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'Yoav Gallant, Israel’s defence minister, who was cited by the court president for calling Palestinians “human animals” at the start of the Israeli offensive, said: The international court of justice went above and beyond, when it granted South Africa’s antisemitic request to discuss the claim of genocide in Gaza, and now refuses to reject the petition outright. Itamar Ben-Gvir, Israel’s far-right national security minister, tweeted: This court does not seek justice, but rather the persecution of the Jewish people. Decisions that endanger the continued existence of the state of Israel must not be listened to. And we must continue defeating the enemy until complete victory.'
Scary!
Edit....Our 'leaders' who gave unconditional backing from day one should read this and weep.
'The ruling is devastating for Israel and awkward for politicians such as the US secretary of state, Antony Blinken, who said the case was meritless, and the UK foreign secretary, David Cameron, who urged South Africa not to bandy around words such as genocide.
The highest court in the world, the apex of the United Nations, has found there is a plausible risk that Palestinians’ right to be protected from a genocide are under threat from Israel’s actions. The irony of this is self-evident. The concepts of “crimes against humanity” and “genocide” were created by a Jewish law professor, Raphael Lemkin.
For Israel, a nation in part born in 1948 from the horrors of the Holocaust and centuries of persecution, this could be a moment for reflection. Its whole national identity is intertwined with the Holocaust, just as South’s Africa’s is indivisible from apartheid.
There will be many in Israel who dismiss the ruling as another sign of the antisemitic nature of the UN, an organisation it has loathed for decades.'
[Post edited 26 Jan 2024 18:58]
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
To regard the case or the the court as antisemitic doesn't seem justified given precedent in the form of Myanmar and Russia, and the fact that there were judges from France, Germany, the US, Japan, Slovakia and Australia. Indeed, even the Israeli judge voted for the following two measures.
1. Requiring Israel to do everything “within its power to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide in relation to members of the Palestinian group in the Gaza Strip,”.
2. Ordering “immediate and effective measures to enable the provision of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance to address the adverse conditions of life faced by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.”
And given that Israel has accepted the jurisdiction of the ICJ, it will presumably have to comply with the requirement to submit a report to the court on the steps it has taken to comply with the orders within one month of the ruling, and can't just brush things aside.
EDIT: And whatever you call what's going in on in Gaza, it's clearly appalling and barbaric.
[Post edited 26 Jan 2024 21:25]
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The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 21:20 - Jan 26 with 4348 views
The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 21:06 - Jan 26 by DJR
To regard the case or the the court as antisemitic doesn't seem justified given precedent in the form of Myanmar and Russia, and the fact that there were judges from France, Germany, the US, Japan, Slovakia and Australia. Indeed, even the Israeli judge voted for the following two measures.
1. Requiring Israel to do everything “within its power to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide in relation to members of the Palestinian group in the Gaza Strip,”.
2. Ordering “immediate and effective measures to enable the provision of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance to address the adverse conditions of life faced by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.”
And given that Israel has accepted the jurisdiction of the ICJ, it will presumably have to comply with the requirement to submit a report to the court on the steps it has taken to comply with the orders within one month of the ruling, and can't just brush things aside.
EDIT: And whatever you call what's going in on in Gaza, it's clearly appalling and barbaric.
[Post edited 26 Jan 2024 21:25]
All well and good but Yoav Gallant is Jewish and speaking as such we are not at liberty to dismiss the claims of the oppressed over his oppressor.....thems the rules DJR, please try to keep up.
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 12:27 - Jan 27 by redrickstuhaart
Its happened on this very forum. More than once. Its the immediate defence mechansim.
It’s never once happened on here. Criticise Israel all you want. The Israeli state deserves criticism. It’s indiscriminate bombing. A war crime in turning off electricity and water as collective punishment. Illegal settlements. Having literal terrorist sympathisers and extreme religious racists in their cabinet. Refusing to engage in a process for a two state solution. The list goes on.
So criticise an Israel. I just did above. Just don’t fall back on antisemitic tropes when doing so.
The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 12:45 - Jan 27 by GlasgowBlue
It’s never once happened on here. Criticise Israel all you want. The Israeli state deserves criticism. It’s indiscriminate bombing. A war crime in turning off electricity and water as collective punishment. Illegal settlements. Having literal terrorist sympathisers and extreme religious racists in their cabinet. Refusing to engage in a process for a two state solution. The list goes on.
So criticise an Israel. I just did above. Just don’t fall back on antisemitic tropes when doing so.
Ha. I got a downvote for criticising Israel for illegal settlements, war crimes, indiscriminate bombing, having terrorist sympathisers and ultra religious zealots in their cabinet. I also said that people should criticise Israel as much as they want but nott to fallback on antisemitic tropes whilst doing so.
The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 13:05 - Jan 27 by GlasgowBlue
Ha. I got a downvote for criticising Israel for illegal settlements, war crimes, indiscriminate bombing, having terrorist sympathisers and ultra religious zealots in their cabinet. I also said that people should criticise Israel as much as they want but nott to fallback on antisemitic tropes whilst doing so.
How odd.
Perhaps leave this til after the footballs finished mate?
The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 13:05 - Jan 27 by GlasgowBlue
Ha. I got a downvote for criticising Israel for illegal settlements, war crimes, indiscriminate bombing, having terrorist sympathisers and ultra religious zealots in their cabinet. I also said that people should criticise Israel as much as they want but nott to fallback on antisemitic tropes whilst doing so.
How odd.
The downvote is for saying it has never happened on here....get your archivist on to it!!
Edit....also, surprised you have nothing to say about the Israeli government using this smeary tactic!
[Post edited 27 Jan 2024 13:31]
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 21:06 - Jan 26 by DJR
To regard the case or the the court as antisemitic doesn't seem justified given precedent in the form of Myanmar and Russia, and the fact that there were judges from France, Germany, the US, Japan, Slovakia and Australia. Indeed, even the Israeli judge voted for the following two measures.
1. Requiring Israel to do everything “within its power to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide in relation to members of the Palestinian group in the Gaza Strip,”.
2. Ordering “immediate and effective measures to enable the provision of urgently needed basic services and humanitarian assistance to address the adverse conditions of life faced by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.”
And given that Israel has accepted the jurisdiction of the ICJ, it will presumably have to comply with the requirement to submit a report to the court on the steps it has taken to comply with the orders within one month of the ruling, and can't just brush things aside.
EDIT: And whatever you call what's going in on in Gaza, it's clearly appalling and barbaric.
[Post edited 26 Jan 2024 21:25]
Given the first measure the Israeli judge voted for, interesting to note its apparent disregard.
These from an Israeli human rights lawyer.
[Post edited 29 Jan 2024 8:06]
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The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 08:07 - Jan 29 with 3711 views
The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 08:03 - Jan 29 by DJR
Given the first measure the Israeli judge voted for, interesting to note its apparent disregard.
These from an Israeli human rights lawyer.
[Post edited 29 Jan 2024 8:06]
Usual MO from Israel, deflect and carry on regardless....just started a separate thread on this which includes this quote....
'We need to find a legal way to voluntarily emigrate [Palestinians],' said Israel's far-right national security minister, before a Likud lawmaker explained that in war, 'voluntary is a state you impose [on someone] until they give their consent...."
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 08:07 - Jan 29 by BanksterDebtSlave
Usual MO from Israel, deflect and carry on regardless....just started a separate thread on this which includes this quote....
'We need to find a legal way to voluntarily emigrate [Palestinians],' said Israel's far-right national security minister, before a Likud lawmaker explained that in war, 'voluntary is a state you impose [on someone] until they give their consent...."
We must have both been formulating our posts at the same time, but I thought it important to put it in the context of the ICJ judgment.
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The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 18:49 - Jan 29 with 3004 views
The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 18:49 - Jan 29 by jaykay
i remember someone saying your mask is slipping. not sure if that was a vague accusation of being anti-Semite
There have been multiple examples Jaykay but some of us are less inclined to cry to admin....mind you it has worked hasn't it when you think of the demise of Noggin, Koonters and others.
But anyway, back on topic. Ch 4 news report on Nethanyahoo's right wing chums plans for Gaza, that we and America continue to arm, is well worth a look (still to come on plus one and 20 minutes in) but perhaps not if you are a baton carrier for their tactics of destraction!
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
The International Court of Justice are antisemites!! on 19:30 - Jan 29 by BanksterDebtSlave
There have been multiple examples Jaykay but some of us are less inclined to cry to admin....mind you it has worked hasn't it when you think of the demise of Noggin, Koonters and others.
But anyway, back on topic. Ch 4 news report on Nethanyahoo's right wing chums plans for Gaza, that we and America continue to arm, is well worth a look (still to come on plus one and 20 minutes in) but perhaps not if you are a baton carrier for their tactics of destraction!
Spot on Banksy, this repeated crying to admin whenever someone posts something they don't agree with, even when it's completely accurate is really sad/pathetic. But it's been effective in silencing and ( in many cases banning) 'dissenting' voices as you point out. It's a very sad way to live in my opinion. Expect abuse reported note and flashing red box any second now...
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