| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslim countries to give up land... 08:13 - Jun 11 with 831 views | pointofblue |
for Palestine state.
With no respect or understanding of history, or even simple respect of land people call home, the world really has no chance. I wonder whether this belief will also influence the US's actions over Ukraine. After all, Russia have so much more land.
It would be funny if it wasn't so frightening - both for the Palestinian people and the world as a whole.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd628z2nwyvo
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| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 08:42 - Jun 11 with 742 views | Guthrum |
Tho, to be fair, the surrounding Arab states themselves (Jordan and Egypt) historically grabbed what remained of the Palestinian state between 1949 and 1968, plus all of them treating Palestinian refugees as both an inconvenience and a political tool.
That's not to say I agree with the US position, which is typically over-simplistic and naive, the product of people who only have half-baked ideas and lack in-depth knowlege (let alone compassion). |  |
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| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 08:55 - Jun 11 with 686 views | pointofblue |
| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 08:42 - Jun 11 by Guthrum |
Tho, to be fair, the surrounding Arab states themselves (Jordan and Egypt) historically grabbed what remained of the Palestinian state between 1949 and 1968, plus all of them treating Palestinian refugees as both an inconvenience and a political tool.
That's not to say I agree with the US position, which is typically over-simplistic and naive, the product of people who only have half-baked ideas and lack in-depth knowlege (let alone compassion). |
If Huckabee had specifically referred to the land grab by Jordan and Egypt he may have had more of a point - albeit he cannot then judge Israel separately.
I wish I could say this was down to naivety, but I personally believe it's far more sinister. | |
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| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 09:08 - Jun 11 with 658 views | Guthrum |
| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 08:55 - Jun 11 by pointofblue |
If Huckabee had specifically referred to the land grab by Jordan and Egypt he may have had more of a point - albeit he cannot then judge Israel separately.
I wish I could say this was down to naivety, but I personally believe it's far more sinister. |
He probably isn't even conscious of that historical context.
When I say naive, that is in relation to understanding the complexities of the situation in the Middle East, having simplistic ideas of the possible solutions, expecting bizarre ideas to be practicable. They aren't bothered about a mismatch between Trump's ideas and reality, just how it plays out in the media with their supporter base. It's a ratings competition, not a genuine attempt to solve elaborate geopolitical problems which have been baffling experts for decades. | |
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| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 09:53 - Jun 11 with 600 views | Steve_M |
Does this Huckabee have a hat too? |  |
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| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 09:56 - Jun 11 with 592 views | StokieBlue |
In 2008, Huckabee said that there is "really no such thing as a Palestinian".
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| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 10:10 - Jun 11 with 549 views | Blueschev |
| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 09:08 - Jun 11 by Guthrum |
He probably isn't even conscious of that historical context.
When I say naive, that is in relation to understanding the complexities of the situation in the Middle East, having simplistic ideas of the possible solutions, expecting bizarre ideas to be practicable. They aren't bothered about a mismatch between Trump's ideas and reality, just how it plays out in the media with their supporter base. It's a ratings competition, not a genuine attempt to solve elaborate geopolitical problems which have been baffling experts for decades. |
He also has to factor in the millions of Trump supporters desperate to kick off the end times, and Jesus won't be making a return with those pesky Palestinians still hanging around. God needs all of the Jews to return to the land of Israel before he massacres two thirds of them for not accepting Jesus as their messiah. |  | | |
| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 10:15 - Jun 11 with 540 views | Guthrum |
| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 10:10 - Jun 11 by Blueschev |
He also has to factor in the millions of Trump supporters desperate to kick off the end times, and Jesus won't be making a return with those pesky Palestinians still hanging around. God needs all of the Jews to return to the land of Israel before he massacres two thirds of them for not accepting Jesus as their messiah. |
Indeed. Their view of biblical eschatology is extremely simplistic, too. If not downright wrong. | |
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| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 10:20 - Jun 11 with 525 views | Guthrum |
| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 09:53 - Jun 11 by Steve_M |
Does this Huckabee have a hat too? |
Yes. In a remarkably similar style, too. | |
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| US Ambassador to Israel calls for Muslin countries to give up land... on 10:28 - Jun 11 with 472 views | DJR |
There was an interesting opinion piece in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz about a month ago which drew parallels between Russian desire for its historic lands in Ukraine and the desire of some Israeli Jews to regain what they would regard as their biblical lands in the occupied territories.
It suggested that this type of thinking had been heavily influenced by a large influx of Russian Jews early in the last century.
It included this passage.
"In February 2022, after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, IDF Maj. Gen. (res.) Gershon Hacohen took part in a panel discussion about the event on Israel's Kan Television. In contrast to the line then dominant in the media, Hacohen voiced a forcefully pro-Russian stance. Kyiv, he pointed out, was the cradle of Russian civilization, adding that international borders were not sacred." [Post edited 11 Jun 10:29]
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