| Very dramatic piece on Norwich on Look East tonight 19:10 - Nov 10 with 4363 views | bournemouthblue |
No other football in the region happened obviously
Their fans seem to be speaking like their club is about to go out of business next week and not in the very rectifiable situation it could be with a good managerial replacement
Surely we were in a far worse place in our relegation season and we got behind the team, crowds actually went up under Lambert
The Budgies have always been quick to panic and have a meltdown, the classic example being those fans lobbing season tickets at the dugouts etc |  |
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| Very dramatic piece on Norwich on Look East tonight on 23:07 - Nov 10 with 721 views | Churchman |
| Very dramatic piece on Norwich on Look East tonight on 21:10 - Nov 10 by ArnieM |
Don't you remember their demonstrations against Robert Chase? or fans running towards the dugout to have a go at at one of their managers (Gunn?).... I think just about every manager they've had in recent times, has ended up with drmonstrations or marching to their ground in protest ( with great local tv coverage naturally)..... they're very reactive after in the grand scale of things quite short term dentures in virtues.
Try 20 years of down turn like we had... and I still dont think we made anywhere near as much fuss as that lot do / are atm |
Oh Arnie, while I agree that a little deprivation (20 years) would do them good, I don’t think their fan base is in general much different to ours - bar the additional fingers, one family tree, terrible shirts and a suspicious resemblance to local farm animals.
They have their fair share of entitled muppets - and so do we. We also live in a world where there is no tolerance or patience any more. Big picture? Nobody is interested. Want it now now now or where do I place the blame?
A world where some think it’s ok to abuse people on social media and form conclusions with no evidence whatsoever beyond blind hate and a desire to cause a reaction. Just look at the response on here to last Tuesday’s ‘defeat’ (might as well have been reading the reaction).
I always thought it to be a London/SE thing. Even in the 70s London clubs fans would start on the players if they weren’t winning after ten mins. But it’s wider now.
Back to that lot, people waving flares and abusing the players families is very wrong but a minority to the silent majority - the latter were probably back in their hovels trying to make fire.
But back to your core point bar the one season in L1 they’ve had good times on the whole stretching back 30 or 40 years. Bigger clubs than them have gone through darker times, including the Sheffield clubs, Leeds, Sunderland, Derby and Crewe Alexandra, so they need for their souls a decade or two in L1, L2 or the Conference.
No doubt a new man will come in and they’ll recover if they have a good transfer window, but if they lose Sideshow Bob Sargent, they really will be in the brown stuff. |  | | |
| Very dramatic piece on Norwich on Look East tonight on 23:51 - Nov 10 with 671 views | ArnieM |
| Very dramatic piece on Norwich on Look East tonight on 23:07 - Nov 10 by Churchman |
Oh Arnie, while I agree that a little deprivation (20 years) would do them good, I don’t think their fan base is in general much different to ours - bar the additional fingers, one family tree, terrible shirts and a suspicious resemblance to local farm animals.
They have their fair share of entitled muppets - and so do we. We also live in a world where there is no tolerance or patience any more. Big picture? Nobody is interested. Want it now now now or where do I place the blame?
A world where some think it’s ok to abuse people on social media and form conclusions with no evidence whatsoever beyond blind hate and a desire to cause a reaction. Just look at the response on here to last Tuesday’s ‘defeat’ (might as well have been reading the reaction).
I always thought it to be a London/SE thing. Even in the 70s London clubs fans would start on the players if they weren’t winning after ten mins. But it’s wider now.
Back to that lot, people waving flares and abusing the players families is very wrong but a minority to the silent majority - the latter were probably back in their hovels trying to make fire.
But back to your core point bar the one season in L1 they’ve had good times on the whole stretching back 30 or 40 years. Bigger clubs than them have gone through darker times, including the Sheffield clubs, Leeds, Sunderland, Derby and Crewe Alexandra, so they need for their souls a decade or two in L1, L2 or the Conference.
No doubt a new man will come in and they’ll recover if they have a good transfer window, but if they lose Sideshow Bob Sargent, they really will be in the brown stuff. |
That's the thing though isn't it ( and quite scary really) theres a whole generation of their fans .....and ours, that have ONLY known them to be the stronger team in the region. Not sure its 30 yrs though ( perish the very thought).... but im a lot longer in the tooth and have seen that wheel turn through its revolutions and can remember like it was yesterday ( alzhiemers setting in maybe?) when they NEVER beat us, and we were undisputed top dogs. It wasnt whether we'd beat their scraggy arses, but more by how many we'd beat them by!
You're right of course , every club has its element of its fan base, it would rather it didn't. But do we have an area of our ground called " the snake pit" or anything like it? No, we dont. Do we ambush their fans with iron scaffold poles ( that was my last "experience" of visiting their sh it hole) when they visit PR, or rip the seats out at CR and throw them on the pitch, like they did at our ground 3 years on the trot?
I do honestly think they are as a fan base far more volatile than even the worst element of our lot.... I think theyre arrogant beyond belief ( given their lack of any meaningful football success), and they come across as totally entitled. Having 6 fingers, or a short family tree is the least of their problems,  ..... |  |
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| Very dramatic piece on Norwich on Look East tonight on 00:48 - Nov 11 with 651 views | bournemouthblue |
| Very dramatic piece on Norwich on Look East tonight on 23:51 - Nov 10 by ArnieM |
That's the thing though isn't it ( and quite scary really) theres a whole generation of their fans .....and ours, that have ONLY known them to be the stronger team in the region. Not sure its 30 yrs though ( perish the very thought).... but im a lot longer in the tooth and have seen that wheel turn through its revolutions and can remember like it was yesterday ( alzhiemers setting in maybe?) when they NEVER beat us, and we were undisputed top dogs. It wasnt whether we'd beat their scraggy arses, but more by how many we'd beat them by!
You're right of course , every club has its element of its fan base, it would rather it didn't. But do we have an area of our ground called " the snake pit" or anything like it? No, we dont. Do we ambush their fans with iron scaffold poles ( that was my last "experience" of visiting their sh it hole) when they visit PR, or rip the seats out at CR and throw them on the pitch, like they did at our ground 3 years on the trot?
I do honestly think they are as a fan base far more volatile than even the worst element of our lot.... I think theyre arrogant beyond belief ( given their lack of any meaningful football success), and they come across as totally entitled. Having 6 fingers, or a short family tree is the least of their problems, ..... |
They have always panicked far quicker than us historically, we're generally a pretty tolerent bunch
For me, they only really over took us when Lambert got them promoted, yes they went up under Worthington but that wasn't a particularly good side, Fabian Wilnis said as much and they were relegated under Worthington and could easily have been replaced with Royle's side if we'd had a bit more luck
The 16 years of 'dominance' they refer to is more a reflection of Evans death by a thousand cuts really | |
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| I filmed a bit to send on on 08:47 - Nov 11 with 530 views | Dyland |
"The club is BROKEN."
"It's a DISGRACE."
"I've been coming for twenty years and etc."
I couldn't help smiling. Schadenfreude but so what, this is part of football and its tribalism. Quite frankly it's jeffing hilarious. |  |
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| I think that's doing Manning a massive disservice on 08:57 - Nov 11 with 519 views | Dyland |
| Very dramatic piece on Norwich on Look East tonight on 19:30 - Nov 10 by BlueBoots |
Their start to the season is pretty much a carbon copy of us in 2018...appoint a promising young manager, back him in the transfer market, and then sack him after a third of the season has gone:
(Paul Hurst) 14 1 6 7 9
(Liam Manning) 15 2 3 10 9
Just need them to find their equivalent of Paul Lambert now - maybe the man himself fancies it  |
His position was probably untenable cos of the toxic atmosphere, and let's not pretend the same didn't happen at PR in the death throws of Mick's time. In the latter's case a change was long overdue but I'm not so sure tis true for Manning and Noj. These things need time.
There are definite similarities in the recruitment departments, though seems a bit surprising seeing the budgies have newish ownership, compared to us who had stagnated at best under MEG and let's face it the appointment of Hurst and breakup of the squad shot us in the foot. | |
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| Precisely this on 09:00 - Nov 11 with 517 views | Dyland |
| Very dramatic piece on Norwich on Look East tonight on 19:19 - Nov 10 by Churchman |
They are in no danger of their club falling to the bottom tier or worse. Nor are they going to suffer years of yawning incompetence, lies and asset sweating as we did from 2010 on.
If they are without a full set of floodlights, a receptionist, a cleaner for the ground, scouting network and a manager that knows the difference between a team and a teapot in nine years time, I’ll be sympathetic (maybe….probably not) but until then suck it up.
Other clubs have had to and if they want something to worry about, they should take a look at what Wednesday fans are going through. |
They'll be fine.
"Fine" in their case meaning mid table in the Champ, which contrary to the expectations of some of their confused fanbase, is about right. Arf. | |
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| Very dramatic piece on Norwich on Look East tonight on 11:41 - Nov 11 with 451 views | Churchman |
| Very dramatic piece on Norwich on Look East tonight on 23:51 - Nov 10 by ArnieM |
That's the thing though isn't it ( and quite scary really) theres a whole generation of their fans .....and ours, that have ONLY known them to be the stronger team in the region. Not sure its 30 yrs though ( perish the very thought).... but im a lot longer in the tooth and have seen that wheel turn through its revolutions and can remember like it was yesterday ( alzhiemers setting in maybe?) when they NEVER beat us, and we were undisputed top dogs. It wasnt whether we'd beat their scraggy arses, but more by how many we'd beat them by!
You're right of course , every club has its element of its fan base, it would rather it didn't. But do we have an area of our ground called " the snake pit" or anything like it? No, we dont. Do we ambush their fans with iron scaffold poles ( that was my last "experience" of visiting their sh it hole) when they visit PR, or rip the seats out at CR and throw them on the pitch, like they did at our ground 3 years on the trot?
I do honestly think they are as a fan base far more volatile than even the worst element of our lot.... I think theyre arrogant beyond belief ( given their lack of any meaningful football success), and they come across as totally entitled. Having 6 fingers, or a short family tree is the least of their problems, ..... |
No, probably not 30 years. In the 60s through to mid 80s we were stronger. Burley’s time we were too and it was then pretty much par until 2009. Then until two years ago so 14 years is more accurate.
As for violence my dad used to go there for booze and fight in the 50s (he regretted confessing that) and I saw bricks being chucked at them in the 80s. Not quite up there with tearing the seats out (was there for that) the snake pit and scaffold poles, mind.
My last visit was the 92 2-0 game, blow up sumo wrestlers n all. We sat in with their lot in the River End. We kept it down (until the last minute goal) so all was ok, but we were careful.
One act of kindness - a bloke let us park in his little factory car park near to the ground. Nice of him. My dad repaid it by wazzing all over the lock, handle and door after the game. ‘Why did you do that?’ said I. Hate the b’stards said he. ‘So why did you marry my mother?’ I asked (born in Yarmouth, family all Norfolk). ‘She was the best looking woman I’d ever seen’ he replied. Then added ‘but I’ve always detested her family and all Norfolk people’.
I gave up. I’m sure there was some logic there somewhere. | | | |
| Precisely this on 12:47 - Nov 11 with 420 views | gsoly |
| Precisely this on 09:00 - Nov 11 by Dyland |
They'll be fine.
"Fine" in their case meaning mid table in the Champ, which contrary to the expectations of some of their confused fanbase, is about right. Arf. |
You look at the table and, to my eye, it's them, Oxford & Pompey fighting over two relegation spots. Sheffield United have more than the three of them combined to get out of trouble, albeit they've already played their managerial change card.
I really don't think Norwich will be 'fine'. It's gonna be a horrible season and they desperately need investment in Jan, and the right manager to make it work. It's not by any means a no brainer they stay up. |  | | |
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