| M. Bonne putting some goals away in pre-season… 22:04 - Jul 20 with 4425 views | SitfcB |
…I still think we’ll see him back here, probably near the end of the window.
Unfinished business.
Needs to have the first half of the season he had last season all season! |  |
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| M. Bonne putting some goals away in pre-season… on 14:04 - Jul 21 with 403 views | Steve_M |
| M. Bonne putting some goals away in pre-season… on 13:48 - Jul 21 by jayessess |
Will Keane's previous most prolific season yielded 10 goals in 32 appearances.
Ross Stewart's best in a serious league was 7 goals in 21 appearances in the SPL.
You go down the rest of the Top 10:
Alife May's best previous season 9 in 44 in League 2
Cole Stockton 13 in 40 in League 2
Scott Twine 13 in 44 across League 2 and League 1
Michael Smith 13 in 40
Ryan Hardie 8 in 16 in the Scottish Championship
Only the veterans on there - Sam Vokes, Matty Taylor and Lee Gregory - had ever previously had a season as prolific as Freddie Ladapo's best (2018-19).
Think people need to re-calibrate their expectations around what "guarantees goals" in League One. [Post edited 21 Jul 2022 13:49]
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"Think people need to re-calibrate their expectations around what "guarantees goals" in League One."
Not hindsight then? |  |
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| M. Bonne putting some goals away in pre-season… on 14:10 - Jul 21 with 379 views | STYG |
| M. Bonne putting some goals away in pre-season… on 14:04 - Jul 21 by Steve_M |
"Think people need to re-calibrate their expectations around what "guarantees goals" in League One."
Not hindsight then? |
It just goes to show though.
Anyone suggesting May, Stockton, Stewart etc would tear it up last season would have had far less justification for doing so than anyone suggesting that Ladapo or even Jackson would do this season.
Plenty suggesting we have to get another in, can't rely on Ladapo to get 20 goals etc but he's got a far better chance of getting 20-25 goals this season (on paper) than May or Stockton would have had this time last year and he's also playing for a team that should score a hell of a lot more goals than Cheltenham or Morecambe.
Jackson's best League 2 season eclipses May and Stockton.
Ultimately, anyone at League One level who is proven for more than a season ends up a division at least higher.
When you think about it, how many League One players can anyone name that have done it (15-20 goals) at this level for 2-3 seasons in their careers. Matt Taylor? Will Grigg? Clarke-Harris has had two good seasons here?
After that the list is pretty slim because the players that score at this level likely end up in the Championship if they aren't one season wonders.
Plenty of strikers in the Championship that have scored goals for fun there but don't a level higher. Gayle, Mitrovic, Gray, Grabban, Pukki, Solanke .... but at League One it doesn't happen as much that there are players down here that will guarantee goals. [Post edited 21 Jul 2022 14:16]
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| M. Bonne putting some goals away in pre-season… on 14:22 - Jul 21 with 341 views | jayessess |
| M. Bonne putting some goals away in pre-season… on 14:10 - Jul 21 by STYG |
It just goes to show though.
Anyone suggesting May, Stockton, Stewart etc would tear it up last season would have had far less justification for doing so than anyone suggesting that Ladapo or even Jackson would do this season.
Plenty suggesting we have to get another in, can't rely on Ladapo to get 20 goals etc but he's got a far better chance of getting 20-25 goals this season (on paper) than May or Stockton would have had this time last year and he's also playing for a team that should score a hell of a lot more goals than Cheltenham or Morecambe.
Jackson's best League 2 season eclipses May and Stockton.
Ultimately, anyone at League One level who is proven for more than a season ends up a division at least higher.
When you think about it, how many League One players can anyone name that have done it (15-20 goals) at this level for 2-3 seasons in their careers. Matt Taylor? Will Grigg? Clarke-Harris has had two good seasons here?
After that the list is pretty slim because the players that score at this level likely end up in the Championship if they aren't one season wonders.
Plenty of strikers in the Championship that have scored goals for fun there but don't a level higher. Gayle, Mitrovic, Gray, Grabban, Pukki, Solanke .... but at League One it doesn't happen as much that there are players down here that will guarantee goals. [Post edited 21 Jul 2022 14:16]
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15+ Seasons
Clarke-Harris 1
Matty Taylor 3
Will Grigg 4
Taylor had one early one then went to the Championship and failed, then came back and had 2 more.
Grigg had 1 with Walsall, 1 with MK Dons, 2 with Wigan but no Championship club ever fancied buying him, needed a promotion to get a chance to fail at the higher level.
Joe Pigott has 2, which presumably puts him pretty far up this list. John Marquis is the only other player currently in the division with more than 1 (twice) that I can see. [Post edited 21 Jul 2022 14:30]
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| M. Bonne putting some goals away in pre-season… on 14:28 - Jul 21 with 327 views | STYG |
| M. Bonne putting some goals away in pre-season… on 14:22 - Jul 21 by jayessess |
15+ Seasons
Clarke-Harris 1
Matty Taylor 3
Will Grigg 4
Taylor had one early one then went to the Championship and failed, then came back and had 2 more.
Grigg had 1 with Walsall, 1 with MK Dons, 2 with Wigan but no Championship club ever fancied buying him, needed a promotion to get a chance to fail at the higher level.
Joe Pigott has 2, which presumably puts him pretty far up this list. John Marquis is the only other player currently in the division with more than 1 (twice) that I can see. [Post edited 21 Jul 2022 14:30]
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Thanks.
That's the key here. Piggott has a better pedigree in League One that Stockton or May, who plenty of people have suggested we look at, ignoring the fact that neither really fits the McKenna way. I myself wouldn't have minded Stockton pre-January window, but then McKenna arrived and that wasn't one for me.
Given it's League One and any proven quality and consistency won't be here, Ladapo is as good a pick up from the division as you'll get. Someone who always looks good for 12-15 goals but has the potential, in the right side, to break 20. | | | |
| M. Bonne putting some goals away in pre-season… on 14:40 - Jul 21 with 301 views | jayessess |
| M. Bonne putting some goals away in pre-season… on 14:28 - Jul 21 by STYG |
Thanks.
That's the key here. Piggott has a better pedigree in League One that Stockton or May, who plenty of people have suggested we look at, ignoring the fact that neither really fits the McKenna way. I myself wouldn't have minded Stockton pre-January window, but then McKenna arrived and that wasn't one for me.
Given it's League One and any proven quality and consistency won't be here, Ladapo is as good a pick up from the division as you'll get. Someone who always looks good for 12-15 goals but has the potential, in the right side, to break 20. |
I think so. Bookies have Ladapo between 4th-favourite and 9th-favourite to be League One top goalscorer (14-1 to 20-1). Big favourite is Clarke-Harris, with Gregory, Smith and Taylor a notch down from him, then a group of strikers including Ladapo, Pigott (!), Stockton, Vokes and Marriott.
Which is probably about right. For someone significantly more proven you'd probably need to pinch Clarke-Harris, pick up a veteran on their way down (Charlie Austin?) or someone who hadn't quite cut it from the division above (Yates?). Those options would all be expensive, risky or impossible, which is presumably why we're interested in Hirst, who is a bit proven in this division but also has higher potential. [Post edited 21 Jul 2022 14:51]
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