| Toxic lefty-ism 18:13 - Nov 26 with 16455 views | NeedhamChris |
Really starting to find a number of people whose views I should align with (both on here and offline) to be quite alienating.
When it comes to people on here who are more openly left wing vs those that are right wing - the majority of the abuse, snobbery and entrenchment in views seems to come from this group. This doesn't seem to match up with the virtues that are supposedly at the centre of their politics. Whereas whilst I often disagree with some of what I read from the likes of GB and Lowhouse, their arguments are politely put forward and explained rationally and are a much more enjoyable conversation than those that I would agree with.
Why is this? I find it to be quite unedifying and the more I see of it - the more I feel like the left isn't for me. If I (as a Green party member) find it unappealing, where does that leave those minds we're supposed to be trying to change? |  |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:18 - Nov 26 with 6018 views | J2BLUE |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:42 - Nov 26 with 5937 views | BlueBadger |
I love a bit of centrist dad bothsidsing.
'Sure Nigel Farage is far right crook claiming to be patriotic whilst addressing rallies for neo-nazis who's wilful deception of gullible sections of the public have poisoned public debate for over a decade now but on the other side, someone on a football forum has called him a frog-faced old bigot'. [Post edited 26 Nov 2023 19:17]
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:48 - Nov 26 with 5871 views | gtsb1966 |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:42 - Nov 26 by BlueBadger |
I love a bit of centrist dad bothsidsing.
'Sure Nigel Farage is far right crook claiming to be patriotic whilst addressing rallies for neo-nazis who's wilful deception of gullible sections of the public have poisoned public debate for over a decade now but on the other side, someone on a football forum has called him a frog-faced old bigot'. [Post edited 26 Nov 2023 19:17]
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Had you down as 3-1 favourite to be the first to take the bait but not that bloody quick. |  | | |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:50 - Nov 26 with 5837 views | leitrimblue |
GB and Lowhouse are both lefty Labour voters |  | | |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:51 - Nov 26 with 5826 views | Darth_Koont |
Good effort. |  |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:52 - Nov 26 with 5802 views | NeedhamChris |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:51 - Nov 26 by Darth_Koont |
Good effort. |
It was (and is) a serious post, but your response speaks volumes. | |
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| It's quite telling that..... on 18:54 - Nov 26 with 5797 views | Bloots |
....most of the posters on here that get banned for being personally abusive to others are those of a lefty persuasion.
There's definitely a lack of tolerance from them towards anyone that doesn't agree 100% with them.
Loonies, innit. |  |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:56 - Nov 26 with 5748 views | NeedhamChris |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:42 - Nov 26 by BlueBadger |
I love a bit of centrist dad bothsidsing.
'Sure Nigel Farage is far right crook claiming to be patriotic whilst addressing rallies for neo-nazis who's wilful deception of gullible sections of the public have poisoned public debate for over a decade now but on the other side, someone on a football forum has called him a frog-faced old bigot'. [Post edited 26 Nov 2023 19:17]
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That's not really an attempt at engaging with the question is it. | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:00 - Nov 26 with 5718 views | BlueBadger |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:56 - Nov 26 by NeedhamChris |
That's not really an attempt at engaging with the question is it. |
Sure it is. It's a riposte subtly disguised as mockery. | |
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| It's quite telling that..... on 19:00 - Nov 26 with 5710 views | BlueBadger |
| It's quite telling that..... on 18:54 - Nov 26 by Bloots |
....most of the posters on here that get banned for being personally abusive to others are those of a lefty persuasion.
There's definitely a lack of tolerance from them towards anyone that doesn't agree 100% with them.
Loonies, innit. |
'Loonies'?
Be kind. | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:04 - Nov 26 with 5669 views | MillsyVOR |
Amen  |  | | |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:05 - Nov 26 with 5648 views | Darth_Koont |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:52 - Nov 26 by NeedhamChris |
It was (and is) a serious post, but your response speaks volumes. |
Thanks for the strangely toxic post and response. | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:09 - Nov 26 with 5599 views | J2BLUE |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:48 - Nov 26 by gtsb1966 |
Had you down as 3-1 favourite to be the first to take the bait but not that bloody quick. |
When I saw the thread had a downvote I would have gone all in on it being Herbivore. | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:12 - Nov 26 with 5561 views | NeedhamChris |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:05 - Nov 26 by Darth_Koont |
Thanks for the strangely toxic post and response. |
How is the post toxic? Other than it being a view you disagree with. | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:17 - Nov 26 with 5502 views | Darth_Koont |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:12 - Nov 26 by NeedhamChris |
How is the post toxic? Other than it being a view you disagree with. |
Because you called the views of some who disagree with right-wingers like GB and lowhouse toxic. And seem to totally ignore the accusations and bile that come the other way.
But this is great stuff. It’s what passes for UK politics and debate in a nutshell. | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:19 - Nov 26 with 5440 views | noggin |
Up arrows... Chris Needs'um. |  |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:20 - Nov 26 with 5434 views | BlueBadger |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:19 - Nov 26 by noggin |
Up arrows... Chris Needs'um. |
I'll give you evens Phils ends up pulling the thread and 'aheming' about it. [Post edited 26 Nov 2023 19:20]
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| It's quite telling that..... on 19:21 - Nov 26 with 5414 views | Darth_Koont |
| It's quite telling that..... on 18:54 - Nov 26 by Bloots |
....most of the posters on here that get banned for being personally abusive to others are those of a lefty persuasion.
There's definitely a lack of tolerance from them towards anyone that doesn't agree 100% with them.
Loonies, innit. |
The shy right are right shyte. 😂 | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:21 - Nov 26 with 5403 views | lowhouseblue |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 18:50 - Nov 26 by leitrimblue |
GB and Lowhouse are both lefty Labour voters |
solidly of the wilsonite, callaghanite, kinnockite, smithite, blairite, brownite, milibandite, and starmerite left me. and i have a card to prove it. |  |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:22 - Nov 26 with 5397 views | J2BLUE |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:19 - Nov 26 by noggin |
Up arrows... Chris Needs'um. |
He was on +4 but it looks like the alt accounts of the whats app group have been mobilised. | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:22 - Nov 26 with 5376 views | NeedhamChris |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:17 - Nov 26 by Darth_Koont |
Because you called the views of some who disagree with right-wingers like GB and lowhouse toxic. And seem to totally ignore the accusations and bile that come the other way.
But this is great stuff. It’s what passes for UK politics and debate in a nutshell. |
That's not what I said at all. My views are left leaning also, I've not referred to any views at toxic whatsoever. I often agree with the views, but the approach is toxic.
The toxicity I'm referring to is the manner of the debate, the name-calling or mockery instead of any form of engaging in opposing viewpoints.
For all the down-votes, there's not yet a single reasonable response to what is a perfectly valid question. | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:24 - Nov 26 with 5315 views | noggin |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:22 - Nov 26 by NeedhamChris |
That's not what I said at all. My views are left leaning also, I've not referred to any views at toxic whatsoever. I often agree with the views, but the approach is toxic.
The toxicity I'm referring to is the manner of the debate, the name-calling or mockery instead of any form of engaging in opposing viewpoints.
For all the down-votes, there's not yet a single reasonable response to what is a perfectly valid question. |
Remember when we tried to reason with the leave voters? | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:26 - Nov 26 with 5272 views | Darth_Koont |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:22 - Nov 26 by NeedhamChris |
That's not what I said at all. My views are left leaning also, I've not referred to any views at toxic whatsoever. I often agree with the views, but the approach is toxic.
The toxicity I'm referring to is the manner of the debate, the name-calling or mockery instead of any form of engaging in opposing viewpoints.
For all the down-votes, there's not yet a single reasonable response to what is a perfectly valid question. |
You have your impression. I have years of the left being blamed for anything and everything. And the worst of the propagandists are the two people you happened to back.
Forgive me if I find that ridiculous. | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:27 - Nov 26 with 5260 views | NeedhamChris |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:24 - Nov 26 by noggin |
Remember when we tried to reason with the leave voters? |
I'd disagree with your use of 'reason' for the way a lot of the debate was handled. I'd suggest we spent longer telling them rather than reasoning - and there is a difference. The fact we still see posts about how more educated Remainers are than Brexiteers doesn't exactly help.
That's a completely different issue though - normal left/right splits didn't apply here. | |
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| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:28 - Nov 26 with 5209 views | lowhouseblue |
| Toxic lefty-ism on 19:26 - Nov 26 by Darth_Koont |
You have your impression. I have years of the left being blamed for anything and everything. And the worst of the propagandists are the two people you happened to back.
Forgive me if I find that ridiculous. |
you left out the word 'far'. but i'd settle for 'unelectable' if that's easier. | |
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