be going out and getting the best coaches, not hiring an ex Manure reserve keeper because he needs a job now. |  |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:20 - May 26 with 3072 views | Kieran_Knows |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:23 - May 26 with 3011 views | ScottCandage |
It seems a little weird that a keeper is going to be working mainly with the forwards. I'm sure that Grant will be familiar with the strategies that McK knows from ManU, and can help implement them. But I would have thought Grant would work with the goalies.
It is interesting. [Post edited 27 May 2022 1:08]
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:24 - May 26 with 2988 views | BlueStreak |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:19 - May 26 by BonneNIL |
Manure is a club rotten to the core and is failing utterly. I am not particularly confident that hiring their ex-players as coaches, or bringing in their kids is going to benefit us.
Grant played just a couple of games for Manure and was only ever a lower league stopper himself. It's a bit like the Gary Roberts thing, just what is this guy bringing to the table other than needing a job and McKenna giving him one? Who's looking at this? Paul Cook brought in a vastly underqualified coaching team and it hurt badly, if we aren't going to learn from that then we will run into the same problems.
No more jobs for the boys, and that's including our own. We should be going out and getting the best coaches, not hiring an ex Manure reserve keeper because he needs a job now. |
You think he actually needs a job?
McKenna has hardly been a failure. Chill out. Typical fan being negative before knowing anything about it all. Pathetic.
Btw - utterly failing? I wish we were utterly failing like Man United have over the last 30 years. |  | | |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:26 - May 26 with 2961 views | Illinoisblue |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:19 - May 26 by BonneNIL |
Manure is a club rotten to the core and is failing utterly. I am not particularly confident that hiring their ex-players as coaches, or bringing in their kids is going to benefit us.
Grant played just a couple of games for Manure and was only ever a lower league stopper himself. It's a bit like the Gary Roberts thing, just what is this guy bringing to the table other than needing a job and McKenna giving him one? Who's looking at this? Paul Cook brought in a vastly underqualified coaching team and it hurt badly, if we aren't going to learn from that then we will run into the same problems.
No more jobs for the boys, and that's including our own. We should be going out and getting the best coaches, not hiring an ex Manure reserve keeper because he needs a job now. |
Maybe, just maybe, McKenna knows more than you do. |  |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:27 - May 26 with 2931 views | itfcjoe |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:19 - May 26 by BonneNIL |
Manure is a club rotten to the core and is failing utterly. I am not particularly confident that hiring their ex-players as coaches, or bringing in their kids is going to benefit us.
Grant played just a couple of games for Manure and was only ever a lower league stopper himself. It's a bit like the Gary Roberts thing, just what is this guy bringing to the table other than needing a job and McKenna giving him one? Who's looking at this? Paul Cook brought in a vastly underqualified coaching team and it hurt badly, if we aren't going to learn from that then we will run into the same problems.
No more jobs for the boys, and that's including our own. We should be going out and getting the best coaches, not hiring an ex Manure reserve keeper because he needs a job now. |
He’s already got his A Licence, was hoping to be on next cohort of Pro Licence and is doing the LMA qualification in football management and working towards a Business degree currently
That’s hardly jobs for the boys like we saw last season |  |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:27 - May 26 with 2917 views | STYG |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:23 - May 26 by ScottCandage |
It seems a little weird that a keeper is going to be working mainly with the forwards. I'm sure that Grant will be familiar with the strategies that McK knows from ManU, and can help implement them. But I would have thought Grant would work with the goalies.
It is interesting. [Post edited 27 May 2022 1:08]
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What's this got to do with Evans?
I assume you meant Grant!
I read an article a few years back that more and more top clubs were allowing goalkeeper coaches to spend times with the forwards to help them identify how the goalkeeper would see things, position themselves, when they would gamble etc and this was to help the forwards gain narrow margins in their decision making.
I would imagine it's incredibly helpful to have a top young coach with all the badges, who has been a goalkeeper at both the highest level and lower leagues and is praised for his character and communication, helping our forwards determine where they may have a 10% higher chance of converting a chance. [Post edited 26 May 2022 15:30]
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:28 - May 26 with 2908 views | mo_itfc |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:26 - May 26 by Illinoisblue |
Maybe, just maybe, McKenna knows more than you do. |
Maybe not??
Has anyone thought about hiring the collective minds of TWTD as first-team coaches?!
Imagine the carnage... | |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:28 - May 26 with 2892 views | FBI |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:19 - May 26 by BonneNIL |
Manure is a club rotten to the core and is failing utterly. I am not particularly confident that hiring their ex-players as coaches, or bringing in their kids is going to benefit us.
Grant played just a couple of games for Manure and was only ever a lower league stopper himself. It's a bit like the Gary Roberts thing, just what is this guy bringing to the table other than needing a job and McKenna giving him one? Who's looking at this? Paul Cook brought in a vastly underqualified coaching team and it hurt badly, if we aren't going to learn from that then we will run into the same problems.
No more jobs for the boys, and that's including our own. We should be going out and getting the best coaches, not hiring an ex Manure reserve keeper because he needs a job now. |
1. Nope. Not this.
2. Manure? How old are you? |  |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:30 - May 26 with 2838 views | clive_baker |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:19 - May 26 by BonneNIL |
Manure is a club rotten to the core and is failing utterly. I am not particularly confident that hiring their ex-players as coaches, or bringing in their kids is going to benefit us.
Grant played just a couple of games for Manure and was only ever a lower league stopper himself. It's a bit like the Gary Roberts thing, just what is this guy bringing to the table other than needing a job and McKenna giving him one? Who's looking at this? Paul Cook brought in a vastly underqualified coaching team and it hurt badly, if we aren't going to learn from that then we will run into the same problems.
No more jobs for the boys, and that's including our own. We should be going out and getting the best coaches, not hiring an ex Manure reserve keeper because he needs a job now. |
That's a little unfair given Grant wouldn't have signed for United to be anything more than a back up, and probably had half an eye on his path into coaching when moving there. Also you don't sign a goalkeeping coach based on their credentials as a goalkeeper, or David Seaman would be taking more calls from Premier League clubs than he does from Dancing on Ice. That said, lets not forget Grant spent his whole career at a higher level than we're currently operating at.
He's clerly been recruited because McKenna rates him as a coach having worked with him. |  |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:30 - May 26 with 2837 views | saffers12 |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:27 - May 26 by itfcjoe |
He’s already got his A Licence, was hoping to be on next cohort of Pro Licence and is doing the LMA qualification in football management and working towards a Business degree currently
That’s hardly jobs for the boys like we saw last season |
Joe you know so much more about coaching qualifications, if so many are getting their A Licences does that not mean we have so many with the same level of knowledge, where is are the different coaches, if the curriculum is the same for all? |  | | |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:32 - May 26 with 2802 views | Garv |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:19 - May 26 by BonneNIL |
Manure is a club rotten to the core and is failing utterly. I am not particularly confident that hiring their ex-players as coaches, or bringing in their kids is going to benefit us.
Grant played just a couple of games for Manure and was only ever a lower league stopper himself. It's a bit like the Gary Roberts thing, just what is this guy bringing to the table other than needing a job and McKenna giving him one? Who's looking at this? Paul Cook brought in a vastly underqualified coaching team and it hurt badly, if we aren't going to learn from that then we will run into the same problems.
No more jobs for the boys, and that's including our own. We should be going out and getting the best coaches, not hiring an ex Manure reserve keeper because he needs a job now. |
Maybe McKenna (and the club) has more to go on than your wild theory that Lee Grant is a clone of Gary Roberts. |  |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:32 - May 26 with 2802 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:19 - May 26 by BonneNIL |
Manure is a club rotten to the core and is failing utterly. I am not particularly confident that hiring their ex-players as coaches, or bringing in their kids is going to benefit us.
Grant played just a couple of games for Manure and was only ever a lower league stopper himself. It's a bit like the Gary Roberts thing, just what is this guy bringing to the table other than needing a job and McKenna giving him one? Who's looking at this? Paul Cook brought in a vastly underqualified coaching team and it hurt badly, if we aren't going to learn from that then we will run into the same problems.
No more jobs for the boys, and that's including our own. We should be going out and getting the best coaches, not hiring an ex Manure reserve keeper because he needs a job now. |
Clearly it didn't work for Cook, regarding his staff, but you can see why he initially had Roberts with him, he had signed him 2/3 times previous and obviously wanted someone with him who he could trust, whilst he couldn't get his assistant.
Craney, for as much as people will go 'duh, kitman', was a very good coach and well liked by the players from what I heard, so think there's been some really unfair criticism on him. | |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:33 - May 26 with 2767 views | itfcjoe |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:30 - May 26 by saffers12 |
Joe you know so much more about coaching qualifications, if so many are getting their A Licences does that not mean we have so many with the same level of knowledge, where is are the different coaches, if the curriculum is the same for all? |
They teach you how to coach, how to run engaging sessions, how to manage people and the like - not what to coach. How to prepare sessions, different facets of it all.
To have his A license he must have had to do significant time on the grass | |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:33 - May 26 with 2745 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:19 - May 26 by BonneNIL |
Manure is a club rotten to the core and is failing utterly. I am not particularly confident that hiring their ex-players as coaches, or bringing in their kids is going to benefit us.
Grant played just a couple of games for Manure and was only ever a lower league stopper himself. It's a bit like the Gary Roberts thing, just what is this guy bringing to the table other than needing a job and McKenna giving him one? Who's looking at this? Paul Cook brought in a vastly underqualified coaching team and it hurt badly, if we aren't going to learn from that then we will run into the same problems.
No more jobs for the boys, and that's including our own. We should be going out and getting the best coaches, not hiring an ex Manure reserve keeper because he needs a job now. |
He spent most of his career in the Championship and PL though didn't he |  |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:34 - May 26 with 2728 views | saffers12 |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:33 - May 26 by itfcjoe |
They teach you how to coach, how to run engaging sessions, how to manage people and the like - not what to coach. How to prepare sessions, different facets of it all.
To have his A license he must have had to do significant time on the grass |
ah ok thanks for information | | | |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:40 - May 26 with 2640 views | homer_123 |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:23 - May 26 by ScottCandage |
It seems a little weird that a keeper is going to be working mainly with the forwards. I'm sure that Grant will be familiar with the strategies that McK knows from ManU, and can help implement them. But I would have thought Grant would work with the goalies.
It is interesting. [Post edited 27 May 2022 1:08]
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Not weird at all. Defenders for example can make very good coaches for forwards, helping them to understand how to make their runs, movements and positioning more difficult for defenders.
No different for Keepers to be able to provide similar advice etc. |  |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:40 - May 26 with 2639 views | StokieBlue |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:19 - May 26 by BonneNIL |
Manure is a club rotten to the core and is failing utterly. I am not particularly confident that hiring their ex-players as coaches, or bringing in their kids is going to benefit us.
Grant played just a couple of games for Manure and was only ever a lower league stopper himself. It's a bit like the Gary Roberts thing, just what is this guy bringing to the table other than needing a job and McKenna giving him one? Who's looking at this? Paul Cook brought in a vastly underqualified coaching team and it hurt badly, if we aren't going to learn from that then we will run into the same problems.
No more jobs for the boys, and that's including our own. We should be going out and getting the best coaches, not hiring an ex Manure reserve keeper because he needs a job now. |
You an Elephant should have your own thread and we can all see how negative it can get with you feeding each other.
A small possibility that it could even generate it's own gravity and become a negativity singularity.
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:40 - May 26 with 2641 views | ITFC_Josh |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:23 - May 26 by ScottCandage |
It seems a little weird that a keeper is going to be working mainly with the forwards. I'm sure that Grant will be familiar with the strategies that McK knows from ManU, and can help implement them. But I would have thought Grant would work with the goalies.
It is interesting. [Post edited 27 May 2022 1:08]
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How’s it weird? It makes perfect sense. Who knows about the weakness of a GK to improve strikers and give them tips on how and where to finish….a GK. He’s gone through all of his qualifications like the rest of all the coaches, he just happened to be a good GK during his career. |  | | |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:47 - May 26 with 2528 views | BiGDonnie |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:19 - May 26 by BonneNIL |
Manure is a club rotten to the core and is failing utterly. I am not particularly confident that hiring their ex-players as coaches, or bringing in their kids is going to benefit us.
Grant played just a couple of games for Manure and was only ever a lower league stopper himself. It's a bit like the Gary Roberts thing, just what is this guy bringing to the table other than needing a job and McKenna giving him one? Who's looking at this? Paul Cook brought in a vastly underqualified coaching team and it hurt badly, if we aren't going to learn from that then we will run into the same problems.
No more jobs for the boys, and that's including our own. We should be going out and getting the best coaches, not hiring an ex Manure reserve keeper because he needs a job now. |
Shut up |  |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:52 - May 26 with 2471 views | Mookamoo |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:40 - May 26 by ITFC_Josh |
How’s it weird? It makes perfect sense. Who knows about the weakness of a GK to improve strikers and give them tips on how and where to finish….a GK. He’s gone through all of his qualifications like the rest of all the coaches, he just happened to be a good GK during his career. |
Pretty common in the NFL. They will look for ex-defensive players to coach the offence and vice versa. |  | | |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:55 - May 26 with 2411 views | chicoazul |
| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 15:19 - May 26 by BonneNIL |
Manure is a club rotten to the core and is failing utterly. I am not particularly confident that hiring their ex-players as coaches, or bringing in their kids is going to benefit us.
Grant played just a couple of games for Manure and was only ever a lower league stopper himself. It's a bit like the Gary Roberts thing, just what is this guy bringing to the table other than needing a job and McKenna giving him one? Who's looking at this? Paul Cook brought in a vastly underqualified coaching team and it hurt badly, if we aren't going to learn from that then we will run into the same problems.
No more jobs for the boys, and that's including our own. We should be going out and getting the best coaches, not hiring an ex Manure reserve keeper because he needs a job now. |
As long as he can carry out the important dual roles of baker and kit man he’ll be fine. |  |
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| Lee Grant joining as a coach on 17:17 - May 26 with 2019 views | FrimleyBlue |
A potentially interesting development this.
Yes I know non league is nothing compared to higher levels, but even so there's been a big increase in gks working with strikers compared to previous years. It should also help abit with set pieces, helping strikers to understand the restrictions a GK has during a corner and what the danger areas for the strikers are. |  |
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