| Sudan 08:17 - Nov 3 with 592 views | DJR |
Very good article on Sudan setting out some of the horrors going on there, and pointing the finger at the West for going along with it.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/03/blood-spilled-sudan-el-fas
"Sudan’s war is described as forgotten, but in reality it is tolerated and relegated. Because to reckon with the horror in Sudan is to look into the abyss of regional and global politics. It is to see the growing imperialist role of some Gulf powers in Africa and beyond – and to acknowledge the fact that no meaningful pressure is applied to these powers, including the UAE, to cease and desist from supporting a genocidal militia because the UK, US and others are close allies with these states. As the RSF encircled El Fasher last year, sources told the Guardian that UK government officials were working to suppress criticism of the UAE among African diplomats. Last week it was revealed that British military equipment used by the RSF was found on the battlefields in Sudan.
In Sudan, there are two military parties that cannot decisively defeat each other. Globally, foreign policy that was once the result of a mixture of diplomatic pragmatism and parties amenable to moral pressure has now been reduced to the naked practice of powerful states pursuing business and political interests, however they see fit. The scale and clarity – crimes visible from space – of what is occurring in El Fasher and the wider Darfur region leaves no room for pretences of ignorance. It is a repeat of what we have seen before, and a new chapter in a war that has gone on for long enough for all to know what is on the cards. Those who have leverage over the UAE, and therefore the RSF, but allow the violence to pass without urgent action or pressure have blood on their hands. The majority of El Fasher’s population is trapped in a killing field. Every minute counts." [Post edited 3 Nov 8:19]
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| Sudan on 08:13 - Nov 7 with 317 views | NedPlimpton |
Surprised at the lack of mention for the closure of USAID which has had a catastrophic impact in Sudan |  | | |
| Sudan on 08:15 - Nov 7 with 314 views | DJR |
| Sudan on 08:13 - Nov 7 by NedPlimpton |
Surprised at the lack of mention for the closure of USAID which has had a catastrophic impact in Sudan |
I've mentioned that before too. And it is having an effect way beyond Sudan.
And let's not forget the cuts to UK overseas aid, which amongst other things have meant that the UK won't be contributing to the Brazilian-inspired rainforest fund. [Post edited 7 Nov 8:33]
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| Sudan on 09:15 - Nov 7 with 247 views | CoachRob |
| Sudan on 08:15 - Nov 7 by DJR |
I've mentioned that before too. And it is having an effect way beyond Sudan.
And let's not forget the cuts to UK overseas aid, which amongst other things have meant that the UK won't be contributing to the Brazilian-inspired rainforest fund. [Post edited 7 Nov 8:33]
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All part of the accelerating poly crisis and Sudan is going to face the worst consequences of global warming. Uncompensable and unsurvivable thresholds under wet-bulb conditions (heat and humidity) will drive further hardship for these people. Tom Matthews was the lead author on that work based at Kings College(behind a paywall), but how long before the nonsense going on over in the US reaches these shores and the UK starts cutting back on climate science. This current brainless economic ideology will mean we will be unable to provide the early warning systems and adaptation technology these people rely on in the face of an increasingly unstable climate. |  | | |
| Sudan on 11:29 - Nov 7 with 151 views | Devereuxxx |
Can speak to this as I was part of a team who coordinated evacuations out of Khartoum when this first kicked off. I remember it vividly as it was a nightmare; constant obstacles, trying to coordinate logistical moves through street by street fighting, and I had to work about 18 hour days for a week before taking 2 days of leave to go to Barnsley away on the Tuesday. It was the Germans who came through first - we managed to get a load of people out on their flights. The UK flights didn't start until about 2 weeks later. The foreign office couldn't have been more useless.
Part of the horror of this conflict is that the vast majority of the atrocities won't ever be reported on, as they're taking place in Darfur with absolutely no international oversight. It's a closed box. The RSF are never going to be able to take to Khartoum and the SAF are never going to be able to remove the RSF from the south, so it's a total stalemate. Only recent military advancements have been since the RSF have got access to drones (thanks to the UAE) but it's not going to move the dial.
A terribly sad situation as the people who are really suffering are the citizens who have absolutely no recourse. |  | | |
| Sudan on 11:37 - Nov 7 with 138 views | mellowblue |
I have been following this fom a Telegraph/BBC angle so was good to read the Guardian's view as well. It is a horrible situation. Sudan really does have a sad history of warfare going back many, many decades. Only when they have ruthless leadership is it kept in check. At least the US and other interested parties have brokered a ceasefire now, but I feel this is more to take the eyes of the West off the situation there and business will continue quietly. The RSF hold much of Southern part of Sudan, (not to be confused with the breakaway South Sudan) and that is land ethnically high in non-Arabic non-Islamic Africans. So it is easy to surmise a continuation of the ethnic cleansing of black, Christian Africans away from prying eyes and away from the frontline and the El Fasher areas where current focus is. Militant islam is rife in many areas of that East to West belt of Africa where Christianity and and different shades of Islam have previously co-existed together. There is also the under-story of massive mineral wealth that major players are vying for. If you control the land you control the minerals and we are talking high quality deposits of gold, uranium, chromium, copper iron and rare earth minerals, so important in the world economy today. Hence partially the UAE'S involvement. |  | | |
| Sudan on 11:53 - Nov 7 with 116 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Sudan on 11:37 - Nov 7 by mellowblue |
I have been following this fom a Telegraph/BBC angle so was good to read the Guardian's view as well. It is a horrible situation. Sudan really does have a sad history of warfare going back many, many decades. Only when they have ruthless leadership is it kept in check. At least the US and other interested parties have brokered a ceasefire now, but I feel this is more to take the eyes of the West off the situation there and business will continue quietly. The RSF hold much of Southern part of Sudan, (not to be confused with the breakaway South Sudan) and that is land ethnically high in non-Arabic non-Islamic Africans. So it is easy to surmise a continuation of the ethnic cleansing of black, Christian Africans away from prying eyes and away from the frontline and the El Fasher areas where current focus is. Militant islam is rife in many areas of that East to West belt of Africa where Christianity and and different shades of Islam have previously co-existed together. There is also the under-story of massive mineral wealth that major players are vying for. If you control the land you control the minerals and we are talking high quality deposits of gold, uranium, chromium, copper iron and rare earth minerals, so important in the world economy today. Hence partially the UAE'S involvement. |
Unfortunately Africa is becoming a geopolitical playground not just from the Middle East, but China (using critical infrastructure as collateral), and Russia. Russia and aligned mercenaries have been involved in a number of coups (many formerly western aligned regimes). This instability is not only displacing people, but really harming western investment in the continent. It’s difficult to see how economic development can be achieved without security and politic stability. Whilst nobody wants western military intervention, or to be the world’s policemen, the isolationist policies of the current US regime are only going to further increase global instability as malign actors are emboldened. | | | |
| Sudan on 12:03 - Nov 7 with 105 views | Bobbychase |
| Sudan on 11:37 - Nov 7 by mellowblue |
I have been following this fom a Telegraph/BBC angle so was good to read the Guardian's view as well. It is a horrible situation. Sudan really does have a sad history of warfare going back many, many decades. Only when they have ruthless leadership is it kept in check. At least the US and other interested parties have brokered a ceasefire now, but I feel this is more to take the eyes of the West off the situation there and business will continue quietly. The RSF hold much of Southern part of Sudan, (not to be confused with the breakaway South Sudan) and that is land ethnically high in non-Arabic non-Islamic Africans. So it is easy to surmise a continuation of the ethnic cleansing of black, Christian Africans away from prying eyes and away from the frontline and the El Fasher areas where current focus is. Militant islam is rife in many areas of that East to West belt of Africa where Christianity and and different shades of Islam have previously co-existed together. There is also the under-story of massive mineral wealth that major players are vying for. If you control the land you control the minerals and we are talking high quality deposits of gold, uranium, chromium, copper iron and rare earth minerals, so important in the world economy today. Hence partially the UAE'S involvement. |
The slaughters carried out by the Janjaweed militia in previous conflicts barely made the news sadly. |  |
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| Sudan on 12:18 - Nov 7 with 89 views | mellowblue |
| Sudan on 11:53 - Nov 7 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Unfortunately Africa is becoming a geopolitical playground not just from the Middle East, but China (using critical infrastructure as collateral), and Russia. Russia and aligned mercenaries have been involved in a number of coups (many formerly western aligned regimes). This instability is not only displacing people, but really harming western investment in the continent. It’s difficult to see how economic development can be achieved without security and politic stability. Whilst nobody wants western military intervention, or to be the world’s policemen, the isolationist policies of the current US regime are only going to further increase global instability as malign actors are emboldened. |
Indeed you are right.
China is heavily invested in Sudan and must be looking nervously at their investments there.
They are also invested in South Sudan (oil rather than minerals). To be fair to the Americans, they have never been too concerned with Africa, presumably seeing it as an European sphere of influence going back to Empire days. Even when the Russians and Cubans were heavily influential there, the American were more focussed elsewhere. | | | |
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