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Pigeon size bird with black head, pink breast, black markings on wings/tail 11:37 - Mar 7 with 3779 viewsRyorry

At my bird bath this a.m chipping thru the ice. Very striking, never seen before, large size distinguishes it from anything else that might otherwise fit the description. Similar to, but not a jay due the black head & more rounded shape.

Any birders able to identify it pls? Didn't have my binocs out long enough to get the details of the wing & tail feahers.

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Pigeon size bird with black head, pink breast, black markings on wings/tail on 23:50 - Mar 7 with 1064 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Pigeon size bird with black head, pink breast, black markings on wings/tail on 19:14 - Mar 7 by Ryorry

I've just measured the diameter of the birdbath (should have thought of doing earlier of course) which is 37cm or 14.5 inches; also googled pigeon & dove sizes ("Pigeons and doves exhibit considerable variation in size, ranging in length from 15 to 75 centimetres (5.9 to 29.5 in) - and I'd say that actually, a 24cm bird would be pretty spot on in relation to the size of the bath - tho it did look heavier to me than 88g, but that's subjective of course.

Bearing in mind my immediate reaction at the sighting being "unusual dove" - I do now think it's most likely a Rosey Starling ... unless it's a giant female bullfinch! Also the absence of any other bird that's anything remotely like it (unless interbreeding is possible? Maybe in captivity as you say).

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I'e just had a fiver on "giant female bullfinch". Don't let me down now Ryorry.

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Pigeon size bird with black head, pink breast, black markings on wings/tail on 13:11 - Mar 10 with 946 viewsRyorry

Update - just had couple of proper (wood) pigeons visiting, which immediately confirmed that I was way out with my original sizing - anything pigeon-sized would have filled/dominated the whole diameter of the birdbath, and what I saw was only approx half that.

Not seen it again, sadly. Pretty sure now it was a Rosy Starling just passing through.

Btw BlueBoots - good shout with the rare pink hooded crow, plumage not dissimilar - but that would have been even more way too large. Have seen a few 'ordinary' hooded crows in this area over the years.

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Pigeon size bird with black head, pink breast, black markings on wings/tail on 17:36 - Mar 10 with 860 viewsCrawfordsboot

Pigeon size bird with black head, pink breast, black markings on wings/tail on 11:47 - Mar 7 by You_Bloo_Right

Not a bullfinch is it?

https://www.bto.org/our-science/projects/gbw/gardens-wildlife/garden-birds/a-z-g


No he said pigeon size not sparrow size
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Pigeon size bird with black head, pink breast, black markings on wings/tail on 17:40 - Mar 10 with 858 viewsCrawfordsboot

Pigeon size bird with black head, pink breast, black markings on wings/tail on 14:45 - Mar 7 by WeWereZombies

I don't think it is any of the birds mentioned so far, when I first moved into my house on Skye I had a similar bird in the garden and I never photographed it on the assumption that it would be around all the time. Never seen it since...

At the moment I am in Buenos Aires, a long way from my Collins guide to European birds but I will give my memory a jog when I get back (weather permitting) in a couple of days time.


Skye - now there’s a clue. There wasn’t any amber nectar involved was there 🤔
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