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Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry 10:58 - Jun 20 with 1389 viewsWeWereZombies

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-65954667

'If you're a minister responsible for anything for six months, you could have training for the first two months, but by the time you finish your training you've practically finished your job'

On the revolving door of ministers 'He thinks career success means you have to go through multiple jobs, something he says is a disaster.'

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Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 11:05 - Jun 20 with 1314 viewsGuthrum

Isn't that what Civil Servants used to be for - providing continuity, expertise and (heeded) advice?

Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 11:10 - Jun 20 with 1304 viewsWeWereZombies

Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 11:05 - Jun 20 by Guthrum

Isn't that what Civil Servants used to be for - providing continuity, expertise and (heeded) advice?


Exactly, Letwin is bemoaning not just the inability of political leaders to have a bit of faith in their team but the general tendency for everyone to have to keep shuffling around to seem like they are achieving some form of career progression.

I've switched the BBC website off for the moment but I will be back, after I do some necessary work around the house, to add to this thread. Like him or not Letwin is one of the more intelligent of teh Conservative politicians of recent years.

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Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 11:27 - Jun 20 with 1248 viewshomer_123

Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 11:05 - Jun 20 by Guthrum

Isn't that what Civil Servants used to be for - providing continuity, expertise and (heeded) advice?


One the changing aspects of 'work' is the desire to progress much more quickly and frequently than ever before.

And as more and more Gen Z enter the workforce, this will drive this further and ever more rapidly.

It's not unusual now to have a person expect to be promoted or move into a role after as little as 3 months in post. This is now rippling up through organisations and age bands.

Ade Akinbiyi couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo...
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Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 11:40 - Jun 20 with 1220 viewsBlueBadger

Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 11:05 - Jun 20 by Guthrum

Isn't that what Civil Servants used to be for - providing continuity, expertise and (heeded) advice?


Yes, but we voted to kiss-off experts seven years ago.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 12:56 - Jun 20 with 1079 viewsWeWereZombies

Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 11:27 - Jun 20 by homer_123

One the changing aspects of 'work' is the desire to progress much more quickly and frequently than ever before.

And as more and more Gen Z enter the workforce, this will drive this further and ever more rapidly.

It's not unusual now to have a person expect to be promoted or move into a role after as little as 3 months in post. This is now rippling up through organisations and age bands.


So, in the face of increasing Global heating, water shortages, possible new pandemics and so on , we can expect ever less capability and ever more clusterfÃÂșcks. Unless we ignore globalised and centralised organisation to focus on having responsible people in posts that matter locally accountable but whose mistakes are tolerated if they learn from them ?
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Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 13:05 - Jun 20 with 1064 viewsbaxterbasics

Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 11:27 - Jun 20 by homer_123

One the changing aspects of 'work' is the desire to progress much more quickly and frequently than ever before.

And as more and more Gen Z enter the workforce, this will drive this further and ever more rapidly.

It's not unusual now to have a person expect to be promoted or move into a role after as little as 3 months in post. This is now rippling up through organisations and age bands.


Being promoted from trainee to assistant manager after 6 months isn't unthinkable for someone working at McDonalds or Starbucks. From backbench MP to one of the offices of state, a different matter. I actually think parliament as a whole suffers from far too much churn in the modern era, even before you consider actual ministers. Part of the problem is those with any actual talent or savvy can always enjoy better money and less stress in the private sector. But arguing for higher salary for politicians is unlikely to win many over.

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Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 13:10 - Jun 20 with 1049 viewsWeWereZombies

Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 11:05 - Jun 20 by Guthrum

Isn't that what Civil Servants used to be for - providing continuity, expertise and (heeded) advice?


Quite a change of tone now that George Osborne is in the dock, Letwin's reasoned regret about how things turned out is ditched for 'It wasn't us, we did nothing wrong.'

'Blackwell says the inquiry heard from Professor Clare Bambra and Professor Sir Michael Marmot, who said austerity since 2010 was likely to be the cause of adverse changes and health inequality in the UK.

Osborne is asked if government policy had an affect on health and social care, which meant those in the worst situations were disproportionately affected when Covid hit, and that it was predictable and should've been part of government planning.

"I just completely reject that," Osborne says.'

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Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 13:34 - Jun 20 with 1015 viewsBlueBadger

Some revealing comments from Oliver Letwin during this morning's COVID inquiry on 13:10 - Jun 20 by WeWereZombies

Quite a change of tone now that George Osborne is in the dock, Letwin's reasoned regret about how things turned out is ditched for 'It wasn't us, we did nothing wrong.'

'Blackwell says the inquiry heard from Professor Clare Bambra and Professor Sir Michael Marmot, who said austerity since 2010 was likely to be the cause of adverse changes and health inequality in the UK.

Osborne is asked if government policy had an affect on health and social care, which meant those in the worst situations were disproportionately affected when Covid hit, and that it was predictable and should've been part of government planning.

"I just completely reject that," Osborne says.'


Whilst the currently lot are openly unapologetic bigots and sociopaths who don't care who they hurt as their mates are OK, Cameron's crew were cowardly bigots and sociopaths who didn't care who they hurt as long as their mates were OK.

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