| Channel 4 news tonight - 7.45 onwards, harrowing insight to Gaza 19:56 - Nov 14 with 880 views | unstableblue |
I really recommend you watch
A film from a local Palestinian
It starts with how difficult daily life is without electricity and water, borrowing a generator to try and pump some water to wash, trying to get food and fresh water
But good humoured and stoic, just carrying on, teaming and helping
Then an air strike
Absolute carnage, inhumane
No water to tackle fires
Building collapsed
A bady dead pulled from the rubble, multiple casualties
Broken and distraught people, but trying to dig through the rubble
Hamas atrocities were just as horrendous
But this has to stop
There is no plan for when the Israelis reach some objective
If you’d been in that airstrike in Gaza you’d rage against Israel for the rest of your life
World needs to sort itself out
It’s 2023 [Post edited 14 Nov 2023 20:05]
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| Channel 4 news tonight - 7.45 onwards, harrowing insight to Gaza on 20:06 - Nov 14 with 830 views | Swansea_Blue |
The interview with the logistics guy with Médecins Sans Frontières is well worth listening to too. I posted a link earlier and will re-link below. It's probably worth winding back to the start of the Gaza coverage actually, as they included interviews from the hospital site where the current military action is focussed.
Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group by Swansea_Blue 14 Nov 2023 18:54MSF have publicly called for a cease fire (which aligns with Corbyn's view incidentally). This is very complex.
There was a depressing interview with one of the MSF staff on R4 earlier. He sounded at the end of his tether. It's at about 20:10 on playback and towards the end you can really hear his desperation coming through. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001sd5t
(In answer to the OP, yes he should condemn them. Although I am reminded of John Major's approach to the IRA where he embarked on secret talks to try and win them over, as he knew there wasn't a military/forceful way to end The Troubles. That could well be the case here. If talking is the only route towards peace the people most likely to make progress are ones who haven't been openly condemning Hamas (heaven help us if Corbyn is that option though). However, I might be wide of the mark here, as it looks like Hamas would rather annihilate Israel rather than talk).
Edit - the hyperlink doesn't come through when you link a previous post, so here it is again - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001sd5t. 20:10 onwards for the MSF interview. Worth listening to for his emotion.
Edit 2 - and yes, he talks about the fuel running out tomorrow. So that not only means for the essentials on the ground for the people, it also means no fuel for UN humanitarian efforts - no fuel, no trucks, no relief. Also, comms will run out of fuel/energy on Thursday, so a complete blackout from then. [Post edited 14 Nov 2023 20:11]
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| Channel 4 news tonight - 7.45 onwards, harrowing insight to Gaza on 20:57 - Nov 14 with 771 views | DJR |
On the longer Noggin thread, I linked an article about what a "humanitarian pause" means to civilians in Gaza.
The answer is nothing. [Post edited 14 Nov 2023 20:59]
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| Channel 4 news tonight - 7.45 onwards, harrowing insight to Gaza on 21:02 - Nov 14 with 754 views | DJR |
| Channel 4 news tonight - 7.45 onwards, harrowing insight to Gaza on 20:06 - Nov 14 by Swansea_Blue |
The interview with the logistics guy with Médecins Sans Frontières is well worth listening to too. I posted a link earlier and will re-link below. It's probably worth winding back to the start of the Gaza coverage actually, as they included interviews from the hospital site where the current military action is focussed.
Corbyn refuses to call Hamas a terror group by Swansea_Blue 14 Nov 2023 18:54MSF have publicly called for a cease fire (which aligns with Corbyn's view incidentally). This is very complex.
There was a depressing interview with one of the MSF staff on R4 earlier. He sounded at the end of his tether. It's at about 20:10 on playback and towards the end you can really hear his desperation coming through. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001sd5t
(In answer to the OP, yes he should condemn them. Although I am reminded of John Major's approach to the IRA where he embarked on secret talks to try and win them over, as he knew there wasn't a military/forceful way to end The Troubles. That could well be the case here. If talking is the only route towards peace the people most likely to make progress are ones who haven't been openly condemning Hamas (heaven help us if Corbyn is that option though). However, I might be wide of the mark here, as it looks like Hamas would rather annihilate Israel rather than talk).
Edit - the hyperlink doesn't come through when you link a previous post, so here it is again - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001sd5t. 20:10 onwards for the MSF interview. Worth listening to for his emotion.
Edit 2 - and yes, he talks about the fuel running out tomorrow. So that not only means for the essentials on the ground for the people, it also means no fuel for UN humanitarian efforts - no fuel, no trucks, no relief. Also, comms will run out of fuel/energy on Thursday, so a complete blackout from then. [Post edited 14 Nov 2023 20:11]
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I can't access the link but I think I heard it on the World Service, whose coverage of the humanitarian consequences in Gaza is excellent. Newsday, Newshour and Outside Source are all worth listening to, now that the conflict in this country has been rather shunted down the news agenda. [Post edited 14 Nov 2023 21:05]
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