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So far this season, we have not lost when scoring first, but likewise have not won if we concede first.
There are a few draws in both instances, however in our last Championship promotion season, can remember we regularly let the first goal in at home and had a great knack for still winning.
Think there was a run at the beginning of that season, where we conceded in the first 10 minutes quite frequently.
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First Goal Importance on 10:35 - Oct 31 with 795 views
Town in 23/24 had a mindset of like " oh they scored........... anyway"
You visually however see heads drop so far this season, looking back at that charlton game, although we were 3-0 down the lack of anyone wanting to take a corner... that would never have happend in 23/24
First Goal Importance on 10:35 - Oct 31 by FrimleyBlue
Town in 23/24 had a mindset of like " oh they scored........... anyway"
You visually however see heads drop so far this season, looking back at that charlton game, although we were 3-0 down the lack of anyone wanting to take a corner... that would never have happend in 23/24
Town have sure lost the winning mentality. I don't know if that's partly down to a year of getting beaten most weeks in the PL, but we haven't looked like winning on the road at all this season. You start (hopefully) with winning away once & then hopefully things will improve, but Town do not look a strong unit once things go against us. Could be down to lack of team leadership on the pitch, but these things aren't easy to fix.
First Goal Importance on 10:40 - Oct 31 by Radlett_blue
Town have sure lost the winning mentality. I don't know if that's partly down to a year of getting beaten most weeks in the PL, but we haven't looked like winning on the road at all this season. You start (hopefully) with winning away once & then hopefully things will improve, but Town do not look a strong unit once things go against us. Could be down to lack of team leadership on the pitch, but these things aren't easy to fix.
The stats are showing that we are having nearly as many shots as Coventry, but they are converting their chances at a rate that is twice as good as ours. We don't have to be tearing it up on the kind of streak that Coventry are having, but even just turning two of our draws into wins puts us sixth /with/ a game in hand still. Boro and Charlton are the obvious games where failure to score when we were on top cost us. Against WBA it very nearly did too.
Possession percentages in the first half of games are good (against WBA I think the first half hour was way more dominant than the rest of the game). We're just not being nearly clinical enough with our finishing, in my view.
At the back, I think we need to stick with O'Shea and Kipre. Barring the own goal, which was a freak incident, I think Kipre has been much more solid and reliable at the back than Greaves. I get that Greaves offers more going forward, but I don't think we're wanting in terms of getting the ball up to the final third, so I think we just need that solidity. That will hopefully help prevent a Charlton repeat.
One of the problems of late (and I don't have the stats on this) appears to be that we commit men, /don't/ get the goal, lose possession and then get hit on the break. Knife through butter, we concede.
If we improve our finishing, and set pieces (but the latter is a smaller issue statistically), I think we improve results a great deal.
Having spent so much in those forward positions, it is somewhat baffling that our embarrassment of riches can't stick it in the net. I can't diagnose exactly what is wrong. Were Akpom and SS one season wonders? Were they more suited to their previous team's styles? Hirst seems to be in a poor run of form, and frankly is not offering any more than a Kieffer Moore. McAteer I just find puzzling. Egeli is still young and it's reasonable to grant him time to adjust, but he's clearly a nugget of a talent.
I really do think it's finishing. I think that is our main illness right now. One can see it in the xG versus actual goals stats, or just in the chance conversion stats. I see it as glaring. Do we have a top six striker? I don't believe we currently do. If that is the case, it is less surprising we don't find ourselves embedded well inside the top 6.
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First Goal Importance on 13:26 - Oct 31 with 542 views
First Goal Importance on 10:57 - Oct 31 by HighgateBlue
The stats are showing that we are having nearly as many shots as Coventry, but they are converting their chances at a rate that is twice as good as ours. We don't have to be tearing it up on the kind of streak that Coventry are having, but even just turning two of our draws into wins puts us sixth /with/ a game in hand still. Boro and Charlton are the obvious games where failure to score when we were on top cost us. Against WBA it very nearly did too.
Possession percentages in the first half of games are good (against WBA I think the first half hour was way more dominant than the rest of the game). We're just not being nearly clinical enough with our finishing, in my view.
At the back, I think we need to stick with O'Shea and Kipre. Barring the own goal, which was a freak incident, I think Kipre has been much more solid and reliable at the back than Greaves. I get that Greaves offers more going forward, but I don't think we're wanting in terms of getting the ball up to the final third, so I think we just need that solidity. That will hopefully help prevent a Charlton repeat.
One of the problems of late (and I don't have the stats on this) appears to be that we commit men, /don't/ get the goal, lose possession and then get hit on the break. Knife through butter, we concede.
If we improve our finishing, and set pieces (but the latter is a smaller issue statistically), I think we improve results a great deal.
Having spent so much in those forward positions, it is somewhat baffling that our embarrassment of riches can't stick it in the net. I can't diagnose exactly what is wrong. Were Akpom and SS one season wonders? Were they more suited to their previous team's styles? Hirst seems to be in a poor run of form, and frankly is not offering any more than a Kieffer Moore. McAteer I just find puzzling. Egeli is still young and it's reasonable to grant him time to adjust, but he's clearly a nugget of a talent.
I really do think it's finishing. I think that is our main illness right now. One can see it in the xG versus actual goals stats, or just in the chance conversion stats. I see it as glaring. Do we have a top six striker? I don't believe we currently do. If that is the case, it is less surprising we don't find ourselves embedded well inside the top 6.
A large part of our problem is that we are mainly shooting from range (not enough players in the box for crosses, or too many defenders) and an awful lot of those are off target, so not even testing the 'keeper.
It would be interesting to know what sort of goals Szmodics and Akpom were scoring in their best seasons. Were they putting the ball away close in, or shots from further out? Because if the former, we aren't getting a lot of joy in that department.
I don't mind us taking pot-shots from the edge of the area, as, even if blocked or saved, it can give opportunities for following up (as we have seen). But we need to be more accurate. Otherwise it just results in losing possession to a goal kick.
First Goal Importance on 13:26 - Oct 31 by Guthrum
A large part of our problem is that we are mainly shooting from range (not enough players in the box for crosses, or too many defenders) and an awful lot of those are off target, so not even testing the 'keeper.
It would be interesting to know what sort of goals Szmodics and Akpom were scoring in their best seasons. Were they putting the ball away close in, or shots from further out? Because if the former, we aren't getting a lot of joy in that department.
I don't mind us taking pot-shots from the edge of the area, as, even if blocked or saved, it can give opportunities for following up (as we have seen). But we need to be more accurate. Otherwise it just results in losing possession to a goal kick.
Mentioned the types of goals scored by Akpom.. Most were inside the box. Same with Sammy
First Goal Importance on 13:29 - Oct 31 by FrimleyBlue
Mentioned the types of goals scored by Akpom.. Most were inside the box. Same with Sammy
Thanks, knew somebody would have access to that kind of info.
Akpom definitely a close-in man. Might benefit from better corners, but needs to get well forward.
Szmodics appears to specialise in bursting through higher defensive lines (similar to Hirst). We're not seeing a lot of that by our opponents. Understandable, given the firepower at our disposal. But also a function of our careful, rather than speedy, build up play, which keeps possession, but allows defenders to organise.
Speed on the break was something we were good at a couple of years ago, but haven't yet got working this season. Maybe because teams are more aware of how dangerous we can be in that area. Plus players not being so familiar with each other's positioning and runs.
First Goal Importance on 10:40 - Oct 31 by Radlett_blue
Town have sure lost the winning mentality. I don't know if that's partly down to a year of getting beaten most weeks in the PL, but we haven't looked like winning on the road at all this season. You start (hopefully) with winning away once & then hopefully things will improve, but Town do not look a strong unit once things go against us. Could be down to lack of team leadership on the pitch, but these things aren't easy to fix.
Perhaps it needs a hard-fought win to learn that it is possible. After all, in the promotion seasons, the more our reputation for turning situations around grew, the better we became at it.
The expectation of dominating followed by it not turning out like that is a very morale-sapping thing. Probably more so even than being the constant underdog.
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