| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 22:00 - Mar 12 with 1004 views | unstableblue |
… I strongly believe and hope that when the Ukraine invasion/situation gets to some conclusion then the world will fully turn its attention to Yemen and retrospectively start to punish the Saudi regime. And also start considering the many other hideous aspects to its behaviour - such as the executions.
And at that point Newcastle’s ownership will surely be penalised in the same way as Abramovich.
I should add I am not a fan of those who tweet ‘what about Yemen?!’ ‘Why didn’t anyone care about the Iraqi populous?’, ‘what about NATO expansionism’ in response to news of Ukraine, whilst those are valid concerns… Ukraine is a very very different and awful escalation of world destabilisation and it is right to focus on it and be outraged… this is a 150,000 troop land assault of a sovereign and democratic country by a nuclear dictator who is successfully brainwashing the majority of his people, and is currently doing it with impunity |  |
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| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 22:23 - Mar 12 with 948 views | jeera |
| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 22:00 - Mar 12 by unstableblue |
… I strongly believe and hope that when the Ukraine invasion/situation gets to some conclusion then the world will fully turn its attention to Yemen and retrospectively start to punish the Saudi regime. And also start considering the many other hideous aspects to its behaviour - such as the executions.
And at that point Newcastle’s ownership will surely be penalised in the same way as Abramovich.
I should add I am not a fan of those who tweet ‘what about Yemen?!’ ‘Why didn’t anyone care about the Iraqi populous?’, ‘what about NATO expansionism’ in response to news of Ukraine, whilst those are valid concerns… Ukraine is a very very different and awful escalation of world destabilisation and it is right to focus on it and be outraged… this is a 150,000 troop land assault of a sovereign and democratic country by a nuclear dictator who is successfully brainwashing the majority of his people, and is currently doing it with impunity |
" whilst those are valid concerns… Ukraine is a very very different and awful escalation of world destabilisation and it is right to focus on it and be outraged… this is a 150,000 troop land assault of a sovereign and democratic country by a nuclear dictator who is successfully brainwashing the majority of his people, and is currently doing it with impunity"
What a long-winded way of saying you actually don't give a sh1t that human beings have been slaughtered by the Saudis for years but want to pretend you do as an aside.
Both situations are fecking abhorrent for the same reasons. Innocent people have had their homes flattened and their families murdered by a neighbouring bullying regime.
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| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 22:35 - Mar 12 with 924 views | Illinoisblue |
| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 22:00 - Mar 12 by unstableblue |
… I strongly believe and hope that when the Ukraine invasion/situation gets to some conclusion then the world will fully turn its attention to Yemen and retrospectively start to punish the Saudi regime. And also start considering the many other hideous aspects to its behaviour - such as the executions.
And at that point Newcastle’s ownership will surely be penalised in the same way as Abramovich.
I should add I am not a fan of those who tweet ‘what about Yemen?!’ ‘Why didn’t anyone care about the Iraqi populous?’, ‘what about NATO expansionism’ in response to news of Ukraine, whilst those are valid concerns… Ukraine is a very very different and awful escalation of world destabilisation and it is right to focus on it and be outraged… this is a 150,000 troop land assault of a sovereign and democratic country by a nuclear dictator who is successfully brainwashing the majority of his people, and is currently doing it with impunity |
And let’s not turn a blind eye to Man City’s ownership and their not at all subtle financial cheating. |  |
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| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 22:58 - Mar 12 with 888 views | unstableblue |
| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 22:23 - Mar 12 by jeera |
" whilst those are valid concerns… Ukraine is a very very different and awful escalation of world destabilisation and it is right to focus on it and be outraged… this is a 150,000 troop land assault of a sovereign and democratic country by a nuclear dictator who is successfully brainwashing the majority of his people, and is currently doing it with impunity"
What a long-winded way of saying you actually don't give a sh1t that human beings have been slaughtered by the Saudis for years but want to pretend you do as an aside.
Both situations are fecking abhorrent for the same reasons. Innocent people have had their homes flattened and their families murdered by a neighbouring bullying regime.
Wtf is wrong with you? |
‘WTF us wrong with you?”
I think you’ve lost the ability to read?
“… I strongly believe and HOPE that when the Ukraine invasion/situation gets to some conclusion then the world will fully turn its ATTENTION TO YEMEN and retrospectively start to PUNISH the Saudi regime. And also start considering the many other HIDEOUS ASPECTS to its behaviour - such as the executions. “
Or shall I elaborate I went on the Stop the War march ahead of Iraq, did you? Where you at the recent Palestine solidarity protests - I was? Have you lobbied to stop Saudi trade? I have. I could go on.
The point you are completely missing is there is an element in some far left groups who negate the true Putin threat, by repeating Russian narratives... read the following and come back to me!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/02/russian-propaganda-anti-im | |
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| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 23:26 - Mar 12 with 848 views | Seablu |
| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 22:00 - Mar 12 by unstableblue |
… I strongly believe and hope that when the Ukraine invasion/situation gets to some conclusion then the world will fully turn its attention to Yemen and retrospectively start to punish the Saudi regime. And also start considering the many other hideous aspects to its behaviour - such as the executions.
And at that point Newcastle’s ownership will surely be penalised in the same way as Abramovich.
I should add I am not a fan of those who tweet ‘what about Yemen?!’ ‘Why didn’t anyone care about the Iraqi populous?’, ‘what about NATO expansionism’ in response to news of Ukraine, whilst those are valid concerns… Ukraine is a very very different and awful escalation of world destabilisation and it is right to focus on it and be outraged… this is a 150,000 troop land assault of a sovereign and democratic country by a nuclear dictator who is successfully brainwashing the majority of his people, and is currently doing it with impunity |
The only problem is, the world has already had plenty of time to turn its attention to Yemen, Palestine etc and the silence couldn’t be more deafening.
I’d say better late than never, but it’s a sad fact that certain atrocities will always get more attention because they’re just that bit closer to ‘home’ and the desperately unfortunate victims live in streets and cities that look a bit more like ours.
Earth is one great big lump of feckin’ rock and every entitled tosser who gets overly possessive about the better patch they were lucky enough to be deposited on, would do well to appreciate this. |  | | |
| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 23:46 - Mar 12 with 814 views | unstableblue |
| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 23:26 - Mar 12 by Seablu |
The only problem is, the world has already had plenty of time to turn its attention to Yemen, Palestine etc and the silence couldn’t be more deafening.
I’d say better late than never, but it’s a sad fact that certain atrocities will always get more attention because they’re just that bit closer to ‘home’ and the desperately unfortunate victims live in streets and cities that look a bit more like ours.
Earth is one great big lump of feckin’ rock and every entitled tosser who gets overly possessive about the better patch they were lucky enough to be deposited on, would do well to appreciate this. |
Many of us have been protesting and lobbying on Iraq, Yemen and Palestine for some time. For example there was an excellent Palestine protest in Colchester in May last year. With powerful speeches and relatively well attended. But as you say the majority see these conflicts as in distant land, and cannot connect to the problem, or the plight of the people. And it’s often only reported in certain outlets. My hope and one of my points is exactly that Ukraine may bring these plights to more prominence. My other points as raised by Monbiot - see article well worth reading in a below post, is people seem to reply to Ukraine reporting of suffering by saying “but what about Yemen” “or what about NATO expansionism”…. Which whilst not only missing the arc of history, dilutes the laser focus on Putin and the very significant danger this conflict poses. He’s literally written a mein kampf lite on Russian expansionism, which he made mandatory reading for his troops, he has put his nuclear command on high alert, and has conducted a 150,000 troop land invasion of a democratic country in Europe…. I could go on. And the west - whilst rightly not escalating by enforcing a no fly zone - are crippled by fear of Putin and the inaction of his atrocities over decades. | |
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| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 23:53 - Mar 12 with 793 views | Lord_Lucan |
| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 23:46 - Mar 12 by unstableblue |
Many of us have been protesting and lobbying on Iraq, Yemen and Palestine for some time. For example there was an excellent Palestine protest in Colchester in May last year. With powerful speeches and relatively well attended. But as you say the majority see these conflicts as in distant land, and cannot connect to the problem, or the plight of the people. And it’s often only reported in certain outlets. My hope and one of my points is exactly that Ukraine may bring these plights to more prominence. My other points as raised by Monbiot - see article well worth reading in a below post, is people seem to reply to Ukraine reporting of suffering by saying “but what about Yemen” “or what about NATO expansionism”…. Which whilst not only missing the arc of history, dilutes the laser focus on Putin and the very significant danger this conflict poses. He’s literally written a mein kampf lite on Russian expansionism, which he made mandatory reading for his troops, he has put his nuclear command on high alert, and has conducted a 150,000 troop land invasion of a democratic country in Europe…. I could go on. And the west - whilst rightly not escalating by enforcing a no fly zone - are crippled by fear of Putin and the inaction of his atrocities over decades. |
I know a little bit about the Yemen thing but I know more about Ukraine even though it's only been going on for weeks.
It's all a bit shameful really
I'm not saying we should point score and to be honest the Ukraine thing is more of a thing to us because it's closer and we have a potential nuclear problem.
But even so - It's a bit weird - and worrying - that we have a sort of news blackout with Yemen and the like. |  |
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| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 00:28 - Mar 13 with 761 views | unstableblue |
| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 23:53 - Mar 12 by Lord_Lucan |
I know a little bit about the Yemen thing but I know more about Ukraine even though it's only been going on for weeks.
It's all a bit shameful really
I'm not saying we should point score and to be honest the Ukraine thing is more of a thing to us because it's closer and we have a potential nuclear problem.
But even so - It's a bit weird - and worrying - that we have a sort of news blackout with Yemen and the like. |
It should never be point scoring.
Do you fully understand what happened to initiate the second Iraq war and the appalling lack of foresight and planning in the awful ramifications that the instability brought? In some weird way Saddam atrocities were more acceptable than the subsequent turmoil. Again the arc of history is a different ball game to Ukraine. Do you understand what happened in Syria? Western meddling could be argued, created huge suffering, emboldening but then not fully supporting an oppressed people again. But where Ukraine comes in around Assad was Putin, who started to flex to exhibit his strategy of obliteration, and who acted with impunity, emboldened. And the information war started in earnest. Then we have Yemen. Made worse by UK arms and support.
But there has not been a news blackout, the BBC has reported extensively on the plight of the Yemenis, perhaps with not the crystal clear denouncement of the Saudi regime.
It’s just politicians, celebrities and the public have not taken up the cause. Did not connect with horror of the plight of the affected civilians - too far away?! Lack of blanket coverage?! ‘Contained conflicts’?
But again Ukraine is not just the devastation of a people, the Ukrainians should no way have more sympathy than a Syrian, Iraqi, Yemeni… it is the geo political clusterf@ck, and energy/food supply chain collapse… it is the re invoking of the Cold War, a new arms race, hell Germany are going to start to re arm… and crucially it is a nuclear powered dictator who the west have allowed to go completely AWOL, whilst creating a totalitarian regime where Russian public dissent to the invasion is being over stated.
Putin poisons in Salisbury, murders in central London tea rooms, launches missiles and downs Dutch passenger jets on route to Asian holidays… gases Syrians, turns Aleppo into a crater… and has China and India… this is a 150,000 troop land invasion… this is a different circumstance and threat | |
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| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 00:33 - Mar 13 with 746 views | unstableblue |
| This is going to blow up in Newcastle’s face… on 00:28 - Mar 13 by unstableblue |
It should never be point scoring.
Do you fully understand what happened to initiate the second Iraq war and the appalling lack of foresight and planning in the awful ramifications that the instability brought? In some weird way Saddam atrocities were more acceptable than the subsequent turmoil. Again the arc of history is a different ball game to Ukraine. Do you understand what happened in Syria? Western meddling could be argued, created huge suffering, emboldening but then not fully supporting an oppressed people again. But where Ukraine comes in around Assad was Putin, who started to flex to exhibit his strategy of obliteration, and who acted with impunity, emboldened. And the information war started in earnest. Then we have Yemen. Made worse by UK arms and support.
But there has not been a news blackout, the BBC has reported extensively on the plight of the Yemenis, perhaps with not the crystal clear denouncement of the Saudi regime.
It’s just politicians, celebrities and the public have not taken up the cause. Did not connect with horror of the plight of the affected civilians - too far away?! Lack of blanket coverage?! ‘Contained conflicts’?
But again Ukraine is not just the devastation of a people, the Ukrainians should no way have more sympathy than a Syrian, Iraqi, Yemeni… it is the geo political clusterf@ck, and energy/food supply chain collapse… it is the re invoking of the Cold War, a new arms race, hell Germany are going to start to re arm… and crucially it is a nuclear powered dictator who the west have allowed to go completely AWOL, whilst creating a totalitarian regime where Russian public dissent to the invasion is being over stated.
Putin poisons in Salisbury, murders in central London tea rooms, launches missiles and downs Dutch passenger jets on route to Asian holidays… gases Syrians, turns Aleppo into a crater… and has China and India… this is a 150,000 troop land invasion… this is a different circumstance and threat |
And I should that Yemen’s main staple is wheat flour… and they have 20million people in starvation
World food supply chain from Ukraine conflict with exasperate
Yemen needs more food aid, as a higher priority than Ukraine | |
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