| The Death of NATO 09:18 - Nov 22 with 4732 views | Churchman |
In the surrender document, point 4 states:
A dialogue will be held between Russia and NATO, mediated by the United States, to resolve all security issues and create conditions for de-escalation in order to ensure global security and increase opportunities for cooperation and future economic development.
The key five words are ‘mediated by the United States’. Well, if the US are now mediating a dialogue, they are no longer part of NATO. It doesn’t exist. It’s finished. Dead. Do Europe’s leaders realise it or care? They look a sorry lot to me that spend most of their Trump time saying ‘eat him, not me’. Should there be any surprise as to how this is playing out? No.
The ‘negotiations’? Russia wants a free hand in the Balkans, the Baltics ceded, Poland, old enemy Finland and possibly even Sweden. I’d go further after swallowing Ukraine, which it will. I’d insist the rest of Europe be demilitarised (shouldn’t take long with the U.K.) with protection supplied by Russia for a fee. Their sphere of influence. That would allow US a free hand to carve up the far east with China.
It’s interesting that the US is still playing the stop the killing card as its justification (like it’s given a hoot about killing anywhere else in the world from Africa to its own adventures in Afghanistan). The real reason is that Russia is beginning to struggle economically and has lost most of its military hardware. Wars are won by economics, ultimately.
The US cannot allow that. As a fellow authoritarian country Trump’s plan is a simple world three way carve up where the US gets its slice. The biggest. Trump’s mate Vlad has to therefore win not least because an over weak Russia means a stronger China.
Just somewhat naive thoughts.
What isn’t is a few basic principles I’ve known all my life. If you give in to bullies and blackmailers, they’ll always come back for more. Give me one example where they haven’t.
Freedom as we know it is hard won and easily lost. It costs too. Lastly, you have to rely first and foremost on yourself. Excruciatingly offering a dinner with King Charles with a silly little bit of paper isn’t going to cut it Sir Kier.
You and more particularly your predecessors should have seen this years ago (Crimea theft). Defence, internal and external, is a primary duty of government. They’ll talk about it and look worried but they’re not interested and in any case it’s all too late now I’m afraid. How about another review? [Post edited 22 Nov 2025 9:20]
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| The Death of NATO on 13:27 - Nov 28 with 227 views | billlm |
| The Death of NATO on 16:57 - Nov 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'm glad someone's finally answered me! Yep, I agree. This deal looks likes a last desperate attempt from an otherwise busted flush. Russia has been hugely weakened, against a tiny foe in comparison. There's no way Ukraine, or any country in Europe, should accept this deal. |
Apart from nuclear Russia has been severely weakened, Europe know this, a pity that idiot trump can't,
I agree Ukraine should not accept and back down but push on and weaken Russia even more long term damage, military, economy, status in the world and most importantly the next generation realizing there not that good, |  | | |
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