| Overseas Employees 18:21 - Nov 27 with 730 views | Pendejo |
I work for a profitable company, but we're a wholly owned subsidiary of another company that isn't. Our MD made a policy decision, after COVID, that all staff will work from the office.
However
Our parent company have decided to out source work to a service company. There used to be one of these based in Ipswich after the AXA takeover of GRE, called, I think 3R (Rob, Robin & Roger IIRC)
But this service company is based in South Africa, minimum wage 1/3 of here & almost zero employee rights.
I had a vacancy to fill, which was filled, whilst I was on holiday, by someone based in SA. Under parent company orders.
The first person lasted a day, whilst I was on holiday!
The 2nd about 3 weeks, she was sacked after taking 1 day sick, she was quite a promising prospect, listened, took notes, asked sensible questions etc.
(isn't Teams a wonderful tool? Especially the "share" & "take over" functions, controlling someone's PC so many thousand miles away was fun.)
Her replacement is not as good as her.
I understand why a company that is loss making seeks to cut costs, as we are a paperless office the job can be undertaken anywhere in the world, and where better than an English speaking country in the same time zone.
But the lack of employment rights doesn't sit easy with me. |  |
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| Overseas Employees on 19:54 - Nov 27 with 605 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Tough one this. I think if said individual carrys out tasks for you/your team (either exclusively or mostly) you should push to have final say on if they get fired. Doesnt solve your ethical dilemma but at least gives you some control.
Whats the job market like in your sector? Is it likely to be a similar situation in other companies that you would look to move to? Maybe I'm jumping the gun and bit there?
We outsource some stuff to India and Romania, employment rights in the latter seem very good. India I'm less sure about but our people there are well looked after. I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be in your situation but you need to consider coumd it be frying pan to fire? Is it the right time for you to move? Are there any other reasons for moving or are you otherwise happy? Is there anything you can do to push for a change in policy or approach? |  |
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| Overseas Employees on 20:57 - Nov 27 with 543 views | Pendejo |
| Overseas Employees on 19:54 - Nov 27 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Tough one this. I think if said individual carrys out tasks for you/your team (either exclusively or mostly) you should push to have final say on if they get fired. Doesnt solve your ethical dilemma but at least gives you some control.
Whats the job market like in your sector? Is it likely to be a similar situation in other companies that you would look to move to? Maybe I'm jumping the gun and bit there?
We outsource some stuff to India and Romania, employment rights in the latter seem very good. India I'm less sure about but our people there are well looked after. I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be in your situation but you need to consider coumd it be frying pan to fire? Is it the right time for you to move? Are there any other reasons for moving or are you otherwise happy? Is there anything you can do to push for a change in policy or approach? |
Off the back of this I have applied for another job, albeit a career change, though a role for which I have ample experience.
If I had more say in the situation I'd be happier, definitely.
In 3 years time I can draw a final salary pension (nothing spectacular as only did 13 of the qualifying 40 years) & once my uncle, for whom I care, & father have passed away I will retire to Colombia and live under warm tropical sunshine.
As for sector I work in, we seem to be going through a period where people last a week (UK based employees) our office sits just outside Greater London, and many jobs pay more, give greater benefits & promotion prospects - we are a small company under 100 employees, almost half are my indirect responsibility (I manage their managers). | |
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| Overseas Employees on 11:43 - Nov 28 with 330 views | mellowblue |
It could be the cost of living in S.A is lower than ours and the low minimum wage reflects that and the lack of workers rights the norm and not expected. Could be that the jobs are highly sought after in a country with a large underclass ? Comparing Africa to a European country with higher development over a long period of time is maybe fruitless. Personally I would not lose sleep over it myself. After all we have only had the minmum wage ourselves for 15 years or so. |  | | |
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